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08-01-2003, 02:29 AM
knightowl747

We are Kazza. We are sixty million strong. We are only one of many p2p communities of which there are millions more. The way to screw the RIAA is simple. Everyone should boycott the purchases of their precious copywritten bullshit until they have been forced into bankrupt HELL!! If they want to be greedy, then let them sit on a mountain of unsold shit. From now on, the only way I'll buy recordings is through a second hand music dealer who isnt sharing the profits with the pimps of the music industry. Somehow the RIAA has mistaken us as thieves, when in truth, we have lined their pockets with gold for years everytime we walked into a music store. And I would still be doing this because I do appreciate an original copy with all the extras packaged within. But, no more! They're invading my privacy. They overcharge me at the register. They have insulted my loyalty as a fan of countless bands. They have slandered me as a theif - a law breaking criminal. Everyday I turn on the radio and I listen to these so called illegal copywritten songs provided freely by my local DJ. Everyday I listen these very same songs in mp3 format on my computer. There is no difference here. None. A true musician doesnt write songs for the all mighty dollar. He does it cause it makes him and others feel something about everyday life. This doesnt mean they shouldn't make a living from their skills. I believe they do damn good for something thats pleasurable to them. They make more in a year that most everyone in here wont achieve in their lifetimes. Suing fans who love the songs and share them with each other is shameless. There will without a doubt be more programs developed with better protection and privacy. You can bet someones working on it this very moment. Willpower and determination cannot be crushed. I am not a theif or a pirate. I have made no profit buy selling what I have downloaded. I am listening to songs on an advanced version of radio, where I'm the DJ who chooses his own songs. If they want to fight, then lets show them our numbers are too overwhelming to be stepped on. We are David - They are Goliath. The best way to deal with fear is to kick it square in the nuts. I'm wearing my steel-toed boots! BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT!!!!!!! :angry:
08-01-2003, 02:41 AM
slammy_dunken

What the hell?

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I am not a theif or a pirate.

Another one of those dudes who can't accept the fact that they're breaking the law. You are a pirate. Everytime one of us downloads an MP3, they are stealing something. Everybody on this board is a pirate. Don't deny it.

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I have made no profit buy selling what I have downloaded.

You sell your downloaded material? What kind of person does that?

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The best way to deal with fear is to kick it square in the nuts.

No. That's actually the wuss' way out of fear. Nobody deserves being canned.

Also remember that the artists can choose to stop making new music. When they stop, then the fans don't have any new material to listen to but their old tracks. But if they stop making new music then they won't gain much money but they don't give a fuck because they already have enough money.

And no, boycotting is NOT the best solution. You can do that if you want. I don't have the right to change your mind, but I don't think it's the best solution.
08-01-2003, 02:45 AM
chalkmongoose

And also, before you go even further into madness, let me say that I refuse to join your friggen army of one.
I am not going to boycott the CD industry just because the RIAA is itchy.
Let me give you some facts.
Out of EVERY CD made, the actual artists make a tiny amount of money. Unless you're quite famous, that tiny amount doesn't add to much.
By boycotting the CD industry, you kill off garage bands and indies that can't survive without being slaves to gigantic record labels.
08-01-2003, 02:51 AM
knightowl747

I havent sold shit if i havent made a profit now have I. I have no guilt, cause I havent been sucked into the game their playin. Keep using words like illegal and piracy enough, and people without backbones will certainly start running for hills, screaming the sky is falling. Go ahead. I'll stay where Im at.
08-01-2003, 03:01 AM
knightowl747

Its true they make a tiny portion. If so, then who gets the rest. HMMMM!!!
Garage bands really dont need these assholes anyway, and neither do the ones that are already big names. The should all go independent with their own labels and cut the cd prices in half. They could control their own material. If they did this they make much nore than they do now. Go ahead and buy that cd. The money you spend will into the pockets of the attorneys who will be suing some of the unlucky individuals who won the stick it in your ass RIAA lottery.
08-01-2003, 03:01 AM
slammy_dunken

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Originally posted by knightowl747@31 July 2003 - 20:51
I havent sold shit if i havent made a profit now have I.

Then why did you say that you sold your downloaded material? Profit doesn't have to be a lot of money. You could have sold a pirated CD of Metallica and only earned a penny. That can still count as not making profit, since a CDR costs a dollar and if you sold the CD for a penny, then you earned nothing.

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I have no guilt, cause I havent been sucked into the game their playin.

Um, that's not just you. The majority of the members of this board think the RIAA can't do anything either. We're not scared.

Oh yeah, and boycotting the CD's is still a stupid idea.
08-01-2003, 03:11 AM
chalkmongoose

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Originally posted by knightowl747@1 August 2003 - 03:01
Its true they make a tiny portion. If so, then who gets the rest. HMMMM!!!
Garage bands really dont need these assholes anyway, and neither do the ones that are already big names. The should all go independent with their own labels and cut the cd prices in half. They could control their own material. If they did this they make much nore than they do now. Go ahead and buy that cd. The money you spend will into the pockets of the attorneys who will be suing some of the unlucky individuals who won the stick it in your ass RIAA lottery.

You missed my point by a wide-eyed mile.
Obviously a shite load goes to the RIAA
What I'm saying is that a lot of indies can't get their own labels started, so they have to live on the pennies they make per CD.
Take that away from them, and boom, no indies.
08-01-2003, 04:55 AM
DasScoot

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Originally posted by chalkmongoose@1 August 2003 - 02:45
And also, before you go even further into madness, let me say that I refuse to join your friggen army of one.
I am not going to boycott the CD industry just because the RIAA is itchy.
Let me give you some facts.
Out of EVERY CD made, the actual artists make a tiny amount of money. Unless you're quite famous, that tiny amount doesn't add to much.
By boycotting the CD industry, you kill off garage bands and indies that can't survive without being slaves to gigantic record labels.

Uh...by definition garage bands and indie groups are not part of the RIAA. Meaning if you're boycotting the RIAA, the only thing you would be buying is garage bands and indie groups. And indie groups make a much larger % on every album they sell than RIAA artists do, and garage bands make near 100% profit on every CD they manage to sell.
08-01-2003, 10:47 PM
Map750

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Originally posted by slammy_dunken@1 August 2003 - 02:41

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I have made no profit buy selling what I have downloaded.

You sell your downloaded material? What kind of person does that?

Let's get this straight. By "I have made no profit by selling what I have downloaed" he means he hasn't made a profit because he's NOT selling what he downloaded. Or so I think. That doesn't mean I agree w/ him though.
08-02-2003, 04:12 AM
ModernDaySamson

Gotta Agree with knightowl 110% on that one.....And no offense to the guy that posted that artists can just quit making new songs and we would have to listen to our old tracks...Well since 95 thats all Ive been doing and still enjoy them today.
Cause music hasnt been worth a shit the past few years anyway...I grew up in the 80's...And it will be Rock n Roll and Heavy Metal all the way!!!!! B) B)
08-02-2003, 04:17 AM
chalkmongoose

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Originally posted by DasScoot@1 August 2003 - 04:55
Uh...by definition garage bands and indie groups are not part of the RIAA. Meaning if you're boycotting the RIAA, the only thing you would be buying is garage bands and indie groups. And indie groups make a much larger % on every album they sell than RIAA artists do, and garage bands make near 100% profit on every CD they manage to sell.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/negative11.jpg

Fine, so garage bands that like living in dumpsters...
But Metallica was a garage band once, now they are a whore of the RIAA.
08-02-2003, 04:36 AM
DasScoot

My definition of a garage band is a bunch of friends who play together, do an occasional gig in a local venue, and record and burn their own CDs. What's yours?
08-02-2003, 06:00 AM
rsxtypes

Hey guys...1st post on the boards..just dl K++ and lovin it!!

Anyway my name is Matt and I just wanted to vent about the RIAA assholes:

1st off: We all know what this is about, it's all money, like every friggin thing else. Like they dont have enough.
This is all going in THIER pockets!

Okay but I have a lotta things to say. I am furious about this shit, this country has been draggin around people our age and this is where the line ends!!

As mentioned a gabillion times...lower cd prices to 8 or so $$ and watch the sales skyrocket!!

Most of the people in this country have dial up, you really think they wanna sit there and wait a half hour to dl a damn song?? They have to, cause of the damn prices. Most people aren't rich like you stuck up prick bastards are, so lay the fuck off. Did I mention how much money these so called "artists of music" are makin anyway. Enough to throw up on thats what. Greedy SOB's!!!!

Some more things:

Did they give a flying fuck when it was the early 90's and the whole country was taping songs off the radio and making mix tapes?? NOO!! Did they care when people were copying cassettes?? NOPE!!
Now all of a sudden they caught a bug up there ass and started to harass us!

You stuck up, stiff, rich bastards can go roll in your filthy money!!
Too many people to catch...too many programs....keep dreaming Retards In America Association!!

I think that was well put!!
Time to boycott!!!

RIAA=OWN3D!!!!!! RIAA
08-02-2003, 06:05 AM
rsxtypes

1 more rant sorry lol:

These "artists" are just fuckin pricks. Whats the matter, they couldnt buy their 15th Bentley this year!

The couldnt afford their 26th home..aww poor things. They make too much money as is. All they do is friggin sing. If I got a nickel for everytime I sung in the shower Id have 15 bentleys and 26 houses too!!

Just like f'in actors...they make 2 million to stand in front of a camera and speak!! WOWO!! TALENT EH!!

Look at real peoples jobs:

Cops: putting their lives on the line for people like you and me and make a measly 55 K a year!!
Factory Workers: They do all that work and what do they make??
City Workers: All the work they do and they get shit for a salary....I think you get my drift.

You may respond and say that that is what a capitalist economy is all about(I am by no means against this country or the economy),

but, how much can file-sharing actually take away from their already disgusting profits?? It wont hurt. People have to go buy the cd's to get them on the network anyway!!

So just shut up Retards In America Association
08-02-2003, 08:44 PM
basics

ITS NOT THE SMALL BANDS AND ARTISTS MUSIC THAT THEY ARE PURSUING I SUGGEST U TAKE A DEEPER LOOK INTO THIS SUBJECT
08-03-2003, 02:53 PM
leave no trace

This what I want to tell the RIAA, aligned profiteers and supporters;

It's my computer, these files are mine, how I got them is none of your goddamn business. How I wish to distribute them in this particular community is also none of your business. This is like a tribal city, where most everbody likes to share.
That's the whole point.
I'm not bootlegging Butt Rocker Inc's "copyrighted" track for a profit to some naive fan. And I'm not broadcasting it over the airwaves continuously ten times every motherfucking hour. I'm in a community of consensual give and take, nobody made me join, nobody forces me to share, I give what I want and I take what I want, my choice. If people want what I'm offering, that's their business, I'm not making them take it. And I'm not dictating such and such a price for such and such content to some poor bastard I don't even know!!!!

Look around, money is a fetish.
How much does a computer cost? It depends right, well, they're not as expensive as they once were, but then again, whole populations of people all over the globe can't afford enough food much less a bottom dog pc. And still, you want my miserable 24 cents a song, you want $16.99 for a cd I only want half of, hell, not even half, one third!!!!

And as far as being labelled a pirate, criminal, and thief goes...... prove it.
Did you physically see me nab The DirtyAssFuckers from that $4.89 bin over there?
Did the surveillance camera capture images of me lifting Nasty Nasty Orangutan's new cd Banana's Are For Fuckin' Suckers?
No, I didn't think so.
So, I don't have a copy of that cd for these songs in my house... I borrowed it, I gave it away, I threw it away!!!!
Where's your case against me? Where's the beef!!!!!?

Oh, and I almost forgot, Joe Blow and The 8 Bit Ho's are pulling all records, tapes, and cd's. They're ceasing all production until the arbitration is settled. Hmm, that's too bad seeing as how they were the only music, ever. They were all I ever knew. Without them around it's nothing but atmospheric buzz.
And, they're taking all musical instuments with them so we can't sing and play tribute songs. And they're also taking our brains so we won't create new instruments.
Oh well, truth is, I never liked them any damn way.