http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,90403,00.html
see for urself, issued on thursday 26th
looks like its gonna happen :angry:
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,90403,00.html
see for urself, issued on thursday 26th
looks like its gonna happen :angry:
yes I knew this sotry beofre anyone on this forum form my sister coz whe works with the paper and who gives a f.....> why are so many people paranoid whats different about before??
is it just me or have you quoted YOURSELF in your sig?Quote:
Originally posted by TheFilePirater@27 June 2003 - 07:13
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,90403,00.html
see for urself, issued on thursday 26th
looks like its gonna happen :angry:
I dont think much will come of this - how can they sue millions of people - hundreads of millions of people? aint gonna happen
im not paraniod bout it, it just seems weird
the thing said that there gonna go for the ones wit highest mp3s
I wish i knew things before you did thompers, you make me feel inferior.Quote:
Originally posted by adthomp@27 June 2003 - 07:36
yes I knew this sotry beofre anyone on this forum form
yeah it helps when u have a sister who works with the media :D
Maybe not in the hundreds of millions, but surely in the hundreds, then possibly in the thousands. I know first hand in my home town, that Verizon released the name of one guy for sharing over 600 mp3's. Verizon is my ISP also. Fortunately, I haven't been sharing for a VERY long time.Quote:
Originally posted by crazy_billy_bats@27 June 2003 - 00:37
....I dont think much will come of this - how can they sue millions of people - hundreads of millions of people? aint gonna happen....
If there is easy money to be made by suing, then they'll do it. Got some greedy laywers backing them up.
(How ironic, the RIAA is suing its potential music customers)
Thats s*it man.....Quote:
Originally posted by Spindulik@27 June 2003 - 10:19
Maybe not in the hundreds of millions, but surely in the hundreds, then possibly in the thousands. I know first hand in my home town, that Verizon released the name of one guy for sharing over 600 mp3's. Verizon is my ISP also. Fortunately, I haven't been sharing for a VERY long time.
If there is easy money to be made by suing, then they'll do it. Got some greedy laywers backing them up.
(How ironic, the RIAA is suing its potential music customers)
But how can they have enough money to start filing lawsuit after lawsuit, into the thousands !?
And then stretch it to outside America - it just isnt possible - with the growth of the internet virtually everyone uses it now for downloading music and movies.
Whats next then - the Movies association starts sueing everyone?
I just cant see it happening properly....or maybe i am just hoping it wont happen..... <_<
Anyway I hope the b*stards dont get any of you in the US, or anywhere else.
They got the money now (from all the sales of the music, I assume. Maybe pre-internet cash). It will be a snowball effect. Anyhow, the money from the first few hundred will backup suing the next few hundred, then thousand.Quote:
Originally posted by crazy_billy_bats@27 June 2003 - 03:23
But how can they have enough money to start filing lawsuit after lawsuit, into the thousands !?
And then stretch it to outside America...
They'll do it. They are in too deep now to give up now.
Then the movie industry will immediately follow, at the expense of the music industry.
Then other countries will learn then "ropes' of the USA laws and follow through.
etc..
etc...
This isn't about money!Quote:
Originally posted by Spindulik@27 June 2003 - 05:09
They got the money now (from all the sales of the music, I assume. Maybe pre-internet cash). It will be a snowball effect. Anyhow, the money from the first few hundred will backup suing the next few hundred, then thousand.
They'll do it. They are in too deep now to give up now.
It's about control.
They can sue all the filesharers they want ( and maybe even win), but they'll never see a penny of the fines. How many 18 year olds have a couple of million dollars laying around?
Look at what happened to the four college students they sued a couple of months ago- they were suing for millions and settled for a couple of thousand.
The industry has lost the control of music that they enjoyed ( and exploited) for decades.
Big acts ( i.e. The Eagles) are bypassing the major companies to form their own.
Bands like Phish encourage their fans to share live bootlegs, going so far as to provide good soundboard copies online.
Bands are starting to realize that they can bypass the Industry and deal directly with their fanbase- thus cutting off the middleman.
A small band can produce their own CDs, sell them direct over the Internet and turn a profit on far fewer sales than if they had to support the bloat/excess that is the music industry today.
This latest attack by the RIAA has less to do with the rights of the poor starving artist than it does with maintaining the lifestyle of the corporate execs.
They can't sue all of us. But with the first lawsuit and the extreme media coverage watch the numbers drop off kazaa. One guy said "It doesn't take too many tickets to get everybody to obey the speed limit." As long as we all continue to speed they WILL run out of legal funds.
I expected the RIAA to eventually go after us but I thought that it would be after Apple's music store opened to Windows users. Until that happens we still have no way to recieve music in the form we like it and no easy way to put it on our MP3 players. I knew that it was comming, I am just suprised by the timing.
Rigth now the political world is not in a position to be following the united states lead in anything. Becasue the relaxing of the constitutional lawsin the state this is becoming possible. Not so in most othe countries, I do hope though that they cannot make any of this stick, because the US does provide alot of us, but I do not think that other countries have much to worry about, atleast nothing to worry about in near future.Quote:
Originally posted by Spindulik@27 June 2003 - 12:09
Then other countries will learn then "ropes' of the USA laws and follow through.
Anyways this article is nothing new,
Im not woried one bit
So true, so true! The music artists who are also complaining about us "stealing" their music are hardly starving, though! And the RIAA certainly seems to have a few extra bucks lying around to sue us, so it sure does not seem they have lost any money after all.Quote:
Originally posted by clocker@27 June 2003 - 11:53
This latest attack by the RIAA has less to do with the rights of the poor starving artist than it does with maintaining the lifestyle of the corporate execs.
The RIAA can kiss my arse. I will continue to share MP3s and take my chances. They certainly would not get a penny out of me if they sued me. It would be a waste of their money. Hopefully a judge will finally rule that the RIAA has been ripping people off with outrageous CD prices over the years.
Boycott RIAA! Download MP3s and stop buying from them! :)
Unfortunately, this means you're helping them! :oQuote:
Originally posted by Spindulik@27 June 2003 - 05:19
I know first hand in my home town, that Verizon released the name of one guy for sharing over 600 mp3's. Verizon is my ISP also. Fortunately, I haven't been sharing for a VERY long time.
Leeching the network hurts the network worse than leaving it. :(
Here's an idea, if you're so worried about it: rotate what you share. 100 MP3s one day, a different 100 the next... you're still sharing, and they aren't likely to go after people with only 100 when there's people with thousands. ;)
:ninja:
Get peer gaurdian update the list for it
Get a good firewall like Norton security withch works very well
And then your fine they can sue you if they dont know if you are sharing
My question that has yet to be answered legally, is how do you prove which computer in a house is the culprit (maybe the MAC, but I use a router which can have any MAC) and who was the user. Perhaps my buddy was using my computer last week and set KaZaa to auto start and hide in the tray, or be set not to even show in the tray.
They must issue a warning to the ISP first I would imagine. Then if ignored, take it further, but without having the computer, all the logs they have seem a bit soft if truly challenged legally as we may see in later cases.
Though they will most likely offer everyone settlements with no admission of guilt like the colledge kids, if you were cut a deal with no guilt and it cost less than legal fees you would say ok and call it a day, this is the idea they are banking on, while getting alot of publicity.
Though someone may eventually say fuck it and fight.
emmm?
I agree with the speeding ticket analogy. They will go after only a few 100
people, not thousands, in ratcheting up their efforts to scare people from
using P2P methods.
Yeap!Quote:
Originally posted by I'm_going_slightly_mad@27 June 2003 - 10:05
This latest attack by the RIAA has less to do with the rights of the poor starving artist than it does with maintaining the lifestyle of the corporate execs...
The "poor starving artist", is merely a tool, a puppet, just as important as the exec's pen or stapler. Music artists are a dime a dozen.
It would be nice to earn my keep like a musician who has music on CDs for sale. I too wish I could record my work (I do construction work and installation) onto a disk. Then instead of me going to work every day, to get paid. I can give my boss a disk of the work and get paid too much to do nothing everyday.
I presume then, that all of you have not heard of the latest Microsoft program to stop p2p program sharing?
It's called Windows P3, and whenever you turn on a file sharing client, it dials into your credit card, charges you 1K per second, and then formats your computer seventeen times, charging you for the use of its formatting software...
WTF...Quote:
Originally posted by adthomp@28 June 2003 - 11:04
emmm?
errrrrrrr.
wtf the windows p3??
Bullshit, I think its supposed to be a JOKE.Quote:
Originally posted by TheFilePirater@28 June 2003 - 22:56
wtf the windows p3??
I'm just not gonnah think about it and keep PeerGuardian running! :D They lose, we win ;)