Was it not a gift from the People of France?
Neil.
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Was it not a gift from the People of France?
Neil.
In answer to your original question.
No.
Here are some facts about it.
Yes, and yes....In 6' letters
Technically : YES!
Reason the original artist used a french prostitute as a model. ;)
That would be vandalising a world symbol of freedom.
What would the point of that be ?
It's just a symbol :I hope not THE symbol.(freedom has many meanings)Quote:
Originally posted by JPaul@25 July 2003 - 20:34
That would be vandalising a world symbol of freedom.
What would the point of that be ?
I said a - it is one of the most easily recognised ones.
I say again, why vandalise it.
actually it was a gift from the french government, not the people. the people wanted to keep it for themselves.
Well, actually it does bear this insignia on it, and the letters are about 2 feet high. And like most manufactured objects, the insignia is placed on the base of it.
So all you have to do is tip her up a little on the pedestal and viola! zere et ez.
I sink zis shoed be en ze lounge, no?
No.Quote:
Originally posted by hobbes@25 July 2003 - 22:53
Well, actually it does bear this insignia on it, and the letters are about 2 feet high. And like most manufactured objects, the insignia is placed on the base of it.
So all you have to do is tip her up a little on the pedestal and viola! zere et ez.
I sink zis shoed be en ze lounge, no?
Openly.
and with the camera's watching.
A fresh Hallmark.
Neil
Or are the french traitors after all
Oh how the world has changed.
Neil.
Perhaps my arse should be stamped "Made in America" :P
:blink: What's the point?
Which Earth are you a citizen of, Neil?
Ours
Made in France, assembled in USA.
Is there anything made in the USA?
No.Quote:
Originally posted by Neil__+26 July 2003 - 01:37--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Neil__ @ 26 July 2003 - 01:37)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-hobbes@25 July 2003 - 22:53
Well, actually it does bear this insignia on it, and the letters are about 2 feet high. And like most manufactured objects, the insignia is placed on the base of it.
So all you have to do is tip her up a little on the pedestal and viola! zere et ez.
I sink zis shoed be en ze lounge, no?
Openly.
and with the camera's watching.
A fresh Hallmark.
Neil[/b][/quote]
Why? Please spam and troll elsewhere. Thanks.
Lots of things!Quote:
Originally posted by Spindulik@26 July 2003 - 00:23
Is there anything made in the USA?
(Like me for instance.)
Of course a lot of it's just worthless crap.
(Like me for instance.)
:P
Lots of things!Quote:
Originally posted by tite-wad+26 July 2003 - 08:56--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (tite-wad @ 26 July 2003 - 08:56)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Spindulik@26 July 2003 - 00:23
Is there anything made in the USA?
(Like me for instance.) [/b][/quote]
Well,you are born there.
But were you also made there?
Conceptualized... Conceived... and Delivered... right here in Indiana! http://www.piczonline.com/client/titey/yes.gifQuote:
Originally posted by Ron@26 July 2003 - 02:15
Well,you are born there.
But were you also made there?
Indiana?!!
Isn't that where all the John Sandford books are situated?
:blink: BOOKS? :blink:
Yes, books.
They're a bit like Playboy magazine and Penthouse, but without the pics.
They contain lots of letters and words.
The Statue of Liberty National Monument officially celebrated her 100th birthday on October 28, 1986. The people of France gave the Statue to the people of the United States over one hundred years ago in recognition of the friendship established during the American Revolution. Over the years, the Statue of Liberty has grown to include freedom and democracy as well as this international friendship.
Sculptor Frederic Auguste Bartholdi was commissioned to design a sculpture with the year 1876 in mind for completion, to commemorate the centennial of the American Declaration of Independence. The Statue was a joint effort between America and France and it was agreed upon that the American people were to build the pedestal, and the French people were responsible for the Statue and its assembly here in the United States. However, lack of funds was a problem on both sides of the Atlantic Ocean. In France, public fees, various forms of entertainment, and a lottery were among the methods used to raise funds. In the United States, benefit theatricalevents, art exhibitions, auctions and prize fights assisted in providing needed funds. Meanwhile in France, Bartholdi required the assistance of an engineer to address structural issues associated with designing such as colossal copper sculpture. Alexandre Gustave Eiffel (designer of the Eiffel Tower) was commissioned to design the massive iron pylon and secondary skeletal framework which allows the Statue's copper skin to move independently yet stand upright. Back in America, fund raising for the pedestal was going particularly slowly, so Joseph Pulitzer (noted for the Pulitzer Prize) opened up the editorial pages of his newspaper, "The World" to support the fund raising effort. Pulitzer used his newspaper to criticize both the rich who had failed to finance the pedestal construction and the middle class who were content to rely upon the wealthy to provide the funds. Pulitzer's campaign of harsh criticism was successful in motivating the people of America to donate.
Financing for the pedestal was completed in August 1885, and pedestal construction was finished in April of 1886. The Statue was completed in France in July, 1884 and arrived in New York Harbor in June of 1885 on board the French frigate "Isere" which transported the Statue of Liberty from France to the United States. In transit, the Statue was reduced to 350 individual pieces and packed in 214 crates. The Statue was re-assembled on her new pedestal in four months time. On October 28th 1886, the dedication of the Statue of Liberty took place in front of thousands of spectators. She was a centennial gift ten years late.
The story of the Statue of Liberty and her island has been one of change. The Statue was placed upon a granite pedestal inside the courtyard of the star-shaped walls of Fort Wood (which had been completed for the War of 1812.) The United States Lighthouse Board had responsibility for the operation of the Statue of Liberty until 1901. After 1901, the care and operation of the Statue was placed under the War Department. A Presidential Proclamation declared Fort Wood (and the Statue of Liberty within it) a National Monument on October 15th, 1924 and the monument's boundary was set at the outer edge of Fort Wood. In 1933, the care and administration of the National Monument was transferred to the National Park Service. On September 7, 1937, jurisdiction was enlarged to encompass all of Bedloe's Island and in 1956, the island's name was changed to Liberty Island. On May 11, 1965, Ellis Island was also transferred to the National Park Service and became part of the Statue of Liberty National Monument. In May of 1982, President Ronald Reagan appointed Lee Iacocca to head up a private sector effort to restore the Statue of Liberty. Fundraising began for the $87 million restoration under a public/private partnership between the National Park Service and the Statue of Liberty-Ellis Island Foundation, Inc., to date the most successful such partnership in American history. In 1984, at the start of the Statue's restoration, the United Nations designated the Statue of Liberty as a World Heritage Site. On July 5, 1986 the newly restored Statue re-opened to the public during Liberty Weekend, which celebrated her centennial.
...and I had to queue up for 3 hours to go inside of it and up to the crown, but it was worth every minute, it's an amazing structure! B)
It was a gift from France - (it wasn't meant to be given to the U.S when it was being built) orginally it was suppose to be placed at the enterence of the Nile - but they didn't have enough money - so it was shipped to the U.S in piece ofcourse and assembled here.
I think It's real Bull-shit to spend money and efforts on building and restoring symboles when some people don't have enought to live decently even in the concerned contries: France & Usa. This remind me how Cheaucescu, the former romanian dictator, has starved his people to build the bigest building in Europe.
I was hoping someone would say this :beerchug:Quote:
Originally posted by Neil__@26 July 2003 - 00:39
Or are the french traitors after all
Oh how the world has changed.
Neil.
Ok.
So why doesn't America give it back.
If it's a gift from traitors.
Or at least searct it for Weapons of Mass Distruction.
Neil.
If you want it... come and get it! :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by Neil__@1 August 2003 - 20:29
So why doesn't America give it back.
well see, i'm sure the french would try to stamp it, but stamp it with the incorrect stamp. the statue of liberty would then say "We Surrender".
What's all this nationalistic horse shit about, does anyone see the reality around them?
This has been a war mostly about trade!!!!!! World War 1 = trade war, World War 2 = trade war....and so on and so forth, the fucking revolutionary war was over trade and tax!!!!
France, Germany, Russia, old Europe = euro
America, UK, new Europe(Poland, Spain, any US ally) = dollar/pound
Iraq begins trading oil for euro currency in 1998. Think people, think! Why did George W's father not handle the "regime change" business the first time around?
Would that cause to much trouble in the region, tied to close to the Saudis and Kuwaitis?
Instead, lets make Iraqi torture and oppression worse by establishing a load of bullshit sanctions. Then, a decade later, it's finally cool and acceptable to give a shit about them.
So why this war now? Terrorism? WMD? Are you fucking kidding me!!!!!!!!
WMD, why was UNSCOM not allowed to continue their work? Seems like they were destroying a considerable amount of weapons. Terrorism? Let me tell you about the terrorists, people close to Bin Laden used to cruise around America in fucking limousines!!!!!!!!!
All France and Germany wanted was to continue the UN process. Why?
Just because it would be good for their business? Maybe, or maybe they just didn't want a goddamn lunatic war on their hands. Has anybody posting here ever been to France?
I have, and I remember seeing alot of arabs there, specifically in Paris. Algerians.
You think their politicians don't realize how serious a situation they'd have on their hands if they started attacking an arab country? They were beaten out of Algeria.
And not only that, but whole sections of Paris have been mobbed and rioted in the 90's. Remember the L.A. riot's, well, same thing happened over there, for similar social reasons.
Here's the situation; Bush Co. jury rigged the elections, the 9/11 attacks mysteriously happen, corporate media magically whips naive insecure people into a frenzy of shallow nationalism, war ensues.
Where's France during the last phase of this fucked up process? Minding their own goddamn business, hoping the stupidity of King George's New America falls flat on it's face.
Meanwhile, folks like me(born and raised in America), grow increasingly ill and hostile towards mealymouthed appeaser wannabe patriots!!!!!!!!!!!!
That makes everything clear!? You forgot to answer the question!Quote:
Originally posted by leave no trace@4 August 2003 - 09:38
What's all this nationalistic horse shit about, does anyone see the reality around them?
This has been a war mostly about trade!!!!!! World War 1 = trade war, World War 2 = trade war....and so on and so forth, the fucking revolutionary war was over trade and tax!!!!
France, Germany, Russia, old Europe = euro
America, UK, new Europe(Poland, Spain, any US ally) = dollar/pound
Iraq begins trading oil for euro currency in 1998. Think people, think! Why did George W's father not handle the "regime change" business the first time around?
Would that cause to much trouble in the region, tied to close to the Saudis and Kuwaitis?
Instead, lets make Iraqi torture and oppression worse by establishing a load of bullshit sanctions. Then, a decade later, it's finally cool and acceptable to give a shit about them.
So why this war now? Terrorism? WMD? Are you fucking kidding me!!!!!!!!
WMD, why was UNSCOM not allowed to continue their work? Seems like they were destroying a considerable amount of weapons. Terrorism? Let me tell you about the terrorists, people close to Bin Laden used to cruise around America in fucking limousines!!!!!!!!!
All France and Germany wanted was to continue the UN process. Why?
Just because it would be good for their business? Maybe, or maybe they just didn't want a goddamn lunatic war on their hands. Has anybody posting here ever been to France?
I have, and I remember seeing alot of arabs there, specifically in Paris. Algerians.
You think their politicians don't realize how serious a situation they'd have on their hands if they started attacking an arab country? They were beaten out of Algeria.
And not only that, but whole sections of Paris have been mobbed and rioted in the 90's. Remember the L.A. riot's, well, same thing happened over there, for similar social reasons.
Here's the situation; Bush Co. jury rigged the elections, the 9/11 attacks mysteriously happen, corporate media magically whips naive insecure people into a frenzy of shallow nationalism, war ensues.
Where's France during the last phase of this fucked up process? Minding their own goddamn business, hoping the stupidity of King George's New America falls flat on it's face.
Meanwhile, folks like me(born and raised in America), grow increasingly ill and hostile towards mealymouthed appeaser wannabe patriots!!!!!!!!!!!!
I didn't forget, I simply don't care what is stamped on it. For all I care, it could have MADE IN HELL stamped on it. It is what it is, most every American knows the story behind it, or thinks they know. What difference does changing a label like French Fries to Freedom Fries or MADE IN FRANCE to MADE IN ASS make?!
It makes no difference.
The actual syntax in this thread, the heart of it, is people's delusional misconceptions about France..... the title of this thread is just pretext.
An apologetic question.
But, if it will make any of you feel better, I'll answer the question. And I'll even give it the proper ignorant spin. But, please allow me to start the theard over with my own spin.
Should we needlessly alter some shit on The Statue of Liberty?
Yes, of course. We should change the label, it must say; MADE IN THE HEARTLANDS OF AMERICA, BY GOD!
And we shouldn't stop there, we need to paint it red, white, and blue, top to bottom.
On her back, the words; FUCK FRANCE must be inscribed in old English.
Verily, she needs to be bigger. Fatter around the middle, we must make her obese.
On her tablet the words; Go forth, kill your enemys and suck my clit, bitch!
Last but not least, we shall replace the stone torch with an actual giant flamethrower, a pipeline running straight from Alaska to her will provide a nonstop flow of fuel.
She'll be badass man, watch out!!!!
well.. that might be a little over the top normally... but I kinda like it!
When do we start?
I've already started, it's my idea! Now I'm going to copyright it, publish it and join the RIAA!
And, I'm having second thoughts on all this WE business.
In fact, I'm going to no-bid contract out the work to illegal Iraqi immigrants.
Construction begins July 4th 2004.
WW2 was a trade war?
I must have missed that day in class.
I was with you 'most' of the way untill you mentioned the RIAA.Quote:
I've already started, it's my idea! Now I'm going to copyright it, publish it and join the RIAA!
Perhaps you should follow a career in politics, or start a new religion?
No perhaps not, I think you're to open and honest with your thoughts.
School is back in session and you've got keys to the digital library.Quote:
WW2 was a trade war?
I must have missed that day in class
Search engine tips;
Trade embargo Japanese economy WW2
WW1 WW2 Germany arms race global finance banking
to much to list, but the info is out there
Japan didn't enter WWII until 1941. WWII began 1939.
WWI was more about secret treaties and leftover imperialism than trade. It was bound to happen sooner or later.
:ninja:
Was it not 'Made in Taiwan' ?:D