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to ban whole country coz of 10 or 100 fac* bad user or
cheaters or what ever they are i dont c it fair in every singel
country u will find a cheater or lazy ass there beside its relly
humiliation plus u could lose account with a huge buffer that
made with hard work and u find out at the end its gone coz of
some one else :cry: i just noob but why the staff of trackers just
ban the cheaters and keep the goods i relly cant understand
this every where has the good and the bad as well
I would say that if a site is banning a whole countrys ip range it would be beacuse a very high percentage of the people in that country cheats or similiar. Thus giving the site a lot of work to do, which they prevent by banning the whole countrys ip range.
Which for the good users suck. But which sites do this?
People from the same environment share same behavior, when the staff find out that 50% of a certain country are cheaters then it's fucking so fair to ban the whole country..
No its not fair at all m8,i also dont understand why some tackers doing that..like u said its very simple to ban that user who cheate but not the whole country..
if u scare that u will lose your acc somewhere talk to the staff there and if they see that u are good member then im sure they will not ban your or someone else acc.
u could also said what tracker is it?
i bet in ur country cheaters too its just nothing to do with the whole countrys i belive and its still not good reason to ban the good partQuote:
Originally Posted by spark
Not in my country. :happy:Quote:
Originally Posted by supper
its not just one tracker i am talking in generalQuote:
Originally Posted by Forumas
u dreaming:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by PrestoNot in my country. :happy:Quote:
Originally Posted by supper
No..Quote:
Originally Posted by supper
Ofcourse there are cheaters in every country. But apparently not enough ones in spark's country, beacuse his country is not banned.Quote:
Originally Posted by supper
it seems israeli and polish people are like 1 of 2 people is a cheater. Of course it's ok to ban the whole country ,why keep them and hurt your tracker. And then you can do like sct did, alowing people to join irc and if your account is ok you'll get reenabled
well i hope all the trackers do the same but there is some trackers just ban u with out questions and what about the good users of those countrys why thay test the same result coz of something thay never didQuote:
Originally Posted by dragos
The sct way seems the best solution atm, but many trackers don't bother with so much work; all that checking accounts, reenabling... banning the whole country is just a lot easier :dabs:
yeah, they're all just a bunch of brainless clones :EQuote:
Originally Posted by spark
So, you would define you self as a good user?
good ratio .active download and upload. active in forum .good speed internet conaction . no cheat no spam what the good user could be more then that:(Quote:
Originally Posted by TranceLover
what about trading?Quote:
Originally Posted by suppergood ratio .active download and upload. active in forum .good speed internet conaction . no cheat no spam what the good user could be more then that:(Quote:
Originally Posted by TranceLover
the best one in it
he is the leader of us :lol:
what about asskissers and tradeing in other unknow forums and acting here like anti traders to get a free invites?Quote:
Originally Posted by sparkwhat about trading?Quote:
Originally Posted by supper
tradeing or anti traders its not the god damn topic here i am talking about why the trackers ban whole countrys coz of some cheaters this is the topic so there is nothing to do here about trading or not if u wanna make a damn post then make sure its belong to the original topic:dabs: trackers dont ban countrys coz of tradeing
Who? supper? No way! he's Mr. Anti :PQuote:
Originally Posted by 0110
Nice speech :lol: ok, np..Quote:
Originally Posted by supperwhat about asskissers and tradeing in other unknow forums and acting here like anti traders to get a free invites?Quote:
Originally Posted by spark
tradeing or anti traders its not the god damn topic here i am talking about why the trackers ban whole countrys coz of some cheaters this is the topic so there is nothing to do here about trading or not if u wanna make a damn post then make sure its belong to the original topic:dabs:
It might not be fair. But considering the amount of users from Israel that cheat i understand that trackers decide to ban the entire countries.
On some large trackers its would they would have to spend several hours everyday to see if the users are cheating. So when you have spent countless hours banning users, then you see the trend is that more cheaters are joining that you can ban. You might get sick an tired. And it have to be accepted behavior to cheat in Israel. So if its generally accepted by most of the torrent users they should not get pissed when they get banned. And since most ips down there have dynamic ip its hard to ban them. Since they just DC for 2 hours then get a new ip and a new invite and start all over again with the cheating.
That being said, it have to suck when you are a user that actually follow the rules.
good post but thats mean thay ban the whole countrys coz thay get bored of checking the whole users statments what about the user himself when he trying to get seedbox or waiting for new torrent file to seed to make good ratio etc... this is could be bored too:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheffy
no its not fair at all, but this site do many other "non-fair things lol" p2l and invites seller :P
:lol::lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by sparkNo..Quote:
Originally Posted by supper
its definatly not a fair thing to do....but life itself is not fair either.
the funny thing is that PT banned now all israelis :frusty:Quote:
Originally Posted by dragos
i guees pretty soon downrev gonna ban all polish ppl :01:
Which Polish people actually care about downrev? Freak!Quote:
Originally Posted by zedexthe funny thing is that PT banned now all israelis :frusty:Quote:
Originally Posted by dragos
i guees pretty soon downrev gonna ban all polish ppl :01:
supper
i want ask you what is name ur country ?
and give us name tracker make ban ip range
most trackers, online gaming sites, gamble sites, even money transfer services block the same countries.
they don't do that because they don't like the countries or think all users from those countries are bad.
they do it to protect their sites.
they have statistics. those statistics prove that 95% of all cheater always come from the same countries.
when you have a country with a cheater ratio of 85% or even higher, you blackhole filter it - period.
if you are a good user from a country that is banned, you shouldn't blame the tracker, but the mentality of your countrymen when it comes to usage of online services such as bittorrent.
on a side note: people who break tracker rules all the time and throw away or trade accounts like bad apples shouldn't really demand any "fairness" from the tracker side.
This thing is going on mostly against Israeli users, many sites block Israeli IPs, from TB (all Israeli IPs) to BitMe\TV (most of them, I need to change my IP for a million times till I manage to get in there!), and even more sites...
What can we do? is life fair? :(
nope is not, .il are well know cheaters, rulebreakers, since the start of the internet. Not only on torrent sites but on fxpboards and everything related, they alway fuck it up. Is not about speed, is they nature and not im not an antisemith im talking only about internet, i know a lot of israelis and they most are good people, i even spend part of my life on a jew school, but whe we talk about internet, they dont respect anything. I remember that they use to have a forum dedicated to develop cheat clients on emule torrent dcc etc lion something and most of the cheaters used to come from there
why do you think they do it?Quote:
Originally Posted by DyNast
well we havnt banned whole countries yet, but we were/are close, we have banned a couple of IP ranges in Brazil, but we cant ban the country because one of our staff members is from Brazil.
for us it was Brazil and then Israel for cheaters, we even had an uploader from Israel who was cheating on his own uploads, as well as 99% of his invite tree. Mad.
The bottom line is, if they do ban your country there isnt that much you can do about it, and its the staffs decision.
When we used to open signups, and this is no lie, 80% would be from brazil 79% of those would cheat, 10% would be multi accounts, 9% cheaters from other countries 1% users that we wanted.
Its just not worth opening up anymore, as its a lot of work for the staff when we do.
well said but my question is why they dont keep the good and ban the bad it will be atleast fair !Quote:
Originally Posted by Polarbear
btw i am not from somalia :D i dont think where i am from its dose not matter and i cant say where i am from atm coz security issues:happy:
You post in FST from the pentagon? O:
Can not you guess? there is no good! :lol: 0.0000001% is neglectableQuote:
Originally Posted by supper
:lol::lol::lol:something like that its coz i am a trader thats all any way i gusse so many ppl now already know;)Quote:
Originally Posted by DyNast
I used to play a multiplayer online game and it's quite interesting, that most of the cheaters came from the same countries, that are also notorious in the torrent world.
How should I know? they say because there are cheaters here, because of account hijacks (wtf? if the accounts hijacks problem was that big, I don't believe a simple IP block would magically finish it)Quote:
Originally Posted by Polarbearwhy do you think they do it?Quote:
Originally Posted by DyNast
to be honest, you can't really know why, and I don't think that's right to ban the whole country for this, there are many, really, a lot of users in Israel that are not cheaters\account hijackers or something like that...
But, well... what can I do about that? they don't give a shit
pm any tracker staff and ask them did u or did u not ban ppl from the same country u live in and post the replay here conanQuote:
Originally Posted by sparkCan not you guess? there is no good! :lol: 0.0000001% is neglectableQuote:
Originally Posted by supper
And what does this have to do with your question? :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by supperpm any tracker staff and ask them did u or did u not ban ppl from the same country u live in and post the replay here conanQuote:
Originally Posted by spark
We have 0.0000000000001% cheaters
You have 0.00000000000001% good users
Is it clear now?
ok, 1 or 2 cheaters from the same country is fine we expect that, even 100-300 is collateral damage.
but when you open signups, and you get 5000 new members in less than 24 hours, and 4500 of those are from the same country, and then 4300 of them cheat. Its time to start banning IP Ranges and Countries im afraid.
like i said before though, we havnt banned any country, we are just never going to open again (thats not just for the cheaters though)
just imagine you have a vegetable store.Quote:
Originally Posted by supperwell said but my question is why they dont keep the good and ban the bad it will be atleast fair !Quote:
Originally Posted by Polarbear
btw i am not from somalia :D i dont think where i am from its dose not matter and i cant say where i am from atm coz security issues:happy:
you get good fruits and vegetables from many countries.
there's one country that always sends you boxes of rotten tomatos.
so you change your dealer from that country, but again, boxes full of rotten tomatos.
now do you keep buying tomatos from that country and open every single box hoping to find a good tomato?
i don't think so.