''Please ban account Trading''

yes it must be done, the trading age is about to end let us just respect one of the Private BT Sites rules , let us just try it , let us enjoying the free invites , let us (FST) respectable between all torrent sites , imagine how the staff will be around handing invites to all good users , ask the old one's here about that most of the high levels now were given for free , staff members was made posts helping people with thier issues
you all know its very easy now to get an user ip and ban the account trader
please let the Previous days back again
invites should be traded with the Trused users
Please We must discuss this issue seriously and take the right step really many things will be Changed Of course, for the better
if you agree make your Signature Under the slogan
''Please ban account Trading''
thnaks for reading
Cheers
-V

lol ur like one of them activists.
I think we should do what he sais otherwise he be chaining his ass to the front door :naughty:

so u actually think that trackers like trading invites but hates trading accounts..trading is trading..whether its invites or accounts!.i kinda agree with ur approach at some points..but on the whole..this wont be my sig..sorry! :)

You've got my signature :) It's wrong and shouldn't be alowed. If somebody invited you to a tracker you should be grateful for your account, if you trade it away it's the same thing as saying, I don't appreciate the gesture that my inviter has shown me, and it could also mean trouble for your inviter if the new user doesn't keep a good ratio, it could actually have serious consequences like banning of the inviters account :(

Signed :)

it's like dreaming of a world in peace, not going to happen for a while, human race still has so much to learn ;)

if you want to get in tt or swedvdr. do you think the staff will give us free TT, swedvdr accounts!? how are we supposed to get access to trackers when they do not have invites enabled? the only possible reason then would be that the staff from TT or swedvdr will come here and hand out free invites to us, or that we would all have to wait such a long time for the trackers to enable the invites again. so you would have to trade sometimes to get what you want

if you didn't have such a poor trading history yourself, i would applaud you.

Hi, I'm pretty new with al this for start. But whats to best way to get into a private tracker? Just wait for subscriptions to open? Our if you're lucky someone you know has an invitation?

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Originally Posted by SkykeN

Hi, I'm pretty new with al this for start. But whats to best way to get into a private tracker? Just wait for subscriptions to open? Our if you're lucky someone you know has an invitation?

And is tradding invitations so bad? Is it 'forbidden'?

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Make friends, and eventually those friends will invite you to any tracker you want. :)

Patience and honesty are underrated...they actually work!

Not gonna happen. If you want to get to high level trackers by trading you have to trade accounts and/or spend money.

its hypocrisy to say "trade invites , but dont trade accounts " .

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respect one of the Private BT Sites rules

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the rule is comprehensive to the invites 2 .

I've already said this in the invite-forum in the poll about account trading and I'll repeat that here: it basically doesn't matter how someone becomes a member on a tracker, be it by inviting him or by trading away an account. The risk for him to be a cheater or a bad user for whichever reasons is the same. The only way to decrease the number of bad users is with new rules and some accountability for your own account.

And while I support trackers who have had enough from their site being used as a large pool for (account) trades, I still don't think it's right to abhor the trade of accounts but not think twice about invites.

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Originally Posted by sina1260

if you want to get in tt or swedvdr. do you think the staff will give us free TT, swedvdr accounts!? how are we supposed to get access to trackers when they do not have invites enabled? the only possible reason then would be that the staff from TT or swedvdr will come here and hand out free invites to us, or that we would all have to wait such a long time for the trackers to enable the invites again. so you would have to trade sometimes to get what you want

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Has anyone stopped and thought about this!..?? if you had then it would stand to reason that perhaps, just perhaps... the staff from the "higher ranked" site might just hand out invites... BUT, there are so many scammers, and TRADERS out their that just simply don't give a rats patootie about the tracker(s) simply because they have a "VALUE" attached to'em. the staff at these trackers REALLY love, protect and respect their sites, so much so that some of them have gone to great lengths to try and keep them a secret.. (like that works) anyways my point is this, if we do away with that stupid ranking list, things will calm down to the point that maybe these much sought after sites might reconsider enableing their invites at least..... so many peopl here have been talkin a good game and saying things like "trading is the only way to get into a good tracker"... for those of you who trully believe that ... :frusty:.. you are very much so wrong it takes trust and time... but most want instant gratification! and as a result of their selfishness we suffer! NOT COOL GUYS!

get rid of that list and close all thread pertaining to rare trackers... and after a while things would be way different.. too much emphasis has been put on rarity anyways.. this has been said before but, we really need to be rating quality of the site not how hard it is to get in it... this was also said.. how many ppl have trackers that they don't know what the heck it says??!! this is disgusting! and you ought to be ashamed of yourselves....

also i agree with the fact hat ALL TRADING should be banned.. invites as well!!! (just read my sig!)

-REGUARDS-

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Originally Posted by marksman

so u actually think that trackers like trading invites but hates trading accounts..trading is trading..whether its invites or accounts!.i kinda agree with ur approach at some points..but on the whole..this wont be my sig..sorry! :)

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dude , if you road abit of the torrent sites history you will know that trading invites was allowed on most of these trackers ;)

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if you want to get in tt or swedvdr. do you think the staff will give us free TT, swedvdr accounts!? how are we supposed to get access to trackers when they do not have invites enabled? the only possible reason then would be that the staff from TT or swedvdr will come here and hand out free invites to us, or that we would all have to wait such a long time for the trackers to enable the invites again. so you would have to trade sometimes to get what you want

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why you don't wait till they open sign up ! plus the 2 sites you mentioned have invites system but its disabled atm

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the rule is comprehensive to the invites 2 .

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read my thread carefully , i said trade them with the users who you trused , don't invite people who you don't know may be he is a Cheater and will effect on the whole invites tree
-V

I personally am all for banning both trading accounts and invites, but the topic of the thread is only about trading accounts. Invites shouldn't be traded but rather be given to people you trust instead of people who trades you an invite that you would like to have. That's better for both the tracker and yourself :) And if there's no invites you should be patient and wait for the staff to open up for invites, they probably have a reason for closing the tracker.
As I said earlier, it could have serious consequenses for both the inviter and yourself, if you use a traded account. The different trackers don't allow it, so if you trade an account you betray the tracker from the beginning, is that a way to start?

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Originally Posted by marksman

so u actually think that trackers like trading invites but hates trading accounts..trading is trading..whether its invites or accounts!.i kinda agree with ur approach at some points..but on the whole..this wont be my sig..sorry! :)

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dude , if you road abit of the torrent sites history you will know that trading invites was allowed on most of these trackers ;)
-V

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but thats changing ... i think :whistling

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Originally Posted by jasperr

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Originally Posted by V For Vendetta

dude , if you road abit of the torrent sites history you will know that trading invites was allowed on most of these trackers ;)
-V

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but thats changing ... i think :whistling

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yep thats right , and this thread said why ;)

I don't see how people get away with trading accounts. If I login from an IP in California and then login from an account in England...uhh...isn't that like a easy way to see something isn't exactly right? I know admins stay busy, but don't they log traceroute info?

Invites = Free :)

I think you should check out this thread. :)

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Originally Posted by psxcite

I don't see how people get away with trading accounts. If I login from an IP in California and then login from an account in England...uhh...isn't that like a easy way to see something isn't exactly right? I know admins stay busy, but don't they log traceroute info?

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but you could login from england on a seedbox, it doesn't mean that the account has changed owner

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Originally Posted by betty2007

I think you should check out this thread. :)

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did i said that i was not an account trader ?? :unsure:
I have lived experiment , and i discovered that i took the wrong turn so i wanna warn all with that thread before they became Regret
can you Check most of my trade threads pls ?
-V

I feel a bit like a broken record saying this but... yes, please ban account trading :yup:

There are a lot of good reasons that I'm not going to repeat here, but one of the most important ones is out of respect for FST...:fst:

When I first came here there wasn't any account trading that I can recall (if I remember right it wasn't allowed) and the whole trading thing was a lot more chilled out. IMHO stopping account trading is in the best interest of every honest member of this board.

I don't want to say too much more as FST staff are well aware of how I feel about trading ;)...in the end it's their decision and I'm going to stick around regardless because I have a lot of fun with my friends here, but saying it one more time can't hurt can it? Account trading is poison.

Nice sentiments V...I'm not going to change my sig but that's just because I like the one I've got but I wholeheartedly support you campaign. Keep it up :01:

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p.s. V, it's never too late to realise you made a mistake ;)

Btw, invite trading is not trading at all. It's just one man sending an invite as a "thank you" to another. Just like some sites thank their members for donations :)

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Originally Posted by AugustoP

Btw, invite trading is not trading at all. It's just one man sending an invite as a "thank you" to another. Just like some sites thank their members for donations :)

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:lol: that's pretty funny.

I would like the views of the FST staff here....particularly those who are BT mods.

Whilst myself and numerous others are against trading in general there seems to be a growing number of users who would like account trading banned here.

Consider the following:

• It is against the terms and conditions of every private tracker to trade an account - you are disrespecting every tracker by letting that happen here.
  
• Most of the trades that involve scams seem to be account trading - it would make life easier for the staff here to actually ban it.
  
• It is a BitTorrent Invites section.

I know some of the older members are just getting pissed off with it all but if you'd prefer to have the snotty nosed kids that do all the account trading here then that's up to you.

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the rule is comprehensive to the invites 2 .

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read my thread carefully , i said trade them with the users who you trused , don't invite people who you don't know may be he is a Cheater and will effect on the whole invites tree
-V

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no . you dont get it .
trusted or not trusted , trading is trading .
doesnt matter with whom or for what .
if invites trading is allowed so trading accounts should be allowed .
invites are given to you , for u to invite a friend of yours .
not to give them away or trade them. with someone you dont know.
if you trust him , you can give him for free.

Invite trading, account trading. Both are bad. It is harmful to the torrent community as a whole and disrespectful to the rules of the tracker.

How many trackers out there are saying....trade our accounts please!! I'm sure a small minority really don't care, or don't act to punish users who do this; but most do -- and they proclaim it loud and clear when you join/sign-in/read their forums, rules etc etc etc.

There are only two ways to honourably join a torrent site. By receiving an invite that you plan on using for yourself because you want to join that site, or through open signups.

To obtain entry to a site from account trading, or invite trading is breaking their rules and reflects someone who is acting in an impatient and selfish manner.

Lest we forget that torrent sites are private communities that have every right to define for themselves who they want as a member and under what circumstance. Membership is not an entitlement for anyone who feels like belonging. It is not a right. It is instead a privilege. For those who are too impatient. What is the rush!!!!

Sorry for the strong language, but this issue has been discussed many many times on this board and the same messages are put out there.

As sear's sig line above says...BT trading puts us all at risk. And if people are too short-sighted to see the implications of this statement than be ready to see the dying off of BT communities.

There...that's my cranky statement of the day!

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read my thread carefully , i said trade them with the users who you trused , don't invite people who you don't know may be he is a Cheater and will effect on the whole invites tree
-V

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no . you dont get it .
trusted or not trusted , trading is trading .
doesnt matter with whom or for what .
if invites trading is allowed so trading accounts should be allowed .
invites are given to you , for u to invite a friend of yours .
not to give them away or trade them. with someone you dont know.
if you trust him , you can give him for free.

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i see dude , but you missed Something
most of the trackers were allows Trading invites as i road in the big old threads , they Forbidden Trade account/invites when its Spreaded

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Originally Posted by kallieb

Invite trading, account trading. Both are bad. It is harmful to the torrent community as a whole and disrespectful to the rules of the tracker.

How many trackers out there are saying....trade our accounts please!! I'm sure a small minority really don't care, or don't act to punish users who do this; but most do -- and they proclaim it loud and clear when you join/sign-in/read their forums, rules etc etc etc.

There are only two ways to honourably join a torrent site. By receiving an invite that you plan on using for yourself because you want to join that site, or through open signups.

To obtain entry to a site from account trading, or invite trading is breaking their rules and reflects someone who is acting in an impatient and selfish manner.

Lest we forget that torrent sites are private communities that have every right to define for themselves who they want as a member and under what circumstance. Membership is not an entitlement for anyone who feels like belonging. It is not a right. It is instead a privilege. For those who are too impatient. What is the rush!!!!

Sorry for the strong language, but this issue has been discussed many many times on this board and the same messages are put out there.

As sear's sig line above says...BT trading puts us all at risk. And if people are too short-sighted to see the implications of this statement than be ready to see the dying off of BT communities.

There...that's my cranky statement of the day!

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agree !
but we can not make all steps From the first time ;)
the goal is make FST is a loved Community between the Torrent sites , then the deals will be decided what to do next
-V

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Originally Posted by RaPPeR

no . you dont get it .
trusted or not trusted , trading is trading .
doesnt matter with whom or for what .
if invites trading is allowed so trading accounts should be allowed .
invites are given to you , for u to invite a friend of yours .
not to give them away or trade them. with someone you dont know.
if you trust him , you can give him for free.

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i see dude , but you missed Something
most of the trackers were allows Trading invites as i road in the big old threads , they Forbidden Trade account/invites when its Spreaded
-V

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So there is something good that happened from accounts trading. for the first time eh ? :P
I don't believe it'll ever end. There are tons of forums over the net .
I don't know how it used to be on those trackers , But it'll never come back again.
Hmm , in generally I'm against trading.
But, I did trade when I wanted/needed something.
NO MORE :)
+1 For you ? :P

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Originally Posted by AugustoP

Btw, invite trading is not trading at all. It's just one man sending an invite as a "thank you" to another. Just like some sites thank their members for donations :)

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as far as i knew...... when ya give someone somthing for another something, thats called a trade! :yup:

not a means of thanks .. lol
no matter how ya slice it ... a trade is a trade pure and simple.. :fist:

(some people will strive to no end, to support misguided ideas.)

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Originally Posted by RaPPeR

So there is something good that happened from accounts trading. for the first time eh ? :P
I don't believe it'll ever end. There are tons of forums over the net .
I don't know how it used to be on those trackers , But it'll never come back again.
Hmm , in generally I'm against trading.
But, I did trade when I wanted/needed something.
NO MORE :)
+1 For you ? :P

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sadly.. i agree, it may never end.. BUT, it has to start somewhere.. why not here???

and again... you shouldn't have to trade at all, to get what ya WANT... there's plenty of ppl here that will give an invite to damm near anywhere.... IF your a proven member of the community!

FST already have a bad name (imo) between torrent site, so I doubt FST respectable between all torrent sites

its all fine, but talking about me now. i trade but i think that we dont need trade for have what we want, i start it a torrentleech free invite of a friend, next i get sitr and revolutiontt, after two weeks i get oink, bitme, bitmetv, fb, db, hdbits, bit-hdtv, scn, oink, one more week and i get czone ncore iplay scenetorrents, in the next week i received tranceroute and thors. a few days a free kg wiitorrents i dont more tracker. And i have other accounts but dont use much.

only traded for get czone,darkside. and all trackers that i will have in will be for and from my friends.

So i was wrong when try trade its not the right way, giveaway its good, and give invites to your friend its very good.....


p.s: dont try all tracker or the rare ones this isnt a game. And make friends its the way. Anti trader.

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not a means of thanks .. lol
no matter how ya slice it ... a trade is a trade pure and simple..

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So how do you call situation when a person sends some money and gets upload credit?

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not a means of thanks .. lol
no matter how ya slice it ... a trade is a trade pure and simple..

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So how do you call situation when a person sends some money and gets upload credit?

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Pay 2 Leach ;)

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So how do you call situation when a person sends some money and gets upload credit?

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If that is how the tracker wants to manage their affairs that is their business pure and simple. They are the ones who determine the rules and ways to gain ratio etc. If you don't like it you don't join.

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So how do you call situation when a person sends some money and gets upload credit?

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If that is how the tracker wants to manage their affairs that is their business pure and simple. They are the ones who determine the rules and ways to gain ratio etc. If you don't like it you don't join.

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No one is forced to join FST and trade accounts as well :)

When i joined this place it was very different. One could just ask for an invite and 9 times out of 10 you'd get it.. Greed ruined it all...

This almost reminds me of a South Park episode I watched recently. Basically about activists and protestors concerning the war in Iraq.

"I'm a little bit country (activists), and I'm a little bit rock n' roll (protestors)."

Benjamin Franklin makes his feelings known. He believes they could become a country that could go to war, but at the same time also make it appear like we don't want to go to war by allowing people to protest. "…an entire nation founded on saying one thing, and doing another."

For some reason this reminds me of this topic, because there is always going to be people who are for/against trading. In theory we balance each other out. Both will always be there, and both will always keep the other in check. ;)