Please Read-elite invite section

I would like to see if any members are interested in starting an elite invite section. One in which only extremely trusted and obviously commited people to the torrent scene can be admitted to.

Maybe Im idealistic, but, I hate to not be able to help other "up and coming" members much like I have been helped. But at the same time, Im a DONOR and have ATLEAST a 100 gb buffer on each and every tracker I'm on...Im not gonna lose my account that I have built up, put effort and MONEY, just to help some fucking up and coming prick/cheater....sorry...

But I would like to start an elite section that we can see who is who, what they are about, what they stand for, and what they have done...is any one interested? anyone know what has to be done here on FST to get it started?

*I hope this is the right section*

There's already 2 secret sections for that purpose, when you know the right person of either section, depending upon your history, you might get invited to one or the other.

Is there really room for another elite section to serve your purpose, an elite invites section? I very much doubt it.

Interesting. Do they just randomly pop up out of nowhere?

Very Interesting ..

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Originally Posted by SgtMajor

There's already 2 secret sections for that purpose, when you know the right person of either section, depending upon your history, you might get invited to one or the other.

Is there really room for another elite section to serve your purpose, an elite invites section? I very much doubt it.

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They're secret? :O

It just seems the newer users don't know about them skizo, you could always tell them about the other forum sections ?

i certainly have no idea what you are talking about. Although i really do not need to i wish for no invites to anything ever again unless there is another major fatality of a site that i use, but if there is somewhere else i might have something to offer in it.

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Originally Posted by Artemis

It just seems the newer users don't know about them skizo, you could always tell them about the other forum sections ?

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No need really. While they sections aren't a secret, we do not openly advertise them. You see, the more people know about them, the more PMs I have begging for entry.

If a member is here long enough and is recommended by a member who is already in one of the hidden sections, a vote is taken on whether or not to add them.

Basically, there is no need to advertise as it's more of a "Don't ask us; we'll ask you" situation.

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Originally Posted by SgtMajor

There's already 2 secret sections for that purpose, when you know the right person of either section, depending upon your history, you might get invited to one or the other.

Is there really room for another elite section to serve your purpose, an elite invites section? I very much doubt it.

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never knew they existed...

another nice thread to start the usual fight between traders, retired traders, non-traders and anti-traders...:P

Anyway, from what I 've heard these private places never served the purpose of acquiring high level invites. :noes:

Hardly ever any invite is offered and even these are not even picked up, since these trusted senior members do not idle there to get invites, but rather to talk freely and safely without all these spammers in the their feet, know each other better and of course help each other if someone has a problem with something.

Whoever looks for an easy way to get rare invites that way should search somewhere else.:rolleyes:

Whoever wants to get in just to offer some invites is also meaningless, since these senior members and com. reps hardly ever need any invites. :noes:

A new section for trusted noobs that would actually need invites and would probably use them wisely I am not sure how could be implemented and under what criteria could anyone be admitted. :ermm:

Invites are meant for people we really know well anyway and not for someone who belongs in an "elite" group. :happy:

I am well aware of the ATG & VTG forums I was just giving you (Skizo) the opportunity to say that there are already other forums in place. Znik though has brought up a valid point, not only for here but in general in the bit torrent community, by the time you are a 'senior' member or recognised as being trusted you usually already have the invites that you wish anyway.

yeah that was a valid point of Znik bt invite section is good enough to get invites, there is no need to have a secret place to give ur invites,if u r considered trust able then u will get invite in bt invite section itself .

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Originally Posted by dave12

yeah that was a valid point of Znik bt invite section is good enough to get invites, there is no need to have a secret place to give ur invites,if u r considered trust able then u will get invite in bt invite section itself .

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The Veterans section isn't about being a secret place, or the only place to obtain certain invites. It has longer term members that don't want the hassle of the Invite section spam and n00bs, nor the risk of trading or inviting members who are unknown and pose a higher risk.

It is also a Lounge style atmosphere where loose chat and non-bittorrent related topics are also posted.

A sort of sanctuary if you will for long-term, trusted traders.

there's one good thing:

if you are not looking for invites and at the same time people don't ask you for invites, you can easily sort out who your real (online) friends are.

you can chill and discuss bittorrent topics without the whole invite thing spooking around in your head all the time.

While it may be true that once you reach a certain level you have all that you need. My concept and idea was to build a section:
(1) For members that want to help out what they/we feel are trusted members, commited members
(2)For a community and environment away from freeloaders and bloodsuckers
(3) For new members that are not already apart of the good old boys network (that has proven obvious to exist)--> there shouldn't be this sort of secrecy and what not, where no body even knows the section even exists....Im not an ass kisser, not even on the internet, nor do I think one should have to kiss ass, entrance should be based upon merit and nothing more.

Inspite of the fact that several such sections exists....I dont know them to exist...and even so...they are secret...unless against rules/regulations of individuals at FST, I don't see why there cant be another.

I'm kinda charged up! Other members that are interested?

For starters: I will donate one level 9 invite, 2 level 8's, 2 level 7's, 3 level 6's and level 5's
+ anytime after school/work towards getting things started....

Secret lounges or "Special" lounges tend to be inactive, I like the noobyness to laugh at, the drama to laugh at and the cheaters and scammers to pwn.

But znik and skizo pretty much summarized this thread, minus the getting trusted invites.

I heard its kind of like the dead poets society:shutup:

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Originally Posted by MrVictorRivers

For new members that are not already apart of the good old boys network (that has proven obvious to exist)--> there shouldn't be this sort of secrecy and what not, where no body even knows the section even exists....

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What are you going on about? I already stated in my initial post that the sections aren't a secret.

The only reason the sections cannot be seen is to give the members a bit of discretion from the rest of the Internet.

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Originally Posted by MrVictorRivers

Im not an ass kisser, not even on the internet, nor do I think one should have to kiss ass, entrance should be based upon merit and nothing more.

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Where did all the ass kissing blather come about? Again, entrance is based on (and always has been) user recommendations. Users in the section get to know other users on the board and develop a rapport with one another. At any time, a member in those sections can initiate a poll which is voted on and discussed by the section to determine whether or not the member is admitted.

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Originally Posted by MrVictorRivers

Inspite of the fact that several such sections exists....I dont know them to exist...and even so...they are secret...unless against rules/regulations of individuals at FST, I don't see why there cant be another.

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Why would we need another? :blink:

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Originally Posted by znik

Hardly ever any invite is offered and even these are not even picked up, since these trusted senior members do not idle there to get invites, but rather to talk freely and safely without all these spammers in the their feet, know each other better and of course help each other if someone has a problem with something.

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sounds good, someone in there vouch for me!!!!

I don't see why you would need another section...sounds like it would end up being the same type of thing as the invites section we already have...

....I feel like you may be taking this personal...this isn;t directed at you or anyone...Until about 3 or four hours ago, I went to bed, got up, did some thinking, and got back online....

Why the need for another? first let me preface, I dont know anything about these two existing "secrect/notsecret" sections. I cant say whether they are what I envisioned or not. and to the extent that I said create anohter....that was a misnomer on my part....


but....from my perspective, I wanted to help others without the immediate risk of dealing with cheaters/scammers/etc. I was interested in developing a more communal environment here at fst (in part born out of my own experiences where it seems people are only out for themselves).

A significant number of members expressed interest in starting (or atleast trying to start) a sub community here on fst. They were responding to a thread I started a week ago.

When I put the idea out to everyone...I found out that something that MAY be similar is already in existence. I even inquired of skizo in PM wat is involved in the process, and i was told, "...dont ask me, we'll ask you...."

(again i dont know anything about this place and its possible its not what i was thinking about)


here is the problem: I, as well as other members have expressed an interest in starting something...find out that there MAY be something similar already in existence...but are told a group of people have to pick you and you have to wait (potentially indefinitley) until u r picked....there is no transparency in the process...dont even know whats invovled in the process...when it takes place...who is involved...whats what...whso is who...nothing....its like a ball thats in motion that has developed momentum, and people are saying stop....its on the move....

@ MrVictorRivers

what do you personally expect from such a subforum? what are your personal benefits from this?

Well, I'm sure he would appreciate a response in the lines of "you don't need this, here's your invite to the ATG".

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Originally Posted by Polarbear

@ MrVictorRivers

what do you personally expect from such a subforum? what are your personal benefits from this?

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i dont see how that is germane to the point? explain how it is and i dont' mind answering at all.


LOOK: if you are not interested in starting or contributing what difference does it make to you what someone else does anyway?

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Originally Posted by aysomc

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Originally Posted by znik

Hardly ever any invite is offered and even these are not even picked up, since these trusted senior members do not idle there to get invites, but rather to talk freely and safely without all these spammers in the their feet, know each other better and of course help each other if someone has a problem with something.

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sounds good, someone in there vouch for me!!!!

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don't ask for it, we will ask you

remember what skizo just said ;)

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Originally Posted by MrVictorRivers

When I put the idea out to everyone...I found out that something that MAY be similar is already in existence. I even inquired of skizo in PM wat is involved in the process, and i was told, "...dont ask me, we'll ask you...."

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I also told you exactly what was involved and answered your question entirely. Let's try not to make me sound so obtuse when that's not how the conversation went. :dabs:

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Originally Posted by MrVictorRivers

here is the problem: I, as well as other members have expressed an interest in starting something...find out that there MAY be something similar already in existence...but are told a group of people have to pick you and you have to wait (potentially indefinitley) until u r picked....there is no transparency in the process...dont even know whats invovled in the process...when it takes place...who is involved...whats what...whso is who...nothing....its like a ball thats in motion that has developed momentum, and people are saying stop....its on the move....

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It's meant to be like that. We don't want members aiming to be part of the section and heckling me, other mods, and VTG members to "get them in", as that's exactly what happens. For the sake of discretion and my Inbox, we don't advertise it either. There's no point in doing so no one is going to talk their way into the section.

Also, making it blatantly obvious may make some members act a certain way strictly to gain access to one of those sections. That is not something we want or would ever let happen.

We tried it before to let it be known and you couldn't imagine how many PM's I had; it was absurd. Half the Invites section had PM'd me by the following day.

There are a few details which are secret which I won't reveal and that only mods know about the section; such as what percentage of positive votes one must attain to be voted in. Those details are kept quiet so as not to alter the voting, etc.

Basically, the section isn't a secret and we don't try to keep it as such, and advertising it has only disadvantages.

New 'elite invite' section is not needed...

another elite shit .. do you think your friends hides in some uber secret sub section of a forum .?

you can find them everywhere .. you dont need to go to a subsection of a forum to give your friend an invite

i don't think there is need for a new elite invite section but i do think we should add a minimum amount of posts until usres can enter the invite section. I also think that the wiaw thread should be in the main bittorent section also so noobs can learn the lvls before they join the invite section, that way that don't make posts like demenoid for ftn and so on.....

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Originally Posted by Totti

i do think we should add a minimum amount of posts

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Probably a good idea...

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Originally Posted by arkiebrian

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Originally Posted by Totti

i do think we should add a minimum amount of posts

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Probably a good idea...

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so that we can see more squirr3l 's ? :ermm:

lol what's the problem with a person who likes to type allot :)

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Originally Posted by blackbird

so that we can see more squir3lls ? :ermm:

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I'm a noob I suppose...

Squirrels as in 'storing their nuts for the winter?'

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Originally Posted by arkiebrian

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Originally Posted by blackbird

so that we can see more squir3lls ? :ermm:

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I'm a noob I suppose...

Squirrels as in 'storing their nuts for the winter?'

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lol he's a user here

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Originally Posted by Totti

lol what's the problem with a person who likes to type allot :)

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expect people to spam to increase the post count :mellow:

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Originally Posted by Totti

i don't think there is need for a new elite invite section but i do think we should add a minimum amount of posts until usres can enter the invite section. I also think that the wiaw thread should be in the main bittorent section also so noobs can learn the lvls before they join the invite section, that way that don't make posts like demenoid for ftn and so on.....

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We used to have a minimum post count and the pneubs would just spam the fk out of the whole forum. Bad idea.

I created this thread to help give the noobs an idea of what trackers they want go for, prior to entering the Invites section in hopes that they wouldn't engage in so much arbitrary trading just to see what certain trackers offer. In theory, they could view that thread and and decide what tracker interests them before even entering the Invites section. The WTAW is part of the whole trading thing and will remain in that section.

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Originally Posted by blackbird

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Originally Posted by Totti

lol what's the problem with a person who likes to type allot :)

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expect people to spam to increase the post count :mellow:

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could be but it's still worth a try..........

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Originally Posted by MrVictorRivers

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Originally Posted by SgtMajor

There's already 2 secret sections for that purpose, when you know the right person of either section, depending upon your history, you might get invited to one or the other.

Is there really room for another elite section to serve your purpose, an elite invites section? I very much doubt it.

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never knew they existed...

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neither did I, sounds interesting ;)
i guess it's not that secret anymore :P

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Originally Posted by Totti

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Originally Posted by blackbird

expect people to spam to increase the post count :mellow:

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could be but it's still worth a try..........

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No, no it isn't.

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Originally Posted by AnesZverotic

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Originally Posted by MrVictorRivers

never knew they existed...

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neither did I, sounds interesting ;)
i guess it's not that secret anymore :P

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It isn't meant to be or I would have trashed this thread from the start.

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Originally Posted by MrVictorRivers

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Originally Posted by Polarbear

@ MrVictorRivers

what do you personally expect from such a subforum? what are your personal benefits from this?

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i dont see how that is germane to the point? explain how it is and i dont' mind answering at all.


LOOK: if you are not interested in starting or contributing what difference does it make to you what someone else does anyway?

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i just asked you two simple questions you can't or don't want to answer.