Music Industry Warning

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07-05-2003, 09:18 PM
jonjon2000

just got the 2nd warning below this past week .. have peer guardian on, latest kazaa lite with box on options "prevent others from getting list" checked off .. how do they find me? are they tracking specific files or heavy downloaders? any comments?
COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT WARNING:
It appears that you are offering copyrighted music to others from your computer. Distributing or downloading copyrighted music on the Internet without permission from the copyright owner is ILLEGAL. It hurts songwriters who create and musicians who perform the music you love, and all the other people who bring you music.

When you break the law, you risk legal penalties. There is a simple way to avoid that risk: DON'T STEAL MUSIC, either by offering it to others to copy or downloading it on a "file-sharing" system like this.

When you offer music on these systems, you are not anonymous and you can easily be identified. You also may have unlocked and exposed your computer and your private files to anyone on the Internet. Don't take these chances. Disable the share feature or uninstall your "file-sharing" software. For more information on how, go to http://www.musicunited.net/5_takeoff.html.

This warning comes from artists, songwriters, musicians, music publishers, record labels and hundreds of thousands of people who work at creating and distributing the music you enjoy. We are unable to receive direct replies to this message. For more information about this Copyright Warning, go to www.musicunited.net.
07-05-2003, 10:29 PM
MetroStars

why does nobody take screenshots of these warnings... I think this is RIAA scare tactics --
07-05-2003, 10:31 PM
[B][O][T]

Quote:

Originally posted by MetroStars@6 July 2003 - 00:29
I think this is RIAA scare tactics --

Agreed :angry:

BOT
07-05-2003, 10:42 PM
Illuminati

One thing's being severly oversighted.

One message is normal (though very few get them now). Doesn't anyone else think that with the second one, jonjon would have been taken down like a ton of bricks if what the music industry is saying about punishment is true?

This leaves either two reasons - Either they aren't keeping track on where these messages go (hence kinda making them seem pointless other than to scare people), or they're not striving to prosecute so they send another "to be sure" when in reality it's just that they can't be bothered going for the smaller fries.

Either reason, I'm still PMSL because to me this is more than enough evidence that the RIAA et al are all mouth and no balls :D
07-05-2003, 11:03 PM
Busyman

The warning is real. I got one for sharing Minority Report and Windows Xp Pro. I'm in the Washington DC area and have Comcast Cable (that's who I got the letter from). All I've been doing is stop sharing the particular files I got letters for.
Question: Can they get my IP if I'm using a router (I'm not using one)?
07-05-2003, 11:07 PM
sparsely

It's automated. Message sending bot.
you could get 2 or 12, they don't know. Just like ad bots in chatrooms, etc.
You think there's actually someone at the other end messaging random users and
pasting that message a thousand times a day?

It's simple chance, that's all. I've yet to recieve one of these type of messages. I'm on frequently,
and the only thing I share is music...about 1600 files. Just like the auto-dialers that the
telemarketers employ. It just keeps going till it gets a hit.
:rolleyes:

ps- Recieving a letter from your ISP is different. That means that the MPAA or whoever has contacted
your Provider about your sharing, in hopes to intimidate both them and you into blocking
file-sharing and cutting off p2p.
07-06-2003, 02:51 AM
Celerystalksme

The love i have for being an Australian...And it is so funny they put a link on how to take off a file sharing program from a computer...we managed to share millions and millions of music right under their noses and they think we don't know how to take off a file sharing program...It's not that we don't know how to do it...it's because we ain't gonna do it...KAPOW... :P
07-06-2003, 04:09 AM
Busyman

Oh and by the way I also received a phone call from my ISP saying they got a complaint from 20th Century Fox and to stop sharing a file or my account would be suspended.
07-06-2003, 04:13 AM
sparsely

Call them back irate, swearing you never shared that file and that you have no idea what they're
talking about. Ask em to prove it.
07-06-2003, 04:49 AM
Jayhawk

my old computer got 2 of those messages. and then when i was at college i dont know who it was but they contacted my college and told them to shut me down and they did for a week it was retarded.
07-06-2003, 05:37 AM
Busyman

Hey Sparsely when they sent the letter they had the exact filenames of files I shared and my IP addr. I do know to DAK anyway. I never spoke to anyone. If it comes down to it (in court) they will have to prove it.
07-06-2003, 06:10 AM
Rip The Jacker

Quote:

Originally posted by MetroStars@5 July 2003 - 23:29
I think this is RIAA scare tactics

Yup. Notice how 90% of the people who post RIAA warnings and crap like that dont have more than 10 posts! :angry:

I bet you this guy wont ever post at this board again.
07-06-2003, 06:16 AM
balamm

Quote:

downloading it on a "file-sharing" system like this

Like what? There was no mention of a program, it just says >

Quote:

It appears that you are offering copyrighted music to others from your computer

If this is from an ISP, then why isn't there an ISP contact number or site?
Why is it pointing to a third party site?

Why no warning about a breach of the AUP?

I find this very un-credible.
07-06-2003, 07:48 AM
Busyman

My letter said I breached the DMCA.
07-06-2003, 08:27 AM
Riddler

If what these 'watchdogs' and fat-cat executives are saying is true about bringing these cases to court ( because the poor, starving songwriters, performers and producers, etc. are going to have to find a way to get by on only a kazillion dollars a year ) then I hope legal systems and law enforcement organizations all over the world are prepared. The money, man-power and resources involved in such an undertaking would be unheard of in the history of law. The resources set aside for say... the fight against drugs for example, are a pathetic fraction of what is needed to even make a dent in the armour. So, the fight against us evil file-sharing criminals is suddenly going to merit a campaign that could financially cripple the economic prospects of some governments ? I doubt it. This is why, I for one truly believe that the RIAA and others are placing a long-shot bet that if they send out a few million emails with an automated spam system and make a few phone calls in the dark and MAYBE lay a handful of charges that have little chance of getting past privacy and individual rights and freedoms law, most of us will tuck our tails between our legs and go back to playing computer solitaire for entertainment.
And furthermore, if anyone from the RIAA or any other concerned agency is reading this, I have one thing to say to them.........you do not have the cards to make that bet. I call........You lose.