i really miss the free leech during christmas time :(
why must stuff come out now worth downloading? :(
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i really miss the free leech during christmas time :(
why must stuff come out now worth downloading? :(
well its not up to trackers when will some movie,game or anything be released,also there was pretty much good torrent to download when sites have freeleech on holidays and also somesite still have freeleech:)Quote:
Originally Posted by disconny
ratio is fair!
if you want something , you have to give something...
I agree, ratio system is obsolete, trackers should only care Hit and runnersQuote:
Originally Posted by disconny
and have a mininum bw for entrance (100mbit up? 1 gbit up? you name it) :)Quote:
Originally Posted by EmperatorI agree, ratio system is obsolete, trackers should only care Hit and runnersQuote:
Originally Posted by disconny
Yup, freeleech should be permanent, ratios suck.
Promotions, staff positions, invites, access to site info etc etc etc should be given to those that give back though, so if you leech you get no benefits except the file, if you share you get all the benefits the site offers.
I think most average users only want the file but if they go with freeleech, if any of those average users would ever want something from the site, promotion, invite, etc., they would of have already dug quite a deep hole in the ratio pool and most likely not be able to come back to 1:1Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtMajor
Ratios do suck but if every site were freeleech then many people with private trackers would do what they do now with public trackers which is leech and go leaving hardly any seeders and the download speeds would drastically decrease. People would actually start turning off their computers more often because they wouldn't have to leave them on day and night anymore.
nooooooooo, private trackers will become mininova.. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtMajor
just let the people leech and if they run with the file, ban them
All things are easy to overcome if you put your mind to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by elcapitanI think most average users only want the file but if they go with freeleech, if any of those average users would ever want something from the site, promotion, invite, etc., they would of have already dug quite a deep hole in the ratio pool and most likely not be able to come back to 1:1Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtMajor
It's all about choice, if you wish to participate in what each site has to offer, then give back what you take, if all you want is the file, then fine.
Just make sure when you make your choice, you make the right choice, just as there are those that H&R, there are just as many overseeders, it balances out quite well if you do the maths, so the overseeders can feed the H&R all day for me :)
ratio system is stupid.
i though it would be better to have something like: "you uploaded more than 30GB this month, you now have freeleech for 4 days, you seeding X torrents for 1 week, you now get 6GB of upload credit" etc.. a reward system.
i like the "bitz" system (on bitHQ) where you gain bitz and you can trade them in for MB's. i got 10GB of upload credit cause of the bitz i got by seeding. its great :)
I think ftn has it right. No global ratio, only upload. But on individual torrents, you can see your ratio, and seed time to find hit and runners. They do not seem to have any issues keeping seeders...
Unfortunately, if there was no ratio system implemented on torrent sites, too many people would H&R and never seed back.
Removing the ratio is possible, but only for some servers.
On other servers it would only end up with tons of hit and runners.
Imagne TL or revett going freeleech.
I thought is was only necessary a new script that detects H&R
rvt opinion would be great.
I got a complex idea, but hear me out:
What would happen f your ratio determined seeding time instead of your connection speed. 0.2 ratio = seed for 14 days 0.3 = 13 days, and so on. If you don't seed to this time requirement, your stats are counted and change your ratio, if you do seed the time req, your stats are either counted at 1:1 for UL/DL or just not counted at all. So like, if you get an old file, you can seed for awhile, without fear of lowered ratio.
The thing is that UL/DL speeds for people aren't usually symmetrical, and then people can't d/l what they want until FL.
well i suggested this on Blackcats months ago, get rid of ratio, and just have the hit and runs but you still need to seed over 0.8 even if its with SP. (with the SP mod we dont realy need ratio)
I got shot down in flames though over it with some of the other staff, so i never pursued it any further (it did get very heated let me tell you)
I dont see a whole huge difference with freeleech or without it. You still have to seed back. Is it that your ratio is that close to 1:1 that your scared to grab stuff?
It cant be that hard to create some decent buffers.
if you hate ratio, then use newsgroups lol
If you know me, you know that I do! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by fatcat69
I only use torrents when I can't find it on NGs.
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Originally Posted by disconny
I'm sure this was posted in a fit of pique! Without ratio there would only be chaos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crutavv
trackers without ratio only work cos ppl trust each other there
I like system ratio of BCG. All trackers must it same way.
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Originally Posted by bruckwineI'm sure this was posted in a fit of pique! Without ratio there would only be chaos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crutavv
With bonus to seeding time :)
i like the ratio system, keeps everything balanced in a way, well for everyone except for those few users who dont seed back..
i think ratios are not that bad, they just need to look a bit better
if anyone remembers oink, then he might know what i am talking about
oink applied a sensible ratio system (in my opinion) and cared less about hit an run as long as u have a good ratio which is acceptable in my opinion.
their torrents stayed alive for ages and u can download them at decent speeds.
try any other torrent site, old torrents, speeds killing slow, FTN is a good example.
what helped oink also is their wide user DB and their cheating detection scripts witch where excellent.
so ratios are not bad at all,
oink, come on and see how crap other trackers are. :(
i only got to use the freeleech at SCC...man i missed quite a lot of Freeleech as well.
For Free Leech, it does helps if you're new to the site because you want to build a little buffer before you download big file or packs. Once you have built a little buffer, it shouldn't be hard to use that site as long as you try to seed until it breaks. Even if you get .3 or .5 in return, you still be ok with your global ratio at least 1:1 if you have a buffer on it.
If the main reason why people seed is to get a good buffer, then many old and rare torrent are going to die. Some form of reward need to be given to people who help seed those old files. A seeding bonus system that take this into account should help keep those older torrents alive.
Ratio keeps people honest and weeds out the freeloaders. Only those who keep a good ratio deserve freeleech.
I dislike ratios a lot. Thats why i joined ftn.
I've been brainwashed into the world of ratios. you can save me, with an FTN :w00t:Quote:
Originally Posted by pandabear
You and hundreds of others in here want an invite there crackerjack.
I think you'll be brainwashed a long time
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ratio is an important thing in non 0day trackers
old stuff dies very soon without ratios
ratios is what has kept many a torrent site alive. it brings discipline to users. however, the new systems in some trackers such as iTS and FTN are also extremely effective and i can see more trackers adopting such a system. especially for users like me with a slow home connection, ratios can be hard to keep and such systems are a real bonus.
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Originally Posted by Crutavv
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I love ratios !!!!!!!!!!
i think ratio is good idea for now
also i think in future ratio will be gone on most sites
Ratio he is a good idea, a level of the page is holding it, private trackers after all are basing on ratio, thanks to that there are good speeds!
Ratio = Keeps everyone in line.
I'm on a 128kbps upload speed, and I can keep a ratio so I don't care who you are. U can too.