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Dreamweaver or Notepad
I am starting on a couple of web sites.
After much research on this site it seems to me a 50/50 split on wether Dreamweaver is best or using a text editor such as Notepad !
Could some of you who use or recommend Dreamweaver point out some things I could do in Dreamweaver that I could not do in Notepad and Vice versa.
Regards
Digby
NZ
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just use dreamweaver. notepad is cool for making small changes to documents but the syntax highlighting alone in dreamweaver should make it the tool of choice of these 2 at least.
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Notepad: you can't see your changes reflected immediately.
Dreamweaver: you can.
Dreamweaver knows syntax and tags n' stuff and it helps with auto complete, and helps when you're looking for something you don't quite remember the name of.
Notepad: Google or bust.
All-in-all: both. Dreamweaver can be handy, but it's not necessarily a complete replacement to the beauty and simplicity of notepad.
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4play
just use dreamweaver. notepad is cool for making small changes to documents but the syntax highlighting alone in dreamweaver should make it the tool of choice of these 2 at least.
Programmer's notepad ftw.
http://www.pnotepad.org/
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I actually use both. :smilie4:
Dreamweaver for page design and layout, and then notepad for small tweaks and changes, and the javascript, vbscript, etc.
@SnnY - That looks cool, I might try that out :)
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I agree with Barbarossa...
Dreamweaver or another WYSIWYG suite for design and layout and a serious text editor for small changes or coding (eg PHP)
For text editing i personally use UltraEdit (sFTP support a big plus for me)
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Dreamweaver will do anything. Hadn't you heard?
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text pad is good
if you are new to it use dreamweaver as you can draw stuff on the page and it will genreate the html for you
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rossco
notepad2 :happy:
Agreed. Notepad2 is a great and small program. I even replaced windows notepad with this one. ;)
Notepad++ is also another good text editor. I use both.
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if you are new to it use dreamweaver as you can draw stuff on the page and it will genreate the html for you
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1. bluementals webuilder
2. notepad++
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a alternative to Dreamweaver : http://www.nvu.com/index.php (freeware)
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if you're on a mac. Use textmate. it is a very powerfull text editor.. I beleive i saw a program very similar to it that is being developed for windows but forget the name.
watch the screencast for html on the devs site and you'll see just how powerful the app really is.
i think the site is macromates.com
i dislike wysiwyg editors in general, and although dreamweaver has good code editing capabilities they pale in comparison to what a program like textmate can do. As long as you have a good solid understanding of what your doing I believe an enhanced text editor would be your best option.
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dreamweaver is good but if u want a more basic text editor then just use something like notepad++ or xint or any one that does syntax hiliting! i dont use most of the features of dreamweaver i just like the color coding and autocomplete for when i forget things!
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AEDix Suite Text Editor
http://software.kirys.it/
It's free and easy for noobs, like me, to use ...
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It all depends on what you want to do. Do you want to get a site up easily and efficiently? Use Dreamweaver. Do you want to learn how to code, which will come in handy if you move onto programming? Then use notepad or a similar text editor (I use PSPad).
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Notepad++
It's great because of the syntax highlighting. Dreamweaver and other programs like it are for the noobs. :rolleyes:
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Notepad++ because is simple and transparent.
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I prefer PHP Expert Editor. : P
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I go with Dreamweaver too, especially for the lines thingy, it's helpfull while debugging.
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dreamweaver. it has a code editor too so there's nothing too loose using it.
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Started w/ dreamweaver, but got sick of it. I have tried several text editors, but hav stuck with subpad. It's a single exe so it's completely portable. I can edit my site from anywhere (which is crucial when you have a news section).
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Dreamweaver will do anything. Hadn't you heard?
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Crimson editor: Features tabbed interface, html, php, c, python syntax highlighting, code output window, and built in FTP! Highly recommended!!
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HI Guys
Thanks for all the help.
It seems to be split 50/50.
Quick and easy Dreamweaver - more advanced Notepad.
With many of you liking other text editors.
Regards
Digby
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It's a matter of oppinion but i prefer dreamweaver hands down.
It is more functional, quicker to use, more powerful and makes the whole process of webdesign much easier.
I must be said though that the simplicity of notepad is in some cases useful.
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Originally Posted by
RTFM
It all depends on what you want to do. Do you want to get a site up easily and efficiently? Use Dreamweaver. Do you want to learn how to code, which will come in handy if you move onto programming? Then use notepad or a similar text editor (I use PSPad).
I haven't heard of Dreamweaver doing your PHP code for you.
Besides, it's fully possible to just use Dreamweaver for its source code formatting, the HTML cleanup (good when you are editing someone elses work), the syntax highlighting, the ability to have PHP Manual incorporated into the Right Click menu, that it displays the argument order of PHP functions when you open the parenthesis, etc...
One does not HAVE to rely on the WYSIWYG.
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I use and prefer Dreamweaver as it is convenient and user friendly. I laso have people do work for me and find that they have preference for Dreamweaver :).
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Originally Posted by
rossco
notepad2 :happy:
Another vote for Notepad2!
I am actually very choosy, depending on what I want to do:
Photoshop - Design
Imageready - Convert to HTML
Dreamweaver - Beautify & CSSifiy HTML
Frontpage 2003:cry::cry: - For when you have to work with Tables, its the best
Notepad2 - Tweaks, fixes and all the rest
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Notepad because you can't see your changes immediatly!!!
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Dreamweaver, because you can choose either code or style view. So why would you need notepad?!
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I'm sure your opinions will be very helpful to him, it's only eight months or so since he posted, like.
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Snee
I'm sure your opinions will be very helpful to him, it's only eight months or so since he posted, like.
Maybe he's a slow learner :P
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For other people that might be viewing this with similar questions :
Just don't do DreamWeaver, it's not worth it, no WYSIWYG is, in fact if you do it you're basically the same as all the other people who don't know HTML/CSS/PHP/JS/Ajax/Whatever AT ALL. These programs to 'make life easier' for web designer's are the same ones that are putting us out of business. I COULD be a web designer and get paid upwards of 200bucks a PAGE, or they could pay someone who never had to learn shit, and only pick up a program that's easy to use 10bucks to do it. Which do you think will happen? Now I could lower my price to 10 bucks, but that's below standards, the point is, someone with no previous experience can do it, which is sad because HTML takes abuot an hour to learn. ~_~;
Notepad or another text editor is what the pros use.
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Pyrofyr
For other people that might be viewing this with similar questions :
Just don't do DreamWeaver, it's not worth it, no WYSIWYG is, in fact if you do it you're basically the same as all the other people who don't know HTML/CSS/PHP/JS/Ajax/Whatever AT ALL. These programs to 'make life easier' for web designer's are the same ones that are putting us out of business. I COULD be a web designer and get paid upwards of 200bucks a PAGE, or they could pay someone who never had to learn shit, and only pick up a program that's easy to use 10bucks to do it. Which do you think will happen? Now I could lower my price to 10 bucks, but that's below standards, the point is, someone with no previous experience can do it, which is sad because HTML takes abuot an hour to learn. ~_~;
Notepad or another text editor is what the pros use.
Yeah, excellent argument that :mellow:
"Anyone can make a good-looking website with dreamweaver, so you shouldn't use it" :blink:
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Now, a good argument against it might be that while it makes creating a site easier, it can make the code behind it look all screwy (assuming you rely on the designer mode), especially if you don't actually know what you are doing, which is why you ought to learn how to do things properly in code, before you start messing about with dragging and dropping, so you at least can sort out whatever mess gets put into the code.
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Editpad Pro, definately! Best of both worlds ;)