RTS Ripping off ScT

I only joined RTS yesterday and am trying to boost my ratio, I noticed a Final Destination Pack that I had already downloaded on ScT and though something good to seed.
Then I looked on ScT again and it is labeled as a ScT Pack, downloaded the torrent off RTS and its a complete RIP off of ScT the download dir is even set to Final.Destination.Pack.DVDRip-ScT.
Now is it me or is that completely wrong like ok I know its done on torrent sites all the time with normal release but some upload on ScT has spent time putting that pack together just for the guy on RTS to download it and change three letters in its name, and incompetently not even change the download dir.

Nope, it's ScT stole this pack from RTS . But RTS uploader was a smart guy, he knew it would happen, so he initially named the dir as Final.Destination.Pack.DVDRip-ScT , in order to make ScT's uploader's life easier

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Originally Posted by jaqozo

Nope, it's ScT stole this pack from RTS . But RTS uploader was a smart guy, he knew it would happen, so he initially named the dir as Final.Destination.Pack.DVDRip-ScT , in order to make ScT's uploader's life easier

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i dunno what RTS or ScT is. But why you care about it so much?
If you are admin or uploader in ScT, then i can understand you.

If you are just normal user, download and seeeeeed, then it is enough.
life should be easy.

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Originally Posted by SweetT

i dunno what RTS or ScT is. But why you care about it so much?
If you are admin or uploader in ScT, then i can understand you.

If you are just normal user, download and seeeeeed, then it is enough.
life should be easy.

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Relax ppl and enjoy.. If you have issues about these kinds of stuff imagine how the actual owners of the material we pirate feel, lol :P :P :P

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Originally Posted by Moonspell13

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Originally Posted by SweetT

i dunno what RTS or ScT is. But why you care about it so much?
If you are admin or uploader in ScT, then i can understand you.

If you are just normal user, download and seeeeeed, then it is enough.
life should be easy.

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Relax ppl and enjoy.. If you have issues about these kinds of stuff imagine how the actual owners of the material we pirate feel, lol :P :P :P

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I am not an admin or uploader on ScT I am just a concerned ScT Seed Whore LOL, I only point it out because
1. its funny that the uploader on RTS is not even smart enough to rename the dir.
2. its a bit out of order that RTS steal from ScT.
3. i don't think a torrent sites source should be ripping it off other sites. Sort of defeats the point.

I suppose you are right Moonspell13 the people who make the films originally will be the most pissed.

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Originally Posted by SweetT

i dunno what RTS or ScT is. But why you care about it so much?
If you are admin or uploader in ScT, then i can understand you.

If you are just normal user, download and seeeeeed, then it is enough.
life should be easy.

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that comment is just sweet :) like ur signature

All sites rip each other off because a lot uploaders only source is torrent sites, so they get it from one and put it on another. Recently i saw that there was a big fuss on FTN because an uploader put up a pack and forgot to take out a txt file linking the pack back to SCT.

I suppose you are all right maybe I was dreaming when I thought that all torrent sites sourced there stuff off top sites and made their own packs.

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Originally Posted by ssj4gogeta

3. i don't think a torrent sites source should be ripping it off other sites. Sort of defeats the point.

I suppose you are right Moonspell13 the people who make the films originally will be the most pissed.

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Well I disagree, that's exactly the point, to share with other ppl.. What does it matter where the file came from?? All sites steal other sites' releases anyway and all of them steal the scene (who don't want ,as they say, their releases on torrrent sites..).. The point is to spread the material to everywhere where someone can get it :)

alot of fuss about nothing imo.

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Originally Posted by ptp5352

All sites rip each other off because a lot uploaders only source is torrent sites, so they get it from one and put it on another. Recently i saw that there was a big fuss on FTN because an uploader put up a pack and forgot to take out a txt file linking the pack back to SCT.

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Pretty much. Even ScT has done it before...

what do you think release groups are doing ?? they are stealing copyrighted content !

this is nothing compared to that .... !

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Originally Posted by ssj4gogeta

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Originally Posted by Moonspell13

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Relax ppl and enjoy.. If you have issues about these kinds of stuff imagine how the actual owners of the material we pirate feel, lol http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/ http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/ http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/

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I am not an admin or uploader on ScT I am just a concerned ScT Seed Whore LOL, I only point it out because
1. its funny that the uploader on RTS is not even smart enough to rename the dir.

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Believe it or not, they\\\'re actually getting smarter. One guy a while back left FTN on the name of the torrent as well http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/ All sites may do it on occasion, but that doesnt make it right. A sites respective uploaders take a decent amount of trouble in a variety of ways to make and upload the pack. It\'s better in a way if they leave the name. It would be like trackers taking scene releases not leaving the group name

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Originally Posted by ptp5352

Recently i saw that there was a big fuss on FTN because an uploader put up a pack and forgot to take out a txt file linking the pack back to SCT.

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Which pack? FTN would probably take down other trackers\\\' packs if they complain.

RTS is known for ripping off other sites packs and other crap and renaming it. They dont think its wrong.

Just like there staff used to think account trading was ok, untill they get there own site and then say other wise, but still ok to trade other sites accounts.


RTS is a huge joke.



Wild

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Originally Posted by wildbytes

RTS is known for ripping off other sites packs and other crap and renaming it. They dont think its wrong.

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So do other sites, including ScT.

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Originally Posted by Buggyme

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Originally Posted by wildbytes

RTS is known for ripping off other sites packs and other crap and renaming it. They dont think its wrong.

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So do other sites, including ScT.

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Well that is bullshit.

On wb we will delete shit that is renamed and or stolen inhouse releases. If your going to steal it atleast give credit to where you got it from.




Wild

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Originally Posted by wildbytes

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Originally Posted by Buggyme

So do other sites, including ScT.

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Well that is bullshit.

On wb we will delete shit that is renamed and or stolen inhouse releases. If your going to steal it atleast give credit to where you got it from.

Wild

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Yeah, it is.

But keep in mind though, most of the packs are scene releases, which means you COULD have gotten it from a topsite but you could also get it from another tracker. And furthermore, most of the packs here are like season packs of common tv shows, movies, etc. It's not like personally encoded exclusive video or anything.

I'm sure RTS will be against this sort of stuff as well.
If I remember correctly, I think they banned an uploader who stole one of FTN's packs?

Man, who cares, all those releases were scene releases, the ones who did the hard job was the rippers who released it on the scene. The kiddie who uploaded it on ScT just did a click in his torrent client? |-)

the only places that have exclusive shit is theplace and bitme. places that have original material that isn't available anywhere else.

Compiling scene releases into a 'pack' is NOT exclusive.
its also NOT HARD and anyone who says otherwise just wants attn.

Stop whining, its free. The people who make the packs should not care, if they do, they should work @ hollywood

This "don't upload our packs on other trackers"-rule is so lame.

Most of the new rips are stolen from the scene. Maybe if you want it so torrent sites have there own material they should get rippers to go out get the dvd, rip it, encode it and package it. If they did that then they have a legitimate right to compalin when some one steals their work. If they dont do that they are compalining that someone stole the work they stole form someone else. Does that make sense.

Oh and i almost forgot the best part of it. The scene is stealing from the movie studio. Unless you are the copywrite holder no one really can say anything about someone else taking their work.

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Originally Posted by trad3r

the only places that have exclusive shit is theplace and bitme. places that have original material that isn\'t available anywhere else.

Compiling scene releases into a \'pack\' is NOT exclusive.
its also NOT HARD and anyone who says otherwise just wants attn.

Stop whining, its free. The people who make the packs should not care, if they do, they should work @ hollywood

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If its not hard, why dont they use their own access and make the packs themselves?
I\'m not saying their committing some unforgivable sin, just that they shouldn\'t act surprised when uppers get pissed and tracker staff ban them.

they could, but if its been done already, why do it again. This is why people use scene releases instead of ripping and encoding themselves, its a waste of time to do it twice when its available already.

If you take this complaint to the extreme, places like ScT and FTN should be ripping and encoding their own shit instead of STEALING from topsites (not my opinion, just taking this complaint to the max to prove a point). This way they would have legitimate complaints when their 'scene' stuff and packs are rip'd off.
Most scene folk (from what i've heard or been told) dont like their shit ending up on p2p/torrent sites, but it does, thats the nature of file sharing, it gets SHARED.

Get my point now?

Personally i can get my hands on around 70% or more of the packs from ftp's.
So why does it really matter from were i download the packs? I prefer downloading from torrents since i dont have to worry about credits then, all i need to do is leave the computer on. (might also add that im not uploading anything to any trackers)
But what whats the big deal with uploading something from one tracker then uploading it to another?
It might not be morally correct to do it, But nether is downloading anything that is copyrighted.

Though i can understand why someone might get irritated if they spend time and credits on making the packs only to find them uploaded on 3 other sites a few hours later. But then you can take the pleasure in knowing that a lot more people will enjoy your work :p
Just share and be happy

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Originally Posted by Cheffy

Personally i can get my hands on around 70% or more of the packs from ftp's.
So why does it really matter from were i download the packs? I prefer downloading from torrents since i dont have to worry about credits then, all i need to do is leave the computer on. (might also add that im not uploading anything to any trackers)
But what whats the big deal with uploading something from one tracker then uploading it to another?
It might not be morally correct to do it, But nether is downloading anything that is copyrighted.

Though i can understand why someone might get irritated if they spend time and credits on making the packs only to find them uploaded on 3 other sites a few hours later. But then you can take the pleasure in knowing that a lot more people will enjoy your work :p
Just share and be happy

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Isn't it the torrent-sites that makes this packs?

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Originally Posted by trad3r

they could, but if its been done already, why do it again. This is why people use scene releases instead of ripping and encoding themselves, its a waste of time to do it twice when its available already.

If you take this complaint to the extreme, places like ScT and FTN should be ripping and encoding their own shit instead of STEALING from topsites (not my opinion, just taking this complaint to the max to prove a point). This way they would have legitimate complaints when their \'scene\' stuff and packs are rip\'d off.
Most scene folk (from what i\'ve heard or been told) dont like their shit ending up on p2p/torrent sites, but it does, thats the nature of file sharing, it gets SHARED.

Get my point now?

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Your point is well-taken, and I am the first to point out the hilarity of moralizing on any subject relating to piracy. I am against it only as a practical matter: it makes uppers less likely to create and distribute packs. And again, at the very least, give credit to the original site, as ScT recently gave HDBits credit on their HD packs. It should avert at least some ill will.

I also agree full credit where credit is due, and I heartily believe that if such sharing wasn't so taboo, credit would be given when the re-uploader feels safe in doing so (not being ban'd from original site where credit is given).
P2P should be like the computer security world, all documents are shared and freely re posted as long as you credit the original author/site.

There are other trackers with exclusive content and their own rippers.....Just not so common..

many small sites have own content

Especially those that allow anyone to up, and don't have these crazy criteria to do so, like RARed and 50Mbit up

How nice, a bunch of pirates arguing the morality of stealing from each other.

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Originally Posted by quakie

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Originally Posted by Cheffy

Personally i can get my hands on around 70% or more of the packs from ftp's.
So why does it really matter from were i download the packs? I prefer downloading from torrents since i dont have to worry about credits then, all i need to do is leave the computer on. (might also add that im not uploading anything to any trackers)
But what whats the big deal with uploading something from one tracker then uploading it to another?
It might not be morally correct to do it, But nether is downloading anything that is copyrighted.

Though i can understand why someone might get irritated if they spend time and credits on making the packs only to find them uploaded on 3 other sites a few hours later. But then you can take the pleasure in knowing that a lot more people will enjoy your work :p
Just share and be happy

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Isn't it the torrent-sites that makes this packs?

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Ehh, no. The scene rips the episodes / movies and releases them.
What the torrent site does is toss all those episodes / movies into one folder and make a torrent of it. I dont think that qualifies as "making" them.

I have access to a few 10TB ftp archives. And most of those actually archive them as a "pack"

Series
-Lost
--Season 1
--Season 2
--Season 3
Thats how the folder three would look, now if i were do "make" a pack of that i have to download the say season 1.
Then Rename the folder to: Lost.S01.DVDRip.XviD-WAT-(Name of torrent site) Then make a torrent of it, and upload that torrent to the torent site.
This does not qualify as "making" the pack if you ask me.

But if the torrent site dont want you to upload their packs to other sites, And i guess thats their choice and we as users have to respect the rules of the sites we chose to use.
We might not agree with them, But we should follow the rules they have set for us.

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Originally Posted by jaqozo

Nope, it's ScT stole this pack from RTS . But RTS uploader was a smart guy, he knew it would happen, so he initially named the dir as Final.Destination.Pack.DVDRip-ScT , in order to make ScT's uploader's life easier

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:D

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damn, this wildbytes guy is the most righteous guy isn't he? he never does anything wrong and his site is the most experienced

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Originally Posted by upGrayde

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damn, this wildbytes guy is the most righteous guy isn't he? he never does anything wrong and his site is the most experienced

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Nobody said he was more righteous than anyone else.
This forum is for commenting is it not?
Everyone is subject to comment in their own opinions are they not?
You left a comment about Wild and I respect that.
If you feel like making a comment about me as well feel free to.
You can even call me an asshole in your comment if you like.
Dont think it would bother me 1 bit. Although it might give you a good laugh when you get a reply to your post from myself when I plainly agree with you calling me an asshole ;)

Point of the story... Its a forum for commenting. Hes commenting, your commenting, comments are comments.

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Originally Posted by Melvinmeow

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Originally Posted by upGrayde

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damn, this wildbytes guy is the most righteous guy isn't he? he never does anything wrong and his site is the most experienced

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Nobody said he was more righteous than anyone else.
This forum is for commenting is it not?
Everyone is subject to comment in their own opinions are they not?
You left a comment about Wild and I respect that.
If you feel like making a comment about me as well feel free to.
You can even call me an asshole in your comment if you like.
Dont think it would bother me 1 bit. Although it might give you a good laugh when you get a reply to your post from myself when I plainly agree with you calling me an asshole ;)

Point of the story... Its a forum for commenting. Hes commenting, your commenting, comments are comments.

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lol

Funny, i just PMd a uploader from the site in question the other day about taking one of the packs from a certain site. And like i told him, it took a lot of time an effort to put some of those packs together....its cool if you give credit, something like "i saw this around and thought members here might like it, thanks to original upper" or use it to make an original pack, ie. add a few, take some out, but to upload a 1for1 identical pack (he even used the images used by the original uploader) is very sad.

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Originally Posted by Buggyme

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Originally Posted by wildbytes

Well that is bullshit.

On wb we will delete shit that is renamed and or stolen inhouse releases. If your going to steal it atleast give credit to where you got it from.

Wild

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Yeah, it is.

But keep in mind though, most of the packs are scene releases, which means you COULD have gotten it from a topsite but you could also get it from another tracker. And furthermore, most of the packs here are like season packs of common tv shows, movies, etc. It's not like personally encoded exclusive video or anything.

I'm sure RTS will be against this sort of stuff as well.
If I remember correctly, I think they banned an uploader who stole one of FTN's packs?

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im not sure about that. if that is the case they wouild be banning staff members of rts... an rts staffer got banned from ftn for uploading a ftn pack onto rts.

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Originally Posted by Yoga

How nice, a bunch of pirates arguing the morality of stealing from each other.

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:yup: ..lol ... its like pickpocketing a bank robber