My random thoughts of the day

Thought 1:

Aren't all these giveaways and then requests for invites just trading? Think about it. If you have sex with a hooker, that is illegal in 49 US states, but if you buy a woman dinner and then sleep with her, it's legal. What's the difference? The means = money, the ends = sex. Trading and giveaways are basically the same thing in this respect.

Thought 2:

The anti traders and traders are really cute. It's like an intergalactic space battle between 2 rival worlds out of boredom.

Thought 3:

Some people here who request trackers seem really demanding and annoying. Reading their threads they have the idea they are entitled to some tracker since they asked. Most people on the other hand seem really desperate which is annoying. Only a small amount of people do it just right.

you are right my friend ;]

And i thought, by the looks, that this was another Ftn request...

:shifty:

I like that part of the hooker, hope she takes U "around the world".......LMAO

wrong section, but i must agree

Don't discourage people from making giveaways. These giveaways have helped me out a lot

I agree with you bbnap.

I think it's kind of funny how desperate people are for an invite.

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Originally Posted by bbnap

Thought 1:

Aren't all these giveaways and then requests for invites just trading? Think about it. If you have sex with a hooker, that is illegal in 49 US states, but if you buy a woman dinner and then sleep with her, it's legal. What's the difference? The means = money, the ends = sex. Trading and giveaways are basically the same thing in this respect.

Thought 2:

The anti traders and traders are really cute. It's like an intergalactic space battle between 2 rival worlds out of boredom.

Thought 3:

Some people here who request trackers seem really demanding and annoying. Reading their threads they have the idea they are entitled to some tracker since they asked. Most people on the other hand seem really desperate which is annoying. Only a small amount of people do it just right.

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Amen!!! :angel1: That deserves a rep!

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Originally Posted by bbnap

Aren't all these giveaways and then requests for invites just trading? Think about it. If you have sex with a hooker, that is illegal in 49 US states, but if you buy a woman dinner and then sleep with her, it's legal. What's the difference? The means = money, the ends = sex. Trading and giveaways are basically the same thing in this respect.

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I agree with you :yup::yup:
but that's why i love FST :fst::fst:

invites is like sex: it's better when it's free :naughty::naughty:

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Originally Posted by bbnap

Thought 1:

Aren't all these giveaways and then requests for invites just trading? Think about it. If you have sex with a hooker, that is illegal in 49 US states, but if you buy a woman dinner and then sleep with her, it's legal. What's the difference? The means = money, the ends = sex. Trading and giveaways are basically the same thing in this respect.

Thought 2:

The anti traders and traders are really cute. It's like an intergalactic space battle between 2 rival worlds out of boredom.

Thought 3:

Some people here who request trackers seem really demanding and annoying. Reading their threads they have the idea they are entitled to some tracker since they asked. Most people on the other hand seem really desperate which is annoying. Only a small amount of people do it just right.

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:shutup: i will try to keep it short.
Thought 1:
First of all i will refer to your example since i see it makes people relate to the subject :lol:.
You are wrong in some things you said: You pay the hooker (aka inviter) and you get sex (invite/account). There are some bad things that can happen to it like you lose your account/invite and the money you spent because it gets disabled (crabs/HIV...), so nothing is perfect.
You invite a nice woman to a dinner (have a giveaway), i don't know in what utopia you live, but it doesn't necessary mean you'll get laid (invited back somewhere you want :naughty:). Maybe the person just feels good or generous (likes to share his food with good people :D) and has no ulterior motive.
There are some more dangers when having a giveaway such as the inviter being a cheater (well just image a horrible blind date :happy:). So what i am saying people who giveaway don't always (expect to) get something in return, and have different reasons of doing so other that greed :yup:.

Thought 2: I think the fight is silly indeed. I personally don't hate traders, but rather tracker collectors.
Confucius said: "Man with one watch always know exactly what time it is....man with two watches never quite sure."

Thought 3: Agree 110%, experienced it firsthand, yet i still keep up the giveaways since there are lots of good people out there who like to help others and i think the make it worthwhile.

Just my 2c (though it looks more like a buck but let it be :P)

wow... great Mayhem. you are good man...

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Originally Posted by Mayhem

You are wrong in some things you said: You pay the hooker (aka inviter) and you get sex (invite/account). There are some bad things that can happen to it like you lose your account/invite and the money you spent because it gets disabled (crabs/HIV...), so nothing is perfect.
You invite a nice woman to a dinner (have a giveaway), i don't know in what utopia you live, but it doesn't necessary mean you'll get laid (invited back somewhere you want :naughty:). Maybe the person just feels good or generous (likes to share his food with good people :D) and has no ulterior motive.
There are some more dangers when having a giveaway such as the inviter being a cheater (well just image a horrible blind date :happy:). So what i am saying people who giveaway don't always (expect to) get something in return, and have different reasons of doing so other that greed :yup:.

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I welcome your 2 cents :)

Usually, unless you are Casanova, you have to go out on more than 1 date. Case study: MrLazy had to give out lots of food to get laid just once. It did seem the chick didn't want to put out at all though for many days after asking. On the other hand you can't pay this woman for sex. If you show me a guy who doesn't buy a woman dinner to get laid, I will show you a real live unicorn. We're talking about guys here and sex :P Case study: SgtMajor seemed like a completely altruistic guy but recently he wanted to get laid. Since you were talking in analogies I came up with one just for fun. Giving out food and then getting laid leads to the girl being attached to you and she could turn into a crazy stalker. I bet MrLazy has people pm him for FTN invite requests.

If we keep up with the analogies, this place could turn into prison with the drug trade. Traders will be asking for level 9 sex in threads :P

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Originally Posted by bbnap

If you show me a guy who doesn't buy a woman dinner to get laid, I will show you a real live unicorn.

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lol umm im no Casanova or whoever but I have never bought dinner for sex, I dont need to. NO I dont have women crawling at my feet but it doesnt take a rocket scientist to get laid for nothing, and no theyre not trash either. Show me my unicorn!

I agree with you

If you can say prostitution and a relationship are really the same thing, you are just.. wrong.

Prostitution (trade) is a situation, where people just want that they want, and they have something someone else wants. They have an "even" trade, they don't really ask questions, they don't care about anything other than getting what they want. It doesn't matter who the person is as long as they provide.

For a date, you wouldn't go out with just anyone.. you pick someone you'd best like to date, someone you think is "qualified" to date you. You don't have to buy them dinner, you want to... same with giveaways. Typically questions are asked (ratio proofs/speed test/etc), you kind of get to know the person before you invite them to a site.

In general that makes giveaways a lot safer, because at least you make an attempt to make sure you're not inviting a cheater. How often do people who trade ask for screen shots or ask why they want to be invited?

Furthermore, who's more likely to get an STD (a bad invitee), a man who sleeps with a prostitute or someone who's dating a girl he's gotten to know a little bit.

Here's another idea:
Traders get upset when they don't get the invite/account from the other person they sent their stuff to.
Giveaway-ers get upset when they look at their invitees and someone doesn't have a good ratio.
That is a huge difference.

It's a great analogy, except it works against you.
The next girl you take out to dinner, (although it doesn't seem like you really have any skills with women :whistling) - tell her your theory about how she's basically a "legal" prostitute.. see how that goes.. ;)

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Originally Posted by Grind$oFine

It's a great analogy, except it works against you.
The next girl you take out to dinner, (although it doesn't seem like you really have any skills with women :whistling) - tell her your theory about how she's basically a "legal" prostitute.. see how that goes.. ;)

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Thank you for insulting me in what I hoped would be a nice discussion thread. I wish more people could be mature like Mayhem.

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Originally Posted by bbnap

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Originally Posted by Grind$oFine

It's a great analogy, except it works against you.
The next girl you take out to dinner, (although it doesn't seem like you really have any skills with women :whistling) - tell her your theory about how she's basically a "legal" prostitute.. see how that goes.. ;)

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Thank you for insulting me in what I hoped would be a nice discussion thread. I wish more people could be mature like Mayhem.

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It was a joke, I didn't mean it in an offensive way at all. And I truly thought my post contributed swimmingly to your discussion, even despite my joke... that was hardly the core importance in what I said.

P.S. I wish I was mature like Mayhem, too. :D

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Originally Posted by Mayhem

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Originally Posted by bbnap

Thought 1:

Aren't all these giveaways and then requests for invites just trading? Think about it. If you have sex with a hooker, that is illegal in 49 US states, but if you buy a woman dinner and then sleep with her, it's legal. What's the difference? The means = money, the ends = sex. Trading and giveaways are basically the same thing in this respect.

Thought 2:

The anti traders and traders are really cute. It's like an intergalactic space battle between 2 rival worlds out of boredom.

Thought 3:

Some people here who request trackers seem really demanding and annoying. Reading their threads they have the idea they are entitled to some tracker since they asked. Most people on the other hand seem really desperate which is annoying. Only a small amount of people do it just right.

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:shutup: i will try to keep it short.
Thought 1:
First of all i will refer to your example since i see it makes people relate to the subject :lol:.
You are wrong in some things you said: You pay the hooker (aka inviter) and you get sex (invite/account). There are some bad things that can happen to it like you lose your account/invite and the money you spent because it gets disabled (crabs/HIV...), so nothing is perfect.
You invite a nice woman to a dinner (have a giveaway), i don't know in what utopia you live, but it doesn't necessary mean you'll get laid (invited back somewhere you want :naughty:). Maybe the person just feels good or generous (likes to share his food with good people :D) and has no ulterior motive.
There are some more dangers when having a giveaway such as the inviter being a cheater (well just image a horrible blind date :happy:). So what i am saying people who giveaway don't always (expect to) get something in return, and have different reasons of doing so other that greed :yup:.

Thought 2: I think the fight is silly indeed. I personally don't hate traders, but rather tracker collectors.
Confucius said: "Man with one watch always know exactly what time it is....man with two watches never quite sure."

Thought 3: Agree 110%, experienced it firsthand, yet i still keep up the giveaways since there are lots of good people out there who like to help others and i think the make it worthwhile.

Just my 2c (though it looks more like a buck but let it be :P)

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lol....i have put out over a nice dinner before. it was delicious and so was he :)

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Originally Posted by Grind$oFine

If you can say prostitution and a relationship are really the same thing, you are just.. wrong.

Prostitution (trade) is a situation, where people just want that they want, and they have something someone else wants. They have an "even" trade, they don't really ask questions, they don't care about anything other than getting what they want. It doesn't matter who the person is as long as they provide.

For a date, you wouldn't go out with just anyone.. you pick someone you'd best like to date, someone you think is "qualified" to date you. You don't have to buy them dinner, you want to... same with giveaways. Typically questions are asked (ratio proofs/speed test/etc), you kind of get to know the person before you invite them to a site.

In general that makes giveaways a lot safer, because at least you make an attempt to make sure you're not inviting a cheater. How often do people who trade ask for screen shots or ask why they want to be invited?

Furthermore, who's more likely to get an STD (a bad invitee), a man who sleeps with a prostitute or someone who's dating a girl he's gotten to know a little bit.

Here's another idea:
Traders get upset when they don't get the invite/account from the other person they sent their stuff to.
Giveaway-ers get upset when they look at their invitees and someone doesn't have a good ratio.
That is a huge difference.

It's a great analogy, except it works against you.
The next girl you take out to dinner, (although it doesn't seem like you really have any skills with women :whistling) - tell her your theory about how she's basically a "legal" prostitute.. see how that goes.. ;)

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I agree with you except

friendship instead of relationship

Mayhem : +1. Nice confucius quote :)

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Originally Posted by Grind$oFine

The next girl you take out to dinner, (although it doesn't seem like you really have any skills with women :whistling) - tell her your theory about how she's basically a "legal" prostitute.. see how that goes.. ;)

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i can already imagine someone with a shiner :naughty:

If you compare your woman to just a way to get laid, and getting laid with being member on a tracker, then you can never be truly happy getting a tracker. You can also never be happy with any woman.

if you have a giveaway or give them something and then they give you something after because they think you deserve it or might like it then that isnt trading because they could have just as easily not given you anything. their choice to return the favor or not is what makes these much different. same thing with a hooker, she gets paid and then does what shes paid for, the woman taken out to dinner can say no.

among the sensible threads....what a relief from the whining and my-mom-is-gonna-die-I-need-FTN threads.

most people here summed it up, your thought process is that of a 4th grader basically. think about it for more then 5 seconds and you'd realize they are completely different things that just seem similar on the surface. and comparing taking a girl out to dinner with paying for a prostitute is one of the most simple-minded things i have ever heard.

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Originally Posted by aysomc

most people here summed it up, your thought process is that of a 4th grader basically. think about it for more then 5 seconds and you'd realize they are completely different things that just seem similar on the surface. and comparing taking a girl out to dinner with paying for a prostitute is one of the most simple-minded things i have ever heard.

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Ruthless internet aggression over an analogy. That's all I can say.

Why... are we discussing hookers, dinners and unicorns in the invite-section? :huh:


Btw, agreed on your #2 and #3, though ^^