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I have seen a lot of bull5hit recently and I am tired of certain members pressuring our members here and I don't like it one bit. as far as ITS goes
YOU ARE ALLOWED TO TRADE ITS INVITES
Accts however are still prohibited. Do not let anyone pressure you into believing anything else if you do feel pressured by any member her feel free to PM me and I will work it out for you anonymously. Enough is enough now
and there finally it goes...
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Originally Posted by Detale
nice...i have only to wait for the bonus to excange for an invite :happy:
Just like in real life I have dealt with bullies my whole life and they have NEVER won
uh oh.... Yea people shouldnt be bullied, but i think it's ok to try and prevent traders and such from getting invites
Jon
It's fair... It's not a special tracker so need to be treated like a normal tracker.
i might get criticized for this, but i agree on this kind of measures.
it's very hard to notice which invites are being traded (unlike traded accounts), and at least it gets clear to the community guys that feel/want join iTS.
i dunno why some trackers ban members that are here and are not even trading/giving away. it happened in the past. (i think it's not what iTS is doing, this statement now clears the question).
i really don't think that this community is a "parasite" for trackers, i think it can be a very useful instrument for them, if used in the right way.
unfortunately, i've seen it being used in the wrong ways more often than the good ones. (i.e. take a look at the scl admins here...)
Fair play Detale for putting this straight.
FST is a trading forum wheather some people like to say/believe it or not.
Yes it's better to give, no doubt about that 100%!!
But if someone trades ect... and the tracker in question bans them, well they are gonna learn a lesson and will be wiser in the future and will definitely think hard if they are gonna do it again.
It's amazing a simple iTS "REQUEST" not even a trade turns into a 10 page discussion.
Just my opinion but I'm glad a point has been made.
So now iTS is not for who not trade..Nice..
Well this is a trading forum, I myself do not trade but this one of the reasons for this area and I keep seeing some ITS members telling people that ITS invites are not allowed to be traded and it's propaganda, and some other unscrupulous tactics like this that need to stop.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonny81985
Sorry I don't understand the post please clarifyQuote:
Originally Posted by The Gladiator
Don't get me wrong I will not criticize anyone for their opinion on anything ever as long as it's posted in a respectful manner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabalo
If YOU GUYS the members think I am wrong please let me know, as I said I don't trade so I could care less about my personal torrenting.
I am doing this for YOU GUYS I will protect FST members from things I see as unfit as that is one of my position duties here. I wanted to set the record straight and I have done that but now it's up to you members to let me know how you feel on this matter so I can represent you all better.
Also Cabalo please PM me link of where SCL admins are doing such things I will deal with it accordingly, I am only pointing out ITS due to recent threads I'v read.
No they are for trade invite tradeQuote:
Originally Posted by Kal-El
All tracker invite trade are here by FST and iTS is not an exceptionQuote:
Originally Posted by DetaleSorry I don't understand the post please clarifyQuote:
Originally Posted by The Gladiator
^ i think that is what he meant
I agree with everything you've said Detale. I'm tired of people expecting special treatment for certain sites/trackers. I'm also tired of people spouting off rules that are not FST rules. The whole idea of the invite section breaks most trackers rules, so we really don't need some one posting everytime a tracker rules is broken here, only FST rules matter, as this is FST.
Debate time
I know you saw this coming so ill lay it out for ya:
Invites are allowed to be traded per FST rules....however, tracker rules STRICTLY PROHIBIT INVITE TRADING.
Just so people dont think that iTS supports traders...as obviously we dont! Fst wont allow any tracker to prohibit its invites from being traded here, hell trackers are lucky if they can get their accounts to be blocked from trading ...because every tracker would want it that way and then noone would come here :lol:
however, tracker rules STRICTLY PROHIBIT INVITE TRADINGQuote:
Originally Posted by fatcat69
no one care about it :cool:
i think if us members of iTS dont want traders in there we have every right to let the people trying to trade know that traders get banned and we dont want them there so its a waste of time. that is, however, very different from telling them that trading invites isnt allowed. they can put the trade out there if they want but we're gonna be vocal in letting them know that we wont welcome traders there, thats just being honest. i dont know if thats what is in question here though, do you have a problem with us giving our honest opinion of a trader and how he will do there or do you only have a problem with people telling the member that trading iTS invites isnt allowed on FST?
I said that ITs it's a normal tracker like SCT or other one so it needs to be treated like that. It's restryct because it's new and have a lot of non-traders but it's a tracker like the others :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Detale
I think the problem isn't people giving an opinion like you stated, this is a public forum. But for some one to just post and say 'this is against the rules' or 'you can't trade its' they almost sound as if they are saying its not allowed per FST rules, even if that was not their intent. If their posts were more clear, I doubt anyone would have an issue here with the opinion posts. This post was to clarify that per FST rules, its trading is allowed, nothing more.Quote:
Originally Posted by aysomc
:yup:Quote:
Originally Posted by squirr3lAll tracker invite trade are here by FST and iTS is not an exceptionQuote:
Originally Posted by Detale
^ i think that is what he meant
iTS may seem like a normal tracker as you say but it really is much different because of the users that we have. the huge majority of our members have a lot of respect for trackers and the rules that they have in place, just as fatcat said. so it may seem like most other trackers, but it isnt.
edit: thats what i was thinking tokeman, there shouldnt be a problem with us giving our opinion but it seemed like thats what detale wasnt liking to me, maybe i just read it wrong. as you said though this is a public forum so as long as our posts are civilized we should be able to give our opinion.
Then you shouldn't worry about traders, as they should not receive any offers. And if your right about the userbase, no one will offer the invites for trade. So whats the problem? Let them post away in vein.Quote:
Originally Posted by aysomc
If noone cared then a forum mod wouldnt of had to post a thread like this one to tell people that you can trade any invites here...Quote:
Originally Posted by predateur
However, just like any other community tracker, every single request is posted in a thread on the site, where users are blacklisted. :lol:
So if you request a invite and bring bad publicity...you essentially get yourself banned from getting an invite.
Since the tracker only has 10-15 users that are allowed to get invites...all of which have all your pathetic trade offers already....no invites will ever be traded here.
People can go ahead and request, however you wont get it. Thats the truth...so you should know.
Some people can complain that it is spam or annoying, but I am not personally attacking anyone, I just point out that traders are not welcome in the tracker, I post the current amount of invites out and who has them, and I post reasons why requests for it will just cause invites to become more rare and restricted to even less members. Spam or factual information presented to better inform OP about the current situation of invites and that trading will not get them into the site...:lol:
If you post a trade for FSC or FTN or any other high level tracker...I will say the same thing in there as well. So I do treat it like other trackers, don't think I am just defending iTS.
I personally know each person who has an invite right now and I can assure you that no invi
lol fatcat, you just had to post a pic, i was waiting for it. ;)
who told you i need to get it? see my sign its clear i dont like this tracker ;)Quote:
however you wont get it. Thats the truth...so you should know.
maybe some life , anyway thats what you need ;) (take it easy lol)Quote:
I personally know each person who has an invite right now and I can assure you that no invite will be traded at this time...there is nothing you can offer these users that they dont already have.http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../.....ilies/wink.gif
and you have to know , i have all what i need, am in almost all trackers, and i will continue trading *JUST FOR FUN*.
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Originally Posted by aysomc
i agree, we do have right to let people know that iTS does not welcome traders but then which tracker does welcomes trader anyway?
Plus, FSTer have right to post trade thread as well.
It's not like one or two iTS thread gets over posted...but it's pretty much all of them....filled with nothing.
Don't get me wrong but i think folks are over doing it.
First of all, they create unwanted attention.
Posting "no trader", "you won't get it" etc does nothing but excites people to get in and the result is obvious.
We are seeying 1+ iTS request thread each day; not because of request but the responses request get. I am sure this thread will do hell of a job to give publicity :(
Within VERY short period of time iTS is already lvl 5...people are offering more and more for iTS (i was saying 'wt*' when i saw 'tt+sct for iTS' thead)...i do not think that is what iTS staffer want by any mean.
So the best choice i see is to use "publicity" thread ( in iTS forum ) and let staff handle it.
Well if you are right, you (members of iTS) shouldn't has any problems with the threads that some FST users create asking for iTS invites via trade, because you has the "perfect users" of any tracker, they will never trade, am i right? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by aysomc
you( not personally you) but you (as in all traders)Quote:
Originally Posted by predateur
Lock this thread. pls.
Thats up to the original poster or a mod, not you.Quote:
Originally Posted by mievmo
squirr3l, I could not agree more, you said it better then I did in my reply to that same quote.
ahh that is to bad news for fatcat69
now he cant say no more its dont have traders or its dont allowe trader to be there :D
thanks Deatale for your clarificationQuote:
Originally Posted by Detale
Noone is saying that, I recruit members here all the time, I have given out 15 invites I think through finding members here on FST.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Gladiator
Nearly all of the precious "high level" trackers call FST a sh*t whole and dont like it that much at all, however I disagree as there are good members here and some bad ones. You just have to filter through the lot
The reason why a majority of people are against trading as it is unnecessary and unfair. You are given an account or invite with the intention that you are giving it to a friend or keeping it for yourself (in the account situation), not as a means of barter.
You can get any invite by just participating actively here in the forums...in 1 month I was able to climb all the way to the top of that precious trader "ranking system" Yet I am still here contributing...hell I have given over 10 invites out today alone.
So don't say that iTS is a tracker claiming to be above the rest, or users think they are the best...because that is not the case. Noone is claiming it
iTS is just taking a more proactive approach to prevent invite bartering, as the staff and users feel it is improper. Since it is the staff and users site, they have every right to do with their invites as they please.
I dont understand why certain few members seem to feel the need to interfere with the workings of the tracker, as if they are not part of it, then they have no right to interfere in its business.
No I can and I will as I have every right to warn fellow users that trading their invites from (iTS or ScL or ScT or FSC or FTN or Swedvdr or F***..the list goes on and on)....will result in their account being disabled...they have a right to know! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Forumas
They can ignore me, it is an option here in the forum, as thats what I do when I have an issue with something...that is what you are suppose to do instead of going to a mod with it...I know because thats what the mods told me to do when I have an issue with someone!
Until they get banned.Quote:
Originally Posted by predateurhowever, tracker rules STRICTLY PROHIBIT INVITE TRADINGQuote:
Originally Posted by fatcat69
no one care about it :cool:
I don't trade as Detale, if somebody wants to d oit, iTS, or not, I advise no to, but I'm not God and I don't care if somebody is banned for trade.
But I like to help people, and if there is a risk of being banned because of trade, I just tell them that.
Other way, its easier to get in sharing, so I also advie that some times.
If people don't cares, I can't do anything else and I won't care too, but to be respected, BitTorrent World must respect him too.
:happy:
you have the right the spam traders threads with your B.S ? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by fatcat69No I can and I will as I have every right to. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Forumas
Just as you have the right to add me to your ignore list and not view my posts. If you need help in figuring it out...I can walk you through it! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by predateuryou have the right the spam traders threads with your B.S ? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by fatcat69
well even though you were being sarcastic, yes you are right, the users with invites right now wont ever trade. thats not the main point im making though, im saying we can give our opinion in their threads if we want and although it may be repetitive doing it in all of those threads it just shows the type of users we have, the type of users that will take ridicule from most of the traders here and not mind because its what is best for the tracker. im hoping if we do it enough the traders might catch on and give up since it is a lost cause. they are a simple minded bunch though so its gonna take some time to sink in i think.Quote:
Originally Posted by The GladiatorWell if you are right, you (members of iTS) shouldn't has any problems with the threads that some FST users create asking for iTS invites via trade, because you has the "perfect users" of any tracker, they will never trade, am i right? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by aysomc
And what are your thoughts on the above posts mentioning that these posts are actually drawing more attention to the tracker, which is once again, against their very own rules. It creating hype and demand for it, which is why there are more posts every day.Quote:
Originally Posted by aysomcwell even though you were being sarcastic, yes you are right, the users with invites right now wont ever trade. thats not the main point im making though, im saying we can give our opinion in their threads if we want and although it may be repetitive doing it in all of those threads it just shows the type of users we have, the type of users that will take ridicule from most of the traders here and not mind because its what is best for the tracker. im hoping if we do it enough the traders might catch on and give up since it is a lost cause. they are a simple minded bunch though so its gonna take some time to sink in i think.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Gladiator
Not trying to be an ass, but I would really like to know your view on this.
noQuote:
Originally Posted by The GladiatorWell if you are right, you (members of iTS) shouldn't has any problems with the threads that some FST users create asking for iTS invites via trade, because you has the "perfect users" of any tracker, they will never trade, am i right? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by aysomc
less or more every tracker/community has trader
the only difference is the incentives and circumstances of trade.
Why does not anyone trade revolt? I bet they have trades in there
Why don't we see rabbiter or wheeler or ****r trade often? I garandamnit they also have traders in there
despite being so called "high lvls" above mentioned tracker have ways to catch traded account...which is a big turn off for traders.
iTS also has ways to catch traders however there are plenty of curious heads who want different short of trackers and i am afraid the offer people
make in this forum (because of lvl which itself is hyped) might be good incentive for iTS member to trade :(
It was lot better when iTS was lvl 2 :P
iTS is a very good tracker, it's coming along very nice I have to say.
I'm a member there too but I have no right every time I see an iTS thread to but in and spam it so hence the reason I don't. I have the utmost respect for all trackers as I love torrenting, it's become part of my life.
FST is a trading/sharing forum and members don't need to be "harassed" every time a request is made. Requests should be made, people with the invites should check some history and decide themselves wheather to give the person in question an invite.
As always just my opinion, but that's what we're here for ;)
if it has to be pointed out to a certain member it only has to be done once and not repeated 20 times by other members and by the first member that originaly posted the comment a few more times just to rub it in some more anything after the very first few comments is just spam if the person trading or asking for an invite/account does not want to listen to your warning or help then let it be otherwise it's just shit speaking and worthless comments.
if the person you warned is really interested in how you feel about tradeing or the rules then they will search for your previous comments but for something to be repeated 100s of times to the same person is just plain and simply stupid just because they don't agree with you or care about what you have to say does not mean you have the right to upset other people if you're truly right in what you say then these members breaking the torrent site rules will find out how the shitty end of the stick tastes.
What rules are you talking about? There is not one rule saying you cant post about the tracker in a public forum. Rules only stipulate that you cannot advertise invites or trade them. So technically anyone who actually asks for an invite here...is already breaking the rules...if you must know:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by TokemanAnd what are your thoughts on the above posts mentioning that these posts are actually drawing more attention to the tracker, which is once again, against their very own rules. It creating hype and demand for it, which is why there are more posts every day.Quote:
Originally Posted by aysomc
Not trying to be an ass, but I would really like to know your view on this.
Here are the rules for you to read...if you can find the rule you are talking about please let me know...but I do not see it.
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