does religion really represent god?

i was just wondering y do people associate god with a particular religion?,if there exist god....
most of the times its just luck...there is not much difference between good luck and god ...bad luck and the devil....and still most the well learned people still practice religion and teach their kids about religion..
is it allrite to associate god with religion??if u do have a kid do u want to bring him up with all these religion in his head...one thing history has tot us is all the inhumane crimes commited in the name of religion that represent god in that particular individuals mind....is that what you want to teach AN young un-adultrated mind??....religion is an assumed story CREATED by a very imaginative person ....we already know religion is a big superstition...and most of the times "RELIGION IS MORE POWERFULL THEN GOD?!!!,IF GOD EXISTS"...i am not an atheist...i belive in god,but not in religion world could be a better place that way

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i was just wondering y do people associate god with a particular religion?,if there exist god....
most of the times its just luck...there is not much difference between good luck and god ...bad luck and the devil....and still most the well learned people still practice religion and teach their kids about religion..
is it allrite to associate god with religion??if u do have a kid do u want to bring him up with all these religion in his head...one thing history has tot us is all the inhumane crimes commited in the name of religion that represent god in that particular individuals mind....is that what you want to teach AN young un-adultrated mind??....religion is an assumed story CREATED by a very imaginative person ....we already know religion is a big superstition...and most of the times "RELIGION IS MORE POWERFULL THEN GOD?!!!,IF GOD EXISTS"...i am not an atheist...i belive in god,but not in religion world could be a better place that way

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Yes

I hate religion.

It's just a way to control people.

Some people just can't live in reality, they want some kind of fictional sense of being. These people are weak.

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i was just wondering y do people associate god with a particular religion?,if there exist god....
most of the times its just luck...there is not much difference between good luck and god ...bad luck and the devil....and still most the well learned people still practice religion and teach their kids about religion..
is it allrite to associate god with religion??if u do have a kid do u want to bring him up with all these religion in his head...one thing history has tot us is all the inhumane crimes commited in the name of religion that represent god in that particular individuals mind....is that what you want to teach AN young un-adultrated mind??....religion is an assumed story CREATED by a very imaginative person ....we already know religion is a big superstition...and most of the times "RELIGION IS MORE POWERFULL THEN GOD?!!!,IF GOD EXISTS"...i am not an atheist...i belive in god,but not in religion world could be a better place that way

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Are all these words in the right order :blink:

twenty to six.

Maybe you should pose your question in the serious section. They like stuff like that in there.

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I hate religion.

It's just a way to control people.

Some people just can't live in reality, they want some kind of fictional sense of being. These people are weak.

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Thank fuck for sweeping generalisations.

Where would we be without them.

Communist France, that's where.

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I hate religion.

It's just a way to control people.

Some people just can't live in reality, they want some kind of fictional sense of being. These people are weak.

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Thank fuck for sweeping generalisations.

Where would we be without them.

Communist France, that's where.

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I'm sorry, I shouldn't be so negative.

I'll keep my opinion to myself, as it offends some people.

Generalizations*

No, please express your opinions.

If you really believe that religious people "just can't live in reality, they want some kind of fictional sense of being. These people are weak." then say it.

There are billions in the World, it's good to see you can define them all so succinctly.

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No, please express your opinions.

If you really believe that religious people "just can't live in reality, they want some kind of fictional sense of being. These people are weak." then say it.

There are billions in the World, it's good to see you can define them all so succinctly.

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What do you think the purpose of religion is?

Do you honestly believe that the god described in the bible and such books is real?

There are billions of uneducated ignorant people on Earth, people that are easily taken advantage of and persuaded to do what they're told.

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I hate religion.

It's just a way to control people.

Some people just can't live in reality, they want some kind of fictional sense of being. These people are weak.

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Are all these words in the right order :blink:

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i dont really know ...those were just random tots i typed..i wanted to know what someone else felt about religion and god thats it...


as far as religion is concerned ...in spite of what ever i say i find it hard to stop believing in my religion and all..since it has become a part of my identity...thats y i feel may be if any change has to come its possible only in the future generation...once some one learns about religion at a very young age...it becomes a part of that person..and people will fight when its threatned...but its really very hard when you compare your religion on the decline and some other religion dominating in numbers.....i guess by the end of this poll "may be i dont care" will win the race....and i guess religion is gonna stay as long as people live...we can never be religion free...we r very different from one another to live together as one...

religion sucks , especially the hindus :dabs:

forget it , am leaving

Religious radicals/fanatics tend to scare me.

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i dont really know ...those were just random tots i typed..i wanted to know what someone else felt about religion and god thats it...


as far as religion is concerned ...in spite of what ever i say i find it hard to stop believing in my religion and all..since it has become a part of my identity...thats y i feel may be if any change has to come its possible only in the future generation...once some one learns about religion at a very young age...it becomes a part of that person..and people will fight when its threatned...but its really very hard when you compare your religion on the decline and some other religion dominating in numbers.....i guess by the end of this poll "may be i dont care" will win the race....and i guess religion is gonna stay as long as people live...we can never be religion free...we r very different from one another to live together as one...

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Fact is, if people didn't indoctrinate children from birth to belong to a specific religion we wouldn't have it. Sure, you'd get the odd isolated pockets of weirdos but nowhere near proper organised religion. Religion is no more than a group bonding exercise, where people wish to be a part of something bigger than them. It's the ultimate extension of our primitive humanity.....our wish to living amongst others with similar values in a way that benefits us all. You'll often meet people who class themselves as 'Muslim' or 'Christian' but don't actually seem to adhere to many of the tenets of the faith. It's just a big club to them with a bit of morality thrown in when it suits them. Plus, they can hedge their bets should there really be a judgement day.

I think it's unethical to raise children in any faith. If as people say, God 'calls to them' they will pick up his wishes on their own without being told by a man in a dress. By all means believe in a higher being...it's about as plausible as any other explanation of our existence.....but just don't fall into the trap of mixing up the weaknesses of the human mind in with that.

We're unique on this planet it seems in our level of consciousness, and I don't think we've quite learned yet to handle the enormity of our existence. We're afraid and it's perfectly natural to be...with all this awareness comes questions we can't answer. Religion in a way is like a pathology of the brain.

That's what I think anyway :ermm:.

this is very nice thread to discuss but wrong section.

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There are billions of uneducated ignorant people on Earth, people that are easily taken advantage of and persuaded to do what they're told.

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Yup, all these seriously uneducated and ignorant people, not a patch on your massive intellect. Who's ever heard of a bright, educated person also being a member of a religion. It's preposterous.

Or heaven forfend thought for themselves, easily led sheep, every one of them.

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There are billions of uneducated ignorant people on Earth, people that are easily taken advantage of and persuaded to do what they're told.

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Yup, all these seriously uneducated and ignorant people, not a patch on your massive intellect. Who's ever heard of a bright, educated person also being a member of a religion. It's preposterous.

Or heaven forfend thought for themselves, easily led by sheep, every one of them.

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Why no take it all the way, like.

Oh and *Generalisations, ryan. He's not some colonial :ghey:

Indeed, everyone who is religious is ignorant and uneducated, who am I to argue with that. Particularly given the great minds who have decreed it so.

Tony Blair for example, there's an ignorant and uneducated chap. Went to Oxford University, became a Barrister, went on to lead one of the G8 countries. How ignorant and uneducated do you need to be. How much of a sheep, figuratively speaking, to run the country you were born in.

Let's get this clear right now. To say that you don't believe in God, fair enough. To say that you don't agree with religion, that's a matter for you.

However to suggest that everyone who does believe in God and who is religious is also ignorant and uneducated is frankly laughable and bigoted. Cherie Blair is a QC, how ignorant and uneducated do you have to be, not only be called to the bar but also to become Queen's Council.

How many people here are Muslim, Jewish, Christian or whatever. All ignorant and uneducated, I think not.

I've been wondering a bit about the mueslies here, truth be told.

In what way.

In every way possible, ever.

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Indeed, everyone who is religious is ignorant and uneducated, who am I to argue with that. Particularly given the great minds who have decreed it so.

Tony Blair for example, there's an ignorant and uneducated chap. Went to Oxford University, became a Barrister, went on to lead one of the G8 countries. How ignorant and uneducated do you need to be. How much of a sheep, figuratively speaking, to run the country you were born in.

Let's get this clear right now. To say that you don't believe in God, fair enough. To say that you don't agree with religion, that's a matter for you.

However to suggest that everyone who does believe in God and who is religious is also ignorant and uneducated is frankly laughable and bigoted. Cherie Blair is a QC, how ignorant and uneducated do you have to be, not only be called to the bar but also to become Queen's Council.

How many people here are Muslim, Jewish, Christian or whatever. All ignorant and uneducated, I think not.

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Tony Blair only managed to become prime minister cause he supports newcastle. fact.

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Indeed, everyone who is religious is ignorant and uneducated, who am I to argue with that. Particularly given the great minds who have decreed it so.

Tony Blair for example, there's an ignorant and uneducated chap. Went to Oxford University, became a Barrister, went on to lead one of the G8 countries. How ignorant and uneducated do you need to be. How much of a sheep, figuratively speaking, to run the country you were born in.

Let's get this clear right now. To say that you don't believe in God, fair enough. To say that you don't agree with religion, that's a matter for you.

However to suggest that everyone who does believe in God and who is religious is also ignorant and uneducated is frankly laughable and bigoted. Cherie Blair is a QC, how ignorant and uneducated do you have to be, not only be called to the bar but also to become Queen's Council.

How many people here are Muslim, Jewish, Christian or whatever. All ignorant and uneducated, I think not.

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Tony Blair only managed to become prime minister cause he supports newcastle. fact.

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Gordon brown supports raith rovers. Do you think supporting a shit football team helps one become prime minister?

Edit - I'm not being fair to raith rovers, they've won something while I've been alive.

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Tony Blair only managed to become prime minister cause he supports newcastle. fact.

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Gordon brown supports raith rovers. Do you think supporting a shit football team helps one become prime minister?

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that's a thumb down for you, sir:snooty:

Oh and in response to the threadstarter I'd just like to say: WTF, brick of words.

Oh and there's no constant except that not everything can be proven or disproven at this point in time, when it comes to matters of the metaphysical.

Some organised religions can be, and have been, very bad things throughout history in some places. But not all of the concepts they embrace are inherently bad. It might even be argued that some have provided the means to create better civilisations, up to a point, as they lay down the law and motivate people to behave and conform to that civilisation's ideals with a better afterlife or some seriously nasty punishment from whoever's running the show, really.

Right now, maybe a lot of people need to rely less on organisation and more on introspection, what they think and not what's ordained, and for that matter let their children decide on what to believe themselves.

But if people want to be religious, and they neither hurt anyone, nor force their beliefs on anyone, I don't really see what the big deal is.

Let them have religion or something else.

If you want a specific answer to whatever the hell you're on about, you'll have to sort out what you want to say a bit.

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Gordon brown supports raith rovers. Do you think supporting a shit football team helps one become prime minister?

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that's a thumb down for you, sir:snooty:

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I really think you should pick a second team to support, one in Scotland maybe. Rangers would be your best bet, they are top of the league, still in 4 competitions and JP wouldn't like it.

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that's a thumb down for you, sir:snooty:

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I really think you should pick a second team to support, one in Scotland maybe. Rangers would be your best bet, they are top of the league, still in 4 competitions and JP wouldn't like it.

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If i wanted to supoprt a team at the level of the scottish premier, I'd support blyth spartans or someone:snooty:

You two are doing manly bonding now, aren't you?

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I really think you should pick a second team to support, one in Scotland maybe. Rangers would be your best bet, they are top of the league, still in 4 competitions and JP wouldn't like it.

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If i wanted to supoprt a team at the level of the scottish premier, I'd support blyth spartans or someone:snooty:

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Sorry. I just thought you might like to to take on a second team that's still in europe after the pre season tour.

Damn, I've had too much to drink I nearly forgot about the intertonto cup, sorry again.

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If i wanted to supoprt a team at the level of the scottish premier, I'd support blyth spartans or someone:snooty:

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Sorry. I just thought you might like to to take on a second team that's still in europe after the pre season tour.

Damn, I've had too much to drink I nearly forgot about the intertonto cup, sorry again.

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We'd win the league every season if we played in scotland. fact:snooty:

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Sorry. I just thought you might like to to take on a second team that's still in europe after the pre season tour.

Damn, I've had too much to drink I nearly forgot about the intertonto cup, sorry again.

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We'd win the league every season if we played in scotland. fact:snooty:

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No you wouldn't, your team is pish even with all the extra tv money you get. They'd probably be about kilmarnocks level without it.

how does that barb in your lip feel?:smilie4:

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how does that barb in your lip feel?:smilie4:

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I was only trying to help you :dry:

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how does that barb in your lip feel?:smilie4:

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I was only trying to help you :dry:

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It was feckin obvious I was rodding, ffs.

Not even the most die hard geordie would believe we'd be able to win any league other than the conference:pinch:

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I was only trying to help you :dry:

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It was feckin obvious I was rodding, ffs.

Not even the most die hard geordie would believe we'd be able to win any league other than the conference:pinch:

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What man would be able to resist slagging of another team? even one that wouldn't pose a threat to women and children.

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It was feckin obvious I was rodding, ffs.

Not even the most die hard geordie would believe we'd be able to win any league other than the conference:pinch:

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What man would be able to resist slagging of another team? even one that wouldn't pose a threat to women and children.

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One who doesn't have to derive self-esteem from mocking others, cockface:snooty:

That so totally leaves you out.