Should Acct trades be allowed here?

Now this is something I'm sure we all know is a hot topic, especially since we no longer have Community Reps anymore. I have heard it brought up over and over and sure this poll has been taken before, but I want an up to date view of what our members want and to see what could possibly be done about this. Also I know for some this can become a "heated" topic but make no mistake I will not tolerate ANY hostility in this thread only constructive posts please. I have always been for our members so this is your opportunity to show us what FST members want. It is anonymous so don't worry about anyone finding out how you voted.

No No No No Fuck Trades Nooo

I'm against trading but since Community Reps are no longer valid, it's up to a user's discretion whether or not s/he wants to trade an account. However trading accounts diminishes the spirit of torrenting which is sharing and caring for the community, accounts should not be used as a commodity or barter. Also if accounts get banned due to email/IP change, it harms users both ways.

P.S. Should* (typo on poll, sorry just pointing it out.)

I can't see why not, if invite trading is allowed acc trading should be to.

We all know that is hard to see our invitee trading his acc but the bittorrent world is that nowadays, no one can stop that.

My vote is "Yes"

I'm against account trading because it violates tracker rules. i love my trackers that's why i follow those rules.

those wo don't care about tracker rules and trade accounts will be banned from many sites.

they will catch all account traders sooner or later. you can not hide.

that's why i voted no.

Though I'm also against trading but certain sites even treat giveaways as Trades. I believe it should be upto the user to decide whether he wanna trade or not.

I don't think this forum should tolerate/encourage behavior that goes against any tracker's rules. However, there is no need to impose a duty on the staff to eliminate such trading, but banning posts about account-trading completely makes it quite easy to eradicate. Of course, people could still do this through PMs, so it wouldn't be the end of it in actuality.

No. And ban anyone that votes YES = Nice FST. :eyebrows:

I vote yes but there should be stricter rules and middlemen should be required NO MATTER WHAT.

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Originally Posted by Polarbear

I'm against account trading because it violates tracker rules. i love my trackers that's why i follow those rules.

those wo don't care about tracker rules and trade accounts will be banned from many sites.

they will catch all account traders sooner or later. you can not hide.

that's why i voted no.

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yeah that should be mentioned too

I vote NO!

IF YOU REALLY WANT TO GIVE AWAY ACCOUNTS OR INVITE PEOPLE - DO IT! NOBODY IS PUSHING YOU TO START THOSE GIVEAWAYS. QUIT ACTING OR GO TO HOLLYWOOD, NOT HERE.
I respect everybody who gives away invites and accounts to people searching for them. But i also respect acting gentle/ polite (if you know what i mean). If somebody does something what's not correct for me - i will ask him to do this again correctly. I will not show him fingers, act like a baby.
And some rules what people create with their giveaways are horrible. Do you want me to die for those invites? To sell my organs maybe? To scream and shout for it? Thera is a lot of sites for trades. Do you really don't know? What about forum.torrentfreak and RealPoor, you can trade there.

No. It is against the rules of the tracker. Furthermore when you use someone elses account you assume their identity, good and bad, and people think you're someone else. The inviter could also easily get in trouble, besides that you're betraying the place that's supossed to be your new home :dabs:

A big resounding NO from me.

I'm with Polarbear on this one. Not only does it violate tracker rules (which should be enough in and of itself) but it also hurts what a tracker stands for in general. Those who approve of account trading, in my mind, don't give a crap about the tracker itself.


How do you think it makes someone like Stoi or Brandon feel when they see people trade their hard work for something else, in hopes to "move up the ladder?" So many people take for granted the time and effort admins put into a site to make it what it is.

trackers invites should not be traded, let alone accounts.

I wouldn't have seen this poll if I hadn't notice Benchez had posted last in this forum on the previous BT page, I was curious as to what he posting in, as I hardly ever visit here any more.

It needs to be mirrored on the main BT forum, with only voting once as the pre-requisite for voting of course, so that others that don't venture in here any more also get the chance to vote, it affects the whole BT forum, not just the invites forum.

Watch all the class newbs vote yes, and the rest no.

sure NO
i think that big mistake when any one try trade accounts:yup:

lol, this is by far the WORST place to ask this question... ur posting in a trading forum whether or not acct trading should be allowed. Who u think looks at this forum section the most? ;)

That's like me going to bar and asking if alcohol should be served.

Never traded.. But if someone has a great giveaway for a account it decieves some members here, i do not know if it is a mod from the track looking for good member's or not, if not i do not agree with Account giveaway's done such as guess my name-ect, You can post up the best proofs but some new member will win? I will not really participate in them anymore because of this..Staff here and at the specific track should decide. Some track's do not care @ all ,other's are no joke with that!

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Originally Posted by Brandon

lol, this is by far the WORST place to ask this question... ur posting in a trading forum whether or not acct trading should be allowed. Who u think looks at this forum section the most? ;)

That's like me going to bar and asking if alcohol should be served.

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i was thinking the same: http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bit...trading-280391

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Originally Posted by Brandon

lol, this is by far the WORST place to ask this question... ur posting in a trading forum whether or not acct trading should be allowed. Who u think looks at this forum section the most? ;)

That's like me going to bar and asking if alcohol should be served.

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LOL good point, this one really made me laugh

I vote NO!

The results indicate otherwise though. Very close so far.

i said yes , no problem in this ...in real life , if any country has much of some kinds of any commodity it trade it with the other country . we shouldn't buy every invite we need and then we find it not suitable for us , so what will i do ? sure will trade it as soon as i don't use it .

Accounts are personal. They were given to you by a friend, or someone that trusted you and wanted to share with YOU.. You do not own the account, which is why you can be disabled at any time for any reason.. Therefore technically you do not have the right to give that account away for any reason.

Should it be allowed? No. Not respectfully at least unless FST wants a lot of enemies who have a lot of influence. Should you FST users want FST to allow it? I would say no.. Why? It creates a hostile environment, and with the recent changes in certain deals made between FST and other staff, there's already an underground staff link that's now effectively trading your (yes, you users) info, including your IP's, your emails, etc. In the long run, this is a bad thing because pretty soon even invite traders will be easily caught and then you also will be pissed off when a trade goes bad and you get nothing out of it.

No, account trading should not be permitted for reasons others have and most likely will articulate much better than me. I just want to add a few points to what others will surely be said, and direct it to those members who are contemplating which way to vote in this thread. Try to think about the future when they vote - what kind of FST they want to be part of:

* Do you want to see tracker staff here on FST, hanging around with everyone and helping people or do you want them to feel hurt and alienated?
* Are you ready to be hunted down by trackers' staff just because you're an FST member, because that's the way this is going lately since the whole CR issue started, in case you haven't been paying attention.
* Do you want to endorse an approach that cultivates breaking tracker rules, cheating and scamming, or would you rather hold your head up high and be considered a valuable member of a community?

This is your chance to make FST better, more friendly and close to the tracker communities which it is supposed to support. This is a chance to return FST to the days when it was a respectable forum where people could get to almost any tracker they wanted just by proving themselves as valuable members here.

So, do you want FST to become just another trading forum or do you want to make it a great forum?

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Originally Posted by Brandon

Accounts are personal. They were given to you by a friend, or someone that trusted you and wanted to share with YOU.. You do not own the account, which is why you can be disabled at any time for any reason.. Therefore technically you do not have the right to give that account away for any reason.

Should it be allowed? No. Not respectfully at least unless FST wants a lot of enemies who have a lot of influence. Should you FST users want FST to allow it? I would say no.. Why? It creates a hostile environment, and with the recent changes in certain deals made between FST and other staff, there's already an underground staff link that's now effectively trading your (yes, you users) info, including your IP's, your emails, etc. In the long run, this is a bad thing because pretty soon even invite traders will be easily caught and then you also will be pissed off when a trade goes bad and you get nothing out of it.

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+1
you say everything nothing to more add :D

btw my vote also goes for NO not only for acc trading and invite trading too ;) since invites meant to be free and to invite only that you know and trust ;)

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Originally Posted by pro267

No, account trading should not be permitted for reasons other have and will articulate much better than me. I just want to add a few points to what others will surely say, and this is intended for those who are contemplating which way to vote in this thread. Try to think about the future when they vote - what kind of FST they want to be part of:

* Do you want to see tracker staff here on FST, hanging around with everyone and helping people or do you want them to feel hurt and alienated?
* Are you ready to be hunted down by trackers' staff just because you're an FST member, because that's the way this is going lately since the whole CR issue started, in case you haven't been paying attention.
* Do you want to endorse an approach that cultivates breaking of tracker rules, cheating and scamming, or would you rather hold your head up high and be considered a valuable member of a community?

This is your chance to make FST better, more friendly and close to the tracker communities which it is supposed to support. This is a chance to return FST to the days when it was a respectable forum where people could get to almost any tracker they wanted just by proving themselves as valuable members here.

So, do you want FST to become just another trading forum or do you want to make it a great forum?

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right on brother. that's the spirit i'm talking about.

VOTE NO - and there will be more staff giveaways again :naughty:

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Originally Posted by Brandon

Accounts are personal. They were given to you by a friend, or someone that trusted you and wanted to share with YOU.. You do not own the account, which is why you can be disabled at any time for any reason.. Therefore technically you do not have the right to give that account away for any reason.

Should it be allowed? No. Not respectfully at least unless FST wants a lot of enemies who have a lot of influence. Should you FST users want FST to allow it? I would say no.. Why? It creates a hostile environment, and with the recent changes in certain deals made between FST and other staff, there's already an underground staff link that's now effectively trading your (yes, you users) info, including your IP's, your emails, etc. In the long run, this is a bad thing because pretty soon even invite traders will be easily caught and then you also will be pissed off when a trade goes bad and you get nothing out of it.

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i concur that, but it's unfortunate that staffers are logging personal details of members without telling us?

No!

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Originally Posted by Brandon

lol, this is by far the WORST place to ask this question... ur posting in a trading forum whether or not acct trading should be allowed. Who u think looks at this forum section the most? ;)

That's like me going to bar and asking if alcohol should be served.

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I thought the same thing. by the way, bacardi black please!

and BTW, my vote was NO

No, and I think the main reasons have been stated by others in this thread. Brandon has definitely cleared up what staff thinks about account transfers and I've also heard many other staff member stating the same thing in other threads.

When it comes down to accounts, if you look at all the torrent sites, not a single one allows account transfers of any kind. In that sense, account transfers could be looked at as equal to ratio cheating, or selling invites.

I understand, in some circumstances, BT users should be allowed to use their own judgment, but FST is a huge influence in the BT world. With all the influence, FST should take the responsibility of adopting UNIVERSAL tracker rules.

yes

this forum not related to any site
every one can trade anything

here's another thing to think about for all you invite seekers:

90% of the people who have memberships on high level trackers on fst were invited by staff - not by account traders.

stopping account trading will actually raise your chances of getting invites to the trackers most of you dream of!

voted no

and removed the useless +1 posts...

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Originally Posted by benchez

No. And ban anyone that votes YES = Nice FST. :eyebrows:

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Agree!

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Originally Posted by Polarbear

here's another thing to think about for all you invite seekers:

90% of the people who have memberships on high level trackers were invited by staff - not by account traders.

stopping account trading will actually raise your chances of getting invites to the tracker most of you dream of!

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indeed, and even if you manage to find a deal to those rarest trackers, probability are highly against you that this account will survive, and your are risking your personnal infos to be passed on to other trackers

add to that scamming, cheating and a whole lot of crap that often come with account trading

If you ask the FST members who spend their time on the lounge section what they think about the invite section, they will tell you it's the kindergarten of FST. :P

Posting this poll in the section "Everything Related to the Board" would definitely had a different result.

Anyway, apparently the answer is NO (both for account trades and giveaways), and that is something the traders should realize, since their life will become much more difficult if the situtation remains as is.

The problem is that it will also have a bad impact on nontraders, since there is already a vendetta between FST and trackers.

Think twice before casting your vote.

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Originally Posted by znik

If you ask the FST members who spend their time on the lounge section what they think about the invite section, they will tell you it's the kindergarten of FST. :P

Posting this poll in the section "Everything Related to the Board" would definitely had a different result.

Anyway, apparently the answer is NO (both for account trades and giveaways), and that is something the traders should realize, since their life will become much more difficult if the situtation remains as is.

The problem is that it will also have a bad impact on nontraders, since there is already a vendetta between FST and trackers.

Think twice before casting your vote.

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Actually "kindergarten" is the good way to put it .. it is more like : bittard section (and they are 100% right .)

Noooooooo

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Originally Posted by Tiantian

, but it's unfortunate that staffers are logging personal details of members without telling us?

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I don't agree with this too