I Can't Believe How Much Ps2 Owners Are In Denial

I realized my mistake and returned it immediatly when I saw the graohics weren't anything special. But it is unbelievable the escuses PS2 owners will make to try to make themselves think they made the right chose.
here's a few:
"It has more games" (Right and I'm sure you own and play all of them)
"Xbox is just an OK PC" (And that must make the PS2 a shitty PC)
"The games play better on the PS2" (I never new poorer graphics power all around made for a better system)

Feel free to add as many more lame escuses these people in denial make.
And I'm not bias towards the Xbox, I will buy the best system out there, no matter what the brand is

I have ps2 and i want to say something about :

1. Has more games but ps1 crappy games .
2.About the graphic ,if you see Metal Gear solid 2 you don't believe .
3.Microsoft x-box has a crappy look.
4.Sony feautured console http://ie.playstation.com/news/newsStory.j...WS&linktype=NTI
5.Everyone is free to thinking . :D :D

Andd it amazes me how little the naysayers pay attention to console release dates...

I own a PS2 and I like it, the graphics aren't the best but after what I see on my pc, it looks good.

sometimes I wish I bought a gamecube for more original game idea's and I dont even give the xbox a thought

the summary is the xbox just takes every game it can find on other platforms and the only appeal is slightly better graphics, the gamecube has it's own unique games so although there are less games there's more variety. People just buy PS2's because it's in the middle ground

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Originally posted by sharedholder@4 June 2003 - 06:58
I have ps2 and i want to say something about :

4.Sony feautured console http://ie.playstation.com/news/newsStory.j...WS&linktype=NTI

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I guess we should compare it to the Xbox 10

There is nothing wrong with ps2. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean that it is rubbish. If you get enjoyment out of playing a console then it doesn't matter if the graphics aren't state of the art. Its just a matter of opinion.

look at it this way - if the X-box was released a year before the PS2 and Microsoft had distributed development kits quicker and wider, everyone would have an X-box

if Gamecube had come out at the same time as PS2 everyone would have a Gamecube

i think X-box owners are in denial that PS2 is the more popular console

but i will admit that PS2 is kinda crappy in terms of power, but it is competitive graphics wise, at the moment anyway...

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Originally posted by DarthInsinuate@4 June 2003 - 02:56
look at it this way - if the X-box was released a year before the PS2 and Microsoft had distributed development kits quicker and wider, everyone would have an X-box

if Gamecube had come out at the same time as PS2 everyone would have a Gamecube

i think X-box owners are in denial that PS2 is the more popular console

but i will admit that PS2 is kinda crappy in terms of power, but it is competitive graphics wise, at the moment anyway...

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i wouldn't have bought a X - Box i dont like them cuz its Bill Gates way for last chance and trying to be big in other stuff besides PC and i for one hate Bill Gates. i chose the PS2 cuz of prefrence and becuz of the direction that GC and nintendo was going with targeting it towards younger children and PS2 seemed to just fit. dont try and speak for "everyone" cuz ur not "everyone"

i wouldnt not buy a console just because its made my Bill Gates' comapany.
hes a prick with too much money but who cares?
halo is a classic,
but PS2 is clearly far superior to X-Box.
btw i dont own either, i havnt bought one since PSX1, couldnt be arsed i suppose

I personaly own game cube ps2 and xbox. I personaly like xbox more for the graphics. However the only time I turn on the ps2 is when my company (friends) wana play old crapy games that are ps1.. Other then that. When I got to the store and see that a game comes in both ps2 and xbox. I buy the xbox. I will only buy a game cube game when I must also. Like the new Zelda. Or games of that sort. Yes yes ps2 has many more games. But who wants to play all those olds games?? I sure dont.... Maybe my little my kids might in few years... Also the loading part of the games. I have to say xbox is faster. I have timed them.

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Originally posted by DarthInsinuate@4 June 2003 - 10:56
look at it this way - if the X-box was released a year before the PS2 and Microsoft had distributed development kits quicker and wider, everyone would have an X-box

if Gamecube had come out at the same time as PS2 everyone would have a Gamecube

i think X-box owners are in denial that PS2 is the more popular console

but i will admit that PS2 is kinda crappy in terms of power, but it is competitive graphics wise, at the moment anyway...

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Wow this post turned back into a PS2 denial collection and it was all supplied by the PS2 owners. I guess most people prefer to be sucked in by a brand name. I guess they would prefer a radeon 7000 over a radeon 9700. I don't like Microsoft at all. But that doesn't blind me when I want to get the best system I can. And if the Xbox was released a year earlier I wouldn't have it over a PS2. Like I said I owned a PS2, I was just able to see my mistake and amend for it.

Please not the console wars again. We had enough since a few weeks back. Please we are entitled to our opinions, so please, just keep the peace by keeping this comments to yourself. Thank you. ;)

i own a ps2, but thats because i bought it for like $250 with thps4 and vice city. ill admit, x-box is better than ps2, on most things. for one, i like ps2 controllers alot more, and i'd rather play gta than halo. x-box has wwe (formerly wwf, for non-wrestling fans) raw, while ps2 has smack down. raw has amazing graphics, with a piece of shit (am i allowed to say that?) engine, while smack down has decent graphics, with amazing gameplay. its alot about your taste in games, and your personal opinion

Everyone supports the xbox with the argument that the graphics are good. Well if you want good graphics upgrade your pc after all the xbox is just a 750mhz processor with a geforce 4

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Originally posted by budgetboy@4 June 2003 - 21:03
Everyone supports the xbox with the argument that the graphics are good. Well if you want good graphics upgrade your pc after all the xbox is just a 750mhz processor with a geforce 4

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See here is a perfect example of someone using the pc escuse. And what would that make the PS2? I don't care if you like the PS2, I am just tired of this denial trip some PS2 owners have. Give me valid reasons why you own the PS2 and not reasons why the Xbox is a bad pc, because that only states that the PS2 is an even worse pc, making your point nonsense.

ps2s graphix suck

the only thing ps2 has to brag about is GTA3 and vice city

THATS THE ONLY THING

vice citys comming out for xbox 2004

EDIT sorry double posted

i own a ps2... there part of the playstation family... itz great but u cant compare to computers... but then again u got that nice big screen tv... and a nice hand held control instead of a 56key keyboard or sumding like that

xbox --> microsoft
windows --> microsoft

WORD! how do u expect the games to be that good... there graphics are just the same as a bad computer video card lol

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the only thing ps2 has to brag about is GTA3 and vice city

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You forget Metal gear solid 2 ,Virtua Tennis 2 and more .....

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WORD! how do u expect the games to be that good... there graphics are just the same as a bad computer video card lol

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if ur saying a xbox is the same as a bad video card then what is a ps2???

playstation has been around way longer then xbox... xbox was created by microsoft... wat more can u expect~...

playstation was created by sony.... sony does alot of accessories... televisions... cameras, tape recorders, video recorders.... etc....

i would say playstation has about a ati radeon 9000+ video card... since the graphics gtaz look the same 2 me

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i would say playstation has about a ati radeon 9000+ video card... since the graphics gtaz look the same 2 me

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if ps2 is that good then xbox has ATI radeo 19000+ video card because the graphix is 2 times better

XBox Vs PS2

Xbox- Intel Pentium III 733MHz processor technology with Streaming SIMD Extensions

PS2-300 Mhz

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XBox - Graphics Card Clock Frequency: 300Mhz

(Xboxs Graphics card is almost identical to a Geforce TI 4200)

PS2 - Graphics Card Clock Frequency: 150Mhz
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Xbox-Memory 64MB

PS2 - Memory 32MB

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XBox- Memory Bandwidth 6.4 GB/Sec

PS2- Memory Bandwidth 3.2 GB/Sec

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Xbox- Polygon Performance 150 M/Sec

PS2- Polygon Performance 66 M/Sec

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XBox- Storage Medium- 5x DVD, 8 G I G A B I T E hard disk, 8 MB memory card

PS2- Storage Medium - 4x DVD, 8 M E G A B I T E memory card

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Xbox - Built In Ethernet card- Yes

PS2- Built In Ethernet card - No

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Xbox- DVD Movie Playback - Built In

PS2 - DVD Movie Playback - Utility required to be on memory card

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Originally posted by Soul814@4 June 2003 - 22:21
QUOTE (slimboyfatz @ 4 June 2003 - 19:27)
The glitches were everywhere (xbox version). Enemies running into walls and keep running, enemies stood inside office desks?!?, enemies getting kicked about when ya making no contact with them, etc etc........
Like i said before the Xbox version is meant to be the most Glitch-Free (so feel pity on the PS2/Gamecube owners). Y'know Shiny entertainment had the rights to a 'matrix' title a fair few years back, when the 1st movie came out and this is the tripe they came up with. Give the job to Bungie or Ubisoft next time and let them finish the job!!!

Oh and one more thing if you r thinkin' of purchasing the xbox version (sucka) just read this article and keep ya money.....

http://www.gamespy.com/reviews/may03...ox/index.shtml

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Gamespy - "If you simply must have one version, go with Xbox. It has the best overall framerate and the most progressive scan options."
I guess you didn't read the article to well. And the game is just a piece of shit no matter what system it was made on. But don't expect it to be better on the PS2 or Gamecube.

Here's the review for the PS2.
Gamespy - "The Lowdown: PS2 owners get the worst console version of a weak game. "

Here's the review for the GC.
"The Lowdown: Once again, awesome movies translate into a mediocre action game. "

And The PC
Gamespy - "The Lowdown: It has some value for Matrix fans, but as a video game, the PC version of Enter The Matrix is the worst of a mediocre lot. "

I don't know what this guys agenda is but it seems he is trying to discredit the Xbox by not giving the whole info. I don't suggust this game to anyone unless you can play it for free. Just love how they always supply new and not valid escuses to justify that they made the correct choice.

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Originally posted by Soul814@4 June 2003 - 22:21
i own a ps2... there part of the playstation family... itz great but u cant compare to computers... but then again u got that nice big screen tv... and a nice hand held control instead of a 56key keyboard or sumding like that

xbox --> microsoft
windows --> microsoft

WORD! how do u expect the games to be that good... there graphics are just the same as a bad computer video card lol

QUOTE (budgetboy @ 4 June 2003 - 21:03)
Everyone supports the xbox with the argument that the graphics are good. Well if you want good graphics upgrade your pc after all the xbox is just a 750mhz processor with a geforce 4

See here is a perfect example of someone using the pc escuse. And what would that make the PS2? I don't care if you like the PS2, I am just tired of this denial trip some PS2 owners have. Give me valid reasons why you own the PS2 and not reasons why the Xbox is a bad pc, because that only states that the PS2 is an even worse pc, making your point nonsense.

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I already showed why this point is not valid and someone still uses it

Xbox is just to good :) :) .....All you ps2 owners should be crying your selfs to sleep cuz you dont have Xbox LIVE you just have a cheapo PS2 online. By this time next year Xbox will have over 100 Xbox LIVE games and also tons of games that can get downloadable content via Xbox LIVE with a Highspeed Connection.

who the hell is making excusses?????? lol the ps2 owns all of america and japan in sales lol. and who cares about graphics? dont get me wrong, i'm not a fanboy, but it seems y are :|

ok well if graphics dont matter than go play a Saturn or something...or a Gamboy pocket... :P
Xbox kicked ps2's ass in like this...
- Xbox Graphics are EXCELLENT
- Xbox has the most advanced Online gaming system. Xbox LIVE
- Xbox's games have quality. PS2 has quanity.
- Features...Xbox is coming out with XSN Sports and Xbox Music Mixer...and Xbox's DVD kit is much better than ps2's
- and 5th Ps2 is just to damm old it needs to go into the retirement home with Saturan, N64, Gameboy Pocket, Genisis, Origninal Gameboy, NES, Super NES, Gameboy Color, and all the other Shitty sytems

:P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

xbox live is awsome any of u guys got it i play unreal chamionchip on there how about you?

my cuzin has been a long time MAC owner. he had made a vow that if he ever bought ne thing from microssft he would jump out of a plane. with just 1 week locked in my room with my xbox playing games made him break his vow. in the next few days we went down to costco bought his xbox, and scheduled his skydive. if Mr. Bill Gate$ can change his mind, he will change all yall sony fanboys minds.







P.S. he was going to orginally by himself a PS2

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Originally posted by kildred11@4 June 2003 - 18:45
I guess they would prefer a radeon 7000 over a radeon 9700.

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I would prefer the 7000 over the 9700, if the 9700 wasn't going to be released any time soon...

Like I said... release dates. Think about it.

Besides... The Xbox's graphics are better than the PS2's; no doubt about that, but again... that's because Xbox was released well after PS2. If the order was reversed, PS2 would dominate the performance category. Just because the Xbox has prettier graphics doesn't mean I'm just going to drop the console I bought brand new for $300, and wet my pants all the way down to Best Buy and plop down $400 for a 1980's VCR that plays videogames.

And that's my main gripe about the Xbox... it's fucking huge. You'd have to park the damn thing in your garage, instead of your car. I know Microsoft bloats everything they get their hands on, but my God...

Well i had all 3 systems. I sold the GC and X-Box to my little bro for half the price i paid for them. I played many games on all 3 systems and i have come to this conclusion: All 3 suck compaired to a PC. I kept the Ps2 mainly to use as a DvD player (and to rent a game every once in a blue moon).

I will say this though, the ONLY thing the Xbox had going for it was better graphics. Even then it wasn't that big of a differance or that big of a deal. Even that it wasn't that big of a deal, i had madden for both the PS2 and Xbox and i would allways play madden on the Ps2 because the controls were better(much more imporant than graphics i must say).

The Xbox itself is utter crap.


At least the PS2 had 2 good things going for it: Better games and a better controller. All and all the PS2 sucks as well.


Just end this retarded topic and throw the Xbox in the garbage can were it belongs :blink:

The only person in denial here is the topic starter.

As good as the graphcis are on the x box the games that are out for the ps2 are better on the whole even though they may lack graqphical detaling

Anyone who say the PS 2 is more advanced than Xbox is in denial but remember that the xBox came out nearly a year and a half after the PS 2.

The Xbox requires that you buy the remote to play DVD'S that half the reason you buy the thing both have 128bit graphic cability and both have digital optical sound.

True the xbox has the 4 player thing and built in ethernet not to mention the HD.

But for me the main thing is comfort if there is a more comfortable easier to use joystick than the PS joystick I haven't seen it.

All the really good games come out on both platforms eventually.

It may seem like a crappy reason to not have a console, but I hate the xbox controller. Its even bigger than my old megadrive control pad!

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Xbox kicked ps2's ass in like this...
- Xbox Graphics are EXCELLENT
- Xbox has the most advanced Online gaming system. Xbox LIVE
- Xbox's games have quality. PS2 has quanity.
- Features...Xbox is coming out with XSN Sports and Xbox Music Mixer...and Xbox's DVD kit is much better than ps2's
- and 5th Ps2 is just to damm old it needs to go into the retirement home with Saturan, N64, Gameboy Pocket, Genisis, Origninal Gameboy, NES, Super NES, Gameboy Color, and all the other Shitty sytems

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that is not a fact. i wouldnt call prettier graphics (like an extra bird in the sky or better reflection off football players helmets) quality.

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Originally posted by Kurdt Kobain@5 June 2003 - 17:53

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Xbox kicked ps2's ass in like this...
- Xbox Graphics are EXCELLENT
- Xbox has the most advanced Online gaming system. Xbox LIVE
- Xbox's games have quality. PS2 has quanity.
- Features...Xbox is coming out with XSN Sports and Xbox Music Mixer...and Xbox's DVD kit is much better than ps2's
- and 5th Ps2 is just to damm old it needs to go into the retirement home with Saturan, N64, Gameboy Pocket, Genisis, Origninal Gameboy, NES, Super NES, Gameboy Color, and all the other Shitty sytems

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that is not a fact. i wouldnt call prettier graphics (like an extra bird in the sky or better reflection off football players helmets) quality.

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then get an atari

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Originally posted by terfdurkel@5 June 2003 - 15:58
It may seem like a crappy reason to not have a console, but I hate the xbox controller. Its even bigger than my old megadrive control pad!

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another denial escuse, controller was conformed to people's likes in tests, when does a controller need to be smaller. I guess people can play better when everything is really small and tiny

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Originally posted by THE DUDE@5 June 2003 - 15:21
Anyone who say the PS 2 is more advanced than Xbox is in denial but remember that the xBox came out nearly a year and a half after the PS 2.

The Xbox requires that you buy the remote to play DVD'S that half the reason you buy the thing both have 128bit graphic cability and both have digital optical sound.

True the xbox has the 4 player thing and built in ethernet not to mention the HD.

But for me the main thing is comfort if there is a more comfortable easier to use joystick than the PS joystick I haven't seen it.

All the really good games come out on both platforms eventually.

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Lets remember you have to buy a $30 8mb storage card for the PS2. Xbox gives you unlimited space for memory.

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Originally posted by Bait Master@5 June 2003 - 07:50
Well i had all 3 systems. I sold the GC and X-Box to my little bro for half the price i paid for them. I played many games on all 3 systems and i have come to this conclusion: All 3 suck compaired to a PC. I kept the Ps2 mainly to use as a DvD player (and to rent a game every once in a blue moon).

I will say this though, the ONLY thing the Xbox had going for it was better graphics. Even then it wasn't that big of a differance or that big of a deal. Even that it wasn't that big of a deal, i had madden for both the PS2 and Xbox and i would allways play madden on the Ps2 because the controls were better(much more imporant than graphics i must say).

The Xbox itself is utter crap.


At least the PS2 had 2 good things going for it: Better games and a better controller. All and all the PS2 sucks as well.


Just end this retarded topic and throw the Xbox in the garbage can were it belongs :blink:

The only person in denial here is the topic starter.

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I guess a built in 8GB HD and ethernet plugin and better graphics and 4 controller ports aren't anything going for it huh?
If you don't care about the graphics then why do you own a PS2. Get an Atari or some old PC with great games of all time.

And to an early post about buying a PS2 and not wanting to go drop $300 on an Xbox. I never said there was anything wrong with you. I owned a PS2 and would still own it if I never heard about the Xbox in the 30 days grace period after I bought this. This place is just about bashing lame escuses PS2 owners are making about why they prefer the Xbox over the PS2. I could care less about a person just saying they have a PS2 just because they prefer it. But to justify that reason with lies is what pisses me off.

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Xbox kicked ps2's ass in like this...
- Xbox Graphics are EXCELLENT
- Xbox has the most advanced Online gaming system. Xbox LIVE
- Xbox's games have quality. PS2 has quanity.
- Features...Xbox is coming out with XSN Sports and Xbox Music Mixer...and Xbox's DVD kit is much better than ps2's
- and 5th Ps2 is just to damm old it needs to go into the retirement home with Saturan, N64, Gameboy Pocket, Genisis, Origninal Gameboy, NES, Super NES, Gameboy Color, and all the other Shitty sytems

that is not a fact. i wouldnt call prettier graphics (like an extra bird in the sky or better reflection off football players helmets) quality.
then get an atari

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what i was saying is, ps2 graphics are goo enough, you dont need more realistic grass, or some more polygons for someones nose.

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Originally posted by terfdurkel@5 June 2003 - 15:58
It may seem like a crappy reason to not have a console, but I hate the xbox controller. Its even bigger than my old megadrive control pad!

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another denial escuse, controller was conformed to people's likes in tests, when does a controller need to be smaller. I guess people can play better when everything is really small and tiny

a controller doesnt need to be small, it needs to be comfortable