Swedish Police Will CENSOR The Pirate Bay

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July 6, 2007
Working online gives you a lot of friends. Some of those gives you heads up when something big is going on, and sometimes really big things happen.

A couple of hours ago I got one of those - The Swedish Police is going to put The Pirate Bay in it’s child porn filter!

The filter is a voluntary system that the Swedish ISPs agree to use. They redirect DNS entries they find within this list to a page where it gives you information about why it’s blocked. The meaning of this filter is what? Real child porn is probably hidden somewhere, and we’ve been the victims of this filter wrongfully before! And you know what? It’s the same police officer that I was angry with for blocking the previous domain that is responsible for this blocking too.
(It’s three weeks ago..) And he doesn’t pick up the phone.

To make things perfectly clear - we don’t host any content. And I have never seen child porn on the bay. Our moderators work on all the reports we receive from the public and they contact ECPAT or other organisations if they found suspicious stuff. The police has never contacted us in any aspect regarding child porn! And who would put it up there?

TPB is the most visible place there is. People that distribute stuff like this put it on darknets and I would think they know that the risk of getting caught putting stuff on a public system like The Pirate Bay is really huge. It’s sexual suicide!

If the police would find anything wrong - shouldn’t they first contact us, then bring us in for questioning regarding the content, ask for our help or bring us to court for our wrongdoings?
By not acting this way it’s very clear what this is all about. It’s all about quieting a voice that is really uncomfortable for them since they don’t have any legal standpoint in doing it. It’s sabotage, it’s abuse of power given to them.
It will forever make our site associated with something as disgusting as child porn. They are labelling us - without being even tried for it in a legal system, remember - as having something to do with child porn!

So who’s abusing children? It’s the police, for using the same filtering system as to protect them, to gain from it themselves. For them, it’s good that children get abused, so they can shut down sites they don’t like. Yes, it sounds sick, but this is the way it has become.
I hope that the Swedish ISPs will take action against this and stop using the childporn filter! And that’s a bad thing because it could have some good effects, but they decided to go a bit too far with their filtering.

TPBs users create around 40% of the Swedish internet traffic due to file sharing… so stay tuned for an update, this is going to be a really big fight…

UPDATE: A press release from the police (soon published, I got the heads up again from a journalist) states that “it’s not decided that we’ll put The Pirate Bay in the list - if the content is still there next week we’ll put them there”. So, come on! What fucking content are you talking about? Still not a single contact attempt from the police..

:source: Source: blog.brokep.com

Abuse of power is an understatement...

The police are doing this for effect, like they seized all those servers, even though most belonged to legitimate companies trying to conduct their day to day business.

This smacks of a violation of the freedom of speech. A gagging order by those who have the power to do so, regardless of whether it is right or wrong.

hmm... public sites r extremely bad these days, not that i use them alot these days.

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Originally Posted by WHRST

hmm... public sites r extremely bad these days, not that i use them alot these days.

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Yes, but that makes them even more bold. The only one I use is demonoid, but I have respect for all of them. They're the ones who have to deal w/ all the govt bull shit.

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Originally Posted by mbucari1

Yes, but that makes them even more bold. The only one I use is demonoid, but I have respect for all of them. They're the ones who have to deal w/ all the govt bull shit.

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Demonoid is the only public tracker I use too (unless I'm desperate), but you really have to be proud that there are crazy fuckers like The Pirate Bay sticking up for us. Long live TPB! :D

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Originally Posted by mbucari1

Yes, but that makes them even more bold. The only one I use is demonoid, but I have respect for all of them. They're the ones who have to deal w/ all the govt bull shit.

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Demonoid is the only public tracker I use too (unless I'm desperate), but you really have to be proud that there are crazy fuckers like The Pirate Bay sticking up for us. Long live TPB! :D

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LOL, I completely agree. God bless those Bold SOB's

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Originally Posted by Broken

Hey faggot you think anyone gives a fuck about your gay thread? Or read any of this bullshit? Why dont you cry to a mod and get your buttfucked you dumb assfucking homo. Kid is using napster still cuz faggot cant request a file from Fserv LOL not that kid knows how to connect to it alone the command for it.

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Are you on any medication?

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Originally Posted by HKM

Hey faggot you think anyone gives a fuck about your gay thread? Or read any of this bullshit? Why dont you cry to a mod and get your buttfucked you dumb assfucking homo. Kid is using napster still cuz faggot cant request a file from Fserv LOL not that kid knows how to connect to it alone the command for it.

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Does shooting people over the internet not work yet? :(

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Hey faggot you think anyone gives a fuck about your gay thread? Or read any of this bullshit? Why dont you cry to a mod and get your buttfucked you dumb assfucking homo. Kid is using napster still cuz faggot cant request a file from Fserv LOL not that kid knows how to connect to it alone the command for it.

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Ooops :)

It may sound mad but im with the police on this one. Have a look through the top 100 picture torrents and tell me there isn't any child porn being distributed on tpb.

It might be time for the pirate bay to actually remove their first torrent.

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Originally Posted by 4play

It may sound mad but im with the police on this one. Have a look through the top 100 picture torrents and tell me there isn't any child porn being distributed on tpb.

It might be time for the pirate bay to actually remove their first torrent.

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Wow, I see your point.

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Originally Posted by SaveFerris

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Originally Posted by mbucari1

Yes, but that makes them even more bold. The only one I use is demonoid, but I have respect for all of them. They're the ones who have to deal w/ all the govt bull shit.

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Demonoid is the only public tracker I use too (unless I'm desperate), but you really have to be proud that there are crazy fuckers like The Pirate Bay sticking up for us. Long live TPB! :D

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Amen.

public trackers are the brave ones because they have to deal w/ all the govt bull shit.

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Originally Posted by 4play

It may sound mad but im with the police on this one. Have a look through the top 100 picture torrents and tell me there isn't any child porn being distributed on tpb.

It might be time for the pirate bay to actually remove their first torrent.

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Supposedly kiddie-pron is one of two things they remove when they see, but there are some torrents on that list that make me uncomfortable to say the least. And not all are particularily recent either.

Their excuse, from what I understand, is that there's a hell of a lot of torrents being submitted, and some slip through. But I'd have thunk people knew how to report that evil shit anyways :ermm: Another problem is that the dubious torrents I notice are passed off as art, rather than pornography. Tricky stuff, censoring art :dabs: (Although personally I'd delete any such torrents since I really don't reckon it's art (and even if it was, it's exploiting minors), and tell the users uploading them they weren't welcome anymore.)


They do have one valid point, however, and that is that a public tracker is a pretty fucking stupid place to share those files, might even be an ideal place to catch any idiots sharing the stuff without proxying up properly. (And obviously, TPB is only hosting torrents, not the material itself :dabs:)

Not sure the police is interested in fairness here, however, since they don't seem willing to explain exactly which torrents are wrong according to them.

From what I understand (from elsewhere, and I see it's in that post as well), they aren't even willing to talk with TPB's representatives, when they could have outlined which torrents were considered child pornography, making it very simple for TPB to point to that when "censoring art".

And finally, to compound the issue, one organisation compiling/submitting to the list is a private one, not part of the police.

EDit: the end result of this, however, will be that a whole lot of people who previously didn't have a clue on how to bypass this child pornography-filter will learn how to do it.

Sick shit, TPB operators are obviously very fucked up individuals for ignoring this! Some of it clearly labeled, in the top 100 and uploaded for many months.. i mean for fuck sakes, its not like its all just recently been up'd and hard to find. What other reasons a site have to allow child porn to be distributed other than it supporting child abuse, or wanting to profit from its users. Just read PRQ which is owned by the founders of TPB also hosts a site which defends paedophilia (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06...ts_dodgy_site/)... Not that i ever use TPB but I for sure wont be using em or any affiliates again, twisted cunts....

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Originally Posted by erebus

Just read PRQ which is owned by the founders of TPB also hosts a site which defends paedophilia (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06...ts_dodgy_site/)...

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And yet the police aren't shutting that down, or filtering it :dry:

Why is it up? Because it doesn't contain anything illegal, according to swedish law. Hence, taking them down would be (not legally required) censorship, and of an allegedly political site at that.

It's fucked up, but it's legal, and contains no kiddie-porn.

And since TPB/PRQ seems borderline fanatic when it comes to freedom of speech, I suppose they can't refuse business when it's not illegal. I guess they also reckon that once we start censoring opinions that aren't actually against the law because we find them distasteful, someone else, with something less distasteful to say, might be next.



I suppose letting the sick fucks have a say raises public awareness, and reading what they have to say might well hurt them. I hope.

As for the rest, TPB claims they report all instances of actual child pornography to the police (and takes it down), so I guess what's left for any length of time is stuff that can't clearly be classified as child pornography :ermm:



Personally, I say the fucker running the pedo-site should stop hiding in anonymity. If he wants his say, he should damned well do it as himself.

"TPB/PRQ seems borderline fanatic when it comes to freedom of speech"

They support the rights of these bastards to spread their sick message but what about the basic human rights of the children they abuse and who's lives they ruin?? They are as you say fanatic about freedom of speech and show no regard for the impact that speech has. However I wonder if terrorists were at war with sweden and started hosting material on TPB encouraging suicide bombing etc. of sweden if TPB would still defend to the death the right of freedom of speech.. Like fuck they would! Simple fact about this ugly world is that its better some people are not heard.

Police take credit wrongfully

Hej! Jag har sökt dig på din mobil utan framgång. Listan som distribueras till operatörerna senare i veckan innehåller inte Pirate Bay. Presstjänsten vid RPS kommer att distribuera ett pressmeddelande i saken. Med vänliga hälsningar Stefan Kronqvist

(Short translation to english: The child porn filter list distributed this week will NOT contain the pirate bay)

They claim that their work has been successful when trying to rid the Internet of child porn. I want to point out that still to this day, the police has not given us one single hint on what content on the site has been containing child porn - and the things we have filtered out has been proven not to be child porn either. So wtf? What is this content their talking about?

We are currently thinking about filing charges against the responsible police officer for slander or official misconduct, and we will continue to investigate the actions they have taken.

More information will follow as soon as we have any.

Source: Pirate Bay Blog

according a few sources people have been reporting possible child porn on the pirate bay blog which have promptly been removed.

this user for instance is mentioned on the blog and funnily now has no torrents posted a few days later.

how the pirate bay can now stand up and say we removed nothing and what you said is libelous is just plain stupid. agreed the police should tell tpb of any suspect content and if they then refuse to remove it then they end up on this list.

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Originally Posted by kopimi

when searching for child porn the moderators found a lot of spam, false torrent descriptions and other stuff. it's therefor they got deleted.
the admins _suspended_ some torrents that where questionable but they are back if they where correctly described or such.
users are deleted all the time when they spam or put up spyware/virus and so on.

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:dabs: (comment from the blog cited above)