Do you think trading tracker accounts is a good or bad thing for the BT community?
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Do you think trading tracker accounts is a good or bad thing for the BT community?
For scammers is very good...
For me i think its OK
Honestly Invites are much better than accounts
Invites are meant to be given for free, to people you trust, and for personal use. I don't think trading do any good to the community at all.
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Originally Posted by kaffeine
This man is right about everything he just said right here.
:yup: So, true! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by kaffeine
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Originally Posted by Corais
For the BT community account or invite trading is a bad thing, it's not good for the security of the tracker. But is a good thing to the traders (and MPAA/RIAA spies) :rolleyes:
not good and not bad
Not good at all and I see that every tracker have right to disable accounts traded
But also I see they should allow trade invites
PS I don't trade anymore
Trading accounts is not good for the Site/traders besides Trading invites is away safer
we should not allow trading accounts here :)
-V
I'll wade in. I believe there are many sides to this. Consider two traders, one has an account they created for the purpose of eventually using it for trading. They go into the process without a loyalty to the tracker moving between them; but what they are doing is misusing the account created by the site thereby disrespecting that torrent community. Even giving away an account is not right when you think about it.
What is the worst though, is when someone accepts an account during a giveway with a promise not to trade, and then turns around and trades it. That is where the accusations of dishonesty are most relevant!!! This kind of trading is dirty and should always be frowned upon.
The worry I have for invites that I have given away, and plan to give away, is that while I give them to someone whom i believe is of good reputation, if they ever give or trade that account to a person of poor reputation next thing you know, I end up with a stained reputation because the 5th or 6th person to put their hands on the account just pulled a bunch of HnR's and created bad feelings all around.
It is much to consider, and impossible to control for all angles and possibilities. At the end of the day though, I do disagree with trading. I believe invites should be freely given, and freely received. Less trading would result in more giveaways and more accounts moving between hands, as people would be less cautious and worried about getting their reputation ruined!!
Bad, I don't really like people who trade, account is not meant for trading, just my opinion
Account trading is terrible for the BT community. When you invite someone there is a connection to you which makes you think hard if you can trust them. When you give away/trade an account there is nothing stopping you from giving it to any old person you come across beacuse they give you a good offer or whatever. I understand many people will take care when trading or giving away accounts, but many others will not. At least with invite trading (which is also wrong) there is the safety net of self interest that can help keep some of the riff raff, cheaters, scammers ect out of private trackers which are meant to be private and only shared between good friends.
How about an option to ban account trading at FST you would have my vote.
Ok that's enough :) **sear takes a deep breath**
Having traded accounts, due to ignorance on my part and just wanting something because it was there, I never gave the tracker, and its staff, much consideration. However, I can say I never abused any account that I had either.
However, poacher turned gamekeeper, and I can now see how some trackers would not want their accounts just changing hands willy nilly, never mind the amount of passkeys that could end up in the public domain.
I also have never passed on any account that I have been invited to, indeed it would be impossible to disentangle actually in most cases, and it was only through experience that I realised that being invited in through the front door was the only honourable way to conduct oneself, and that it would have been highly disrespectful to the invitee should I even contemplate trading an account.
There are also some trackers that don't care, and this is where most of the confusion arises from, but overall no account trading should be the norm.
I do not see much harm in offering an invite for an invite, whether it be of equal value or not, and this where I believe the the direction of the BT Invites section should be heading.
FST should be the voice of P2P, and if the trackers as a majority do not want account trading, then their views should be taken into consideration when formulating a new policy.
Maybe there could be in the future a further sub-forum for account trading, I don't know, but I agree with majority, I would like to see the back of account trading in the BT Invite Section of the FST forum all together.
for me not bothered
but must trade with trust guys
it does not matter, there are and will always be users that take part in itQuote:
Originally Posted by Chewie
Bad, bad bad.
it can lead to all kinds of issues. Your information gets twisted up with everyone that you trade with or that they trade with. someone else can do some dirt, on an account gets linked to you and you get a bad rap. You and everyone involved can easily loose accounts on a dozen trackers at once.
yap... very bad thing... but when u have a scope to obtain something u'r constrainedly to make this acc trading, u know...
I don't know exactly what's the solution 4 this, but will be a good thing if this acc traiding will not be available...
In rest... CHEERS to everyone! :)
Bad. And it's unbelievable it happens so much on this forum
is bad no matter , what the reason, is just like saying war is bad or good? war always be bad, but maybe there no otherway :happy:
Bad, as same as any trading.
If you have account that you do not use, you should give it to someone who will, not trade it.
I agree it is bad. People being greedy...
Good... A lot of antitraders. :-)
Account tradeing is very bad for everyone expekt scammers
so for me i don`t like tradeing.......
I think account trading should be forbidden. These section is called invites section...
Annoying hypocrites. I decided to see how many people have attempted to trade accounts that said trading was bad in this thread. Unsurprisingly 13/19 peeps have, that was without looking very hard through their post. A couple have attempted to to trade accounts after they posted in this thread and one genius has a thread specifically for trading accounts. I don't really care either way, hypocrites just really annoy me.
So name them for all of us to know.
come on , everybody know what is bad and good in this world. and trading is not the best way to get into a site. so it called bad. but bad is not mean at all something that is forbidden.
Trading accounts is probably not good for the community itself, agreed.
But...the community can hardly complain about people who break their rules when they're breaking the law themseves :happy:
Honesty among thieves :whistlingQuote:
Originally Posted by bblogs
I tallied it and didnt write the names down. Didnt want to point my finger at people specifically. I was just trying to make a point. If you think trading is bad I wont disagree with you. However, I do think the people that are saying its wrong should be quite when they are actively attempting to trade accounts. There is alot of that going on lately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mugur
In the past FST members were pointing the finger only at scammers. :happy:
This is slowly changing and they are also pointing the finger at hardcore traders.
I think though, that the question should be "Can you resist trading"? :ermm:
A lot of people understand that account trading is not good.
Scammers also know that scamming is not good ! :D
The thing is: are they willing to stay away of trading or scamming despite of the benefits they might get? :whistling
It means nothing to me if you are an active trader and claim you are against it.
It means almost nothing to me if you become an antitrader only if you acquire the trackers you want by trading. You will probably start trading again when a new tracker pops up in the top list. :w00t:
Do you remember how many "retired" traders here realized that it wasn't actually the right time to get their pension? :frusty:
For me a mature antitrader is the one who can resist trading, even if he has rare invites that could get him into any other tracker he doesn't have and desires,and yet, he doesn't do it. :noes:
@znik
U simplify things, Buddy. It is not an issue of being black or white.
Trading IS NOT bad in the 1st place. It isn't the right feature. Better be judged by: Useful or Not? I am a pragmatist, U know. :)
I traded a lot in the past, and frankly speaking I enjoyed it. But I don't sh...t, where I ate. I quit, and started to help my friends here with giveaways and with any other issue if asked (assuming I was capable of doing that). I don't feel myself a bad person (actually, not worse than U) just because I traded, and that said trading was a terrific tool to get friends here with a lot of people (traders or not), whom I value and respect a great deal to date.
Honestly IMO trading is fun, and not an ethical category like armed robbery - which is bad. That does not mean that I go back to trading or unretire...no. I've had enough (awesome pension:) got what I wanted, and even more importantly I 've found new perspectives, new challenges joining BitTorrent communities (I do not want to mention names). I am able to deliver at another level, and keeps me busy in the meantime. But who am I to make judgements? Nobody. I do not have the experience and wisdom yet. I even come to like my so -called "E-adversaries".
Now I would not turn them down if had a favor been asked...
invites are to be given away acct if you are done with em give em up as someone else can get that slot with a invite
When you quote me, please do not edit in words that are not there.Quote:
Originally Posted by th0r
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Originally Posted by Chewie
it is simply good when u dont have the tracker u want, and bad when u have it :)
well spotted ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ChewieWhen you quote me, please do not edit in words that are not there.Quote:
Originally Posted by th0r
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Originally Posted by Chewie
Trading accounts is the only way to get to the top trackers fast. And there's not that much "disrespect for community" (except breaking tracker rules) in trading - people did their service by providing bandwidth while they were buffering account for subsequent trade. Forbidding account trading here is a bad idea, there should be a place free of all tracker rules.
What alot of people are forgetting here is that the people that run trackers are putting themselves at risk for you. Tracker staff face fines, jail time and criminal records. The least we can do is respect their wish to lessen those risks. I don't think anyone here wants to spend time in a federal prison because someone traded an account to the wrong person.
Why is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by AugustoP
Please explain what gives FST the right to flip the bird and say 'stuff you' to sites that are offering a filesharing service, when one of FST's main purposes is to promote and encourage said service.