Hey can someone tell me if bitmetv is down when I go to the site to login it says something like server maintenence. I was wondering if this is happening to anybody else.
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Hey can someone tell me if bitmetv is down when I go to the site to login it says something like server maintenence. I was wondering if this is happening to anybody else.
Confirmed.
"Server Maintenance! Server Maintenance! Server Maintenance!
Please try back in a couple minutes."
thanks for the quick response
its back up now
its down again
Confirmed
hope theyre not come back again.. im sick of all of its staffs, theyre idiots
from the index:
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We do apologise for the tracker Lag and speeds, Options are being looked at. We apologise for any downtime this may cause. Please bear with us.
//BitMeTV.org Staff
And they're being asses as usual:
Three months ago, they had 24,500 members. Now they have 24,300 members. How many people do they think they're fooling?Quote:
Originally Posted by tequilavip
We should start a pool to donate money in exchange for some of the stupider mods to step down (starting with this guy). Should work if we can get enough regular donors on board. :dry:
I don't see why it's so hard for people to simply not use a tracker, if they dislike the admins, mods, or the way the site is run. it's very simple.
It's probably because of member churn over the years. Now they have more active users.
Still, the site dies during peak usage. This hasn't improved in a long time.
When your government passes a law you don't like, do you move to another country?Quote:
Originally Posted by lysine
I think several of the mods on that site are idiots, I don't see how that's incompatible with enjoying the torrents I download there.
Hmm, the site is timing out for me.
it is deffinently slow 4 me 2nite but it is working
This was a very unfortunate exampleQuote:
Originally Posted by Hedonist7When your government passes a law you don't like, do you move to another country?Quote:
Originally Posted by lysine
Can't access to the site, and getting a connection error from tracker...
anyone else?
BitmeTv is down again!
For a second I thought I was banned...Quote:
The connection has timed out
I thought same when I saw this : "Connection Error (ConnectException:Connection Refused)"Quote:
Originally Posted by aburyach
When a tracker dies from too many peers, there's no real warning. It goes from "working fine" to "not working" immediately. It seems to have to do with table locks in MySQL for the most part. So, as someone who's been in the same position as the bitmetv staff are now, I'd say maybe you should cut them a break. It's not easy to keep a site up 24/7.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hedonist7
it's up...
its work again now
bitmetv alive again :D
Hmm, two people have complained about it; that probably did come out harsher than I intended. I never did like this particular mod, however (if you can't already tell). The other admins posting have been civil and apologetic about the site delays and downtime. This guy is making up excuses and being sarcastic. Unfortunately, it makes the whole staff look bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by TooMuchTimeWhen a tracker dies from too many peers, there's no real warning. It goes from "working fine" to "not working" immediately. It seems to have to do with table locks in MySQL for the most part. So, as someone who's been in the same position as the bitmetv staff are now, I'd say maybe you should cut them a break. It's not easy to keep a site up 24/7.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hedonist7
yeh it's up
that's a horrible comparison and doesn't work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hedonist7
an appropriate example would be something like this. you shop at a store and are treated rudely by the employees. you dislike the way the employees are treating you, so you complain to management. management doesn't do anything about it.
do you continue shopping at that store? no, you take your business elsewhere. there's more than one store that you can shop at.
Fine, let's use your example. There's more ways to affect change than simply complaining the management and then taking your business elsewhere. You can make them look bad in public forums, for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by lysinethat's a horrible comparison and doesn't work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hedonist7
an appropriate example would be something like this. you shop at a store and are treated rudely by the employees. you dislike the way the employees are treating you, so you complain to management. management doesn't do anything about it.
do you continue shopping at that store? no, you take your business elsewhere. there's more than one store that you can shop at.
Edit: Furthermore, I would argue the latter method is far more effective. Who's going to notice 1, or even 100 members leaving a tracker of 25,000? Dozens of people, however, have viewed these posts, and many hundreds more have the capability. To say you should simply leave the tracker is a way of shutting down uncomfortable discussions. After all, do you think that most trackers delete all critical posts simply because they don't like criticism? Of course not, they don't want the ideas spreading. My way spreads knowlege that can be used as a foundation for change.
why do stores change management? mainly because of complaints to corporate headquarters or a loss of profit. how many complaints have you made to the administrators at bitmetv about your issues?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hedonist7
if the people at corporate headquarters (the administrators) don't listen to the complaints, then you have another other option. you can choose to stop doing business at that store. eventually, if enough people stop doing business at the store, it will either close, or clear out the management and replace them with new managers.
that really works, huh? despite all the bitching I see about tvip all over forums (99% of the time, I think he comes off as an asshole too), do you see a mass exodus of users from the site? obviously the admins there read his posts and have no problem with him.Quote:
There's more ways to affect change than simply taking your business elsewhere. Making them look bad in public forums, for example.
making someone look bad in public is not an effective means of change. wal-mart has been shamed for their past hiring practices, making employees work overtime without paying for overtime, and a number of other ethical and moral problems they have. yet it's still the world's number one retailer. most people are willing to look the other way if they're getting a product they want at the price they want.
all I see is bitching, with no offering of other solutions, there is absolutely no knowledge being spread in these posts that bitch about things. there are other television trackers out there, why not offer them as an alternative? start contributing at one of those, and encourage everyone else that has a problem to do the same.Quote:
My way spreads knowlege that can be used as a foundation for change.
Firstly, there is a personal embarassment factor. Perhaps it doesn't bother tvip to see his name dragged through the mud all over the torrent scene, but it may make the next asshole mod think twice.
Secondly, take it from someone who has seen actual exoduses (FTN's split from ScT for example): it begins with users complaining about staff. Next, uploaders start getting pissed off (and this second stage has been reached at bitmetv, by the way). Finally other staff get pissed off, and use their far more considerable weight in the torrent community to affect change. It's a process, and I'm sorry it appears to you as just "bitching" unless either tvip or I leave immediately, but the real world doesn't work like that.
Edit:
I'll let the utter ridiculousness of this quote stand on it's own merit (or lack thereof). Are you seriously unaware of a single instance of a company being publicly shamed into corrective action?Quote:
Originally Posted by lysine
site has been hit hard lately, getting timeout to tracker all the time.
tvip is quite nice once you get to know him :P
(although he wouldn't want anyone knowing that, lol)
Part of the reason BitMeTV gets hit so hard is that many users wait for shows to be uploaded. In order to get on the torrents early they keep refreshing the torrent pages a few times a minute.
Lots of users use RSS and that really is the best method for getting regular shows.
Yea more people should use RSS, although it's a huge pain to set up at most private trackers. And then if your filter's even a little off, you can really screw your ratio
I think putting an announce bot in the IRC channel with direct links to the torrents would be helpful.
With all the problems this site is having, is it still the premier private torrent site for tv? It's sooo hard to get invites...if it's not a well moderated site, do you think it's worth the effort?
it's a HEAVILY-Moderated site, not a "not-well-moderated site". dealing with the sheer number of members they have is probably the reason one or some of the staff come across as rude. As for tequilavip, he'll openly admit he's an asshole -if you deserve it. About that post of his about "culling" the membership levels, I think it was more of a joke than seriously intended(Members there may recall last year's site-wide april-fools joke about cutting 10,000 accounts via a random lottery to reduce the load on their server) , and the site slowdowns were always occuring in the hour or two when shows like "lost", "prison break" and "24" were being uploaded, so there was at least one valid point there about the source of the server-overload.
Anyway, whatever they did, the site is up & running fine for the last week or so
Dam, they changed this in their latest rules revision a few days ago, but for the past 6 months I've been a member, the Request section rules stated something to this affect:Quote:
Originally Posted by djkamikaze
So even though it's possible to disable someone's access to the request section, Bitmetv's stated policy was to treat people who made two bad requests like cheaters. I generally hold (held) the above statement up as an example of the quality of moderating you can expect at bitmetv. It's not just a heavily-moderated site, it's a terribly-moderated site.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bitmetv Rules
Sorry, couldn't resist emphasizing this gem to lysine, and anyone else who just take threads like this to be ineffective bitching:
Tbh, I have yet to see many fruits of this labor, but at least he's acknowleging it's having some effect.Quote:
Originally Posted by tequilavip
Ahh he is a good guy and works very hard on the forums. It gets difficult though, after a while when you get a lot of cheaters and abusive members. He has coped quite well considering the volume of posts. If you had to mod bmtv for 6 months, I doubt you would still be sane. :lol: oh and yes, the site is running rather nicely now, don't you think :) Prepare for it running even better soon. ;)
ah ibslice. If you weren't defending tvip, I'd swear you were an imposter. This is the real Ibslice:
In response to someone asking when RSS will be back up. Guy got a warning too. I mean really, how dare he ask such a thing? Doesn't he know Ibslice is far too busy bragging about site updates "coming soon" all over the internet? And don't these stupid users know bitmetv measures time differently than everyone else? It doesn't just apply to seeding, features that were disabled in October have been "coming soon" for the past 6 months.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibslice
I guess they disable people so quickly there, they're surprised anyone still remembers promises made so long ago.