Best way to get your foot in the door? (Metaphorically speaking)

My dilemma at the moment is that I'm looking to get into a private music tracker (*NOTE* NOT A REQUEST), but I'm not really sure how to get started on the whole torrent trading scene. It seems like if I wanted an invite somewhere, I should have something to trade, as it's only fair. So I'm curious... how did you all get started? Is there a good site that's easy enough to get into, and then I could trade my way up? Or would it be better to just try to get decent ratios on some public trackers and then post those along with a speed test and hope that someone is feeling generous? Edit: Read my post at the end of this thread to see how this turned out in the end.

Well if you don't have any friends that might help you, don't lose your hope and begin trading.
You could make a decent request in the invite section.
Also a good way to get invites is through people (e-friends) from other trackers.

tbh there is no "easy" way, trading is the easiest though but if you are a trader you have less chance of getting into the hard to get in sites.

There is no simple solution, what works for 1 may not work for others.

all i can suggest is to be active here and on any trackers that your a member off, get noticed (even just good posts) and the offers will come, but it may take awhile and wont be a 5 minute job so you will need patience.

whichever way you decide to go, you will get someone saying its the wrong way, so its your decision in the end.

PS: there are plenty private trackers that are open, sign up to those first and do the above.

most of all people gave me away invite in DVDClub,SCC and a few less important ones...and i managed to register in TvT.ro which now its great!...

Here's my advice..

1.Be active and help others with what you know so far,you will learn more and more as you go.
2.Share(not trade) what you have. Once you are seen sharing what you have and being active you will be rewarded.
3.Be active in your trackers and respect their rules. You will not get far without doing this.
4.Get to know other members and make a few friends.

I hope this helps!

:)

dont trade
make friends by giving what you have

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Being active on FST will get you absolutely nowhere.

The torrent scene has evolved since it first started; trackers are much more particular about who they let in and who they refuse access to. Since the day the RIAA began attacking music "pirates", trackers have been progressively closing their "doors". This in turn caused an influx of file-sharers to try to "get their feet in the door" as you said. At the present time there is a massive amount of people trying to squeeze their way in to trackers who must continue to progressively continue shutting themselves out from the rest of the world.

In short, you are not alone in trying to "get your foot in the door".

There are members here at FST from every tracker, but I can nearly guarantee that nothing will come of a request from here. Make a name for yourself on other private trackers and you WILL be noticed. Make sure you upload quality rips consistently if you are planning on uploading.

Lastly, "trading" now carries a detrimentally negative connotation. While giving someone an invitation in return for another was once widespread and conventional, "trading" as it is reffered to now is something that could potentially ruin your reputation.

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Originally Posted by markupmaster

Here's my advice..

1.Be active and help others with what you know so far,you will learn more and more as you go.
2.Share(not trade) what you have. Once you are seen sharing what you have and being active you will be rewarded.
3.Be active in your trackers and respect their rules. You will not get far without doing this.
4.Get to know other members and make a few friends.

I hope this helps!

:)

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yes listen to him ..it gonna take a while...trading is not a bad option...but its better if you avoid it....you can start with demonoid ..thats how i started

Thanks for the suggestions so far. A few things I've noted:
"Get noticed at private trackers"
I'd need to find some first of all. Would you recommend simply checking the ones that periodically open each day hoping to get lucky?

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2.Share(not trade) what you have. Once you are seen sharing what you have and being active you will be rewarded.
3.Be active in your trackers and respect their rules. You will not get far without doing this.

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Don't these two contradict each other? I thought private sites generally kept tabs on the IPs being used by their users so that accounts can't be shared around.

As for friends who could help, my cousin recently got into waffles but he's not really sure about when he gets invites/whether he gets them period, so I figured I'd start looking around. Ultimately that's probably where I'd like to end up but I realize I need to start small.

1. Be active here
2. ???
3. PROFIT!!!!!

when he said share i think he meant give out invites
waffles invites are given i think to PU and donators
also it is best not to trade, it makes earning higher tracker levels a lot easier when you have good friends and you will find you hold more respect

=]

Actually I meant share the invites that you have..

:)

So would you say maybe try to get an invite to the level 2 torrent sites in the sticky, and then once I earn invitations at those just give them out?

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Originally Posted by superclover

dont trade
make friends by giving what you have

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Friends are the people who don't ask anything of you.
What your talking about sounds like trading to me.Give so you get.
I fail to see any difference. Being nice should be an end in itself.

I wish you the very best of luck ca_aok whatever your decision is.

idoleyes what i meant was meet people through giving gifts, not giving then asking them for something

PM me if interested in a free demonoid..

:)

and pm me if you are interested in what.cd invite =]

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Originally Posted by ca_aok

So would you say maybe try to get an invite to the level 2 torrent sites in the sticky, and then once I earn invitations at those just give them out?

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Keep an eye on the open signups thread too, there are many decent trackers there you can signup and give out invites when you get them :)

That was a nice thing you did superclover.
That proved your point more than anything you could have said.:)

My advice would be to stay away from trading, read the rules of each tracker and follow them as carefully as possible - which includes, not sharing/giving away accounts, and not carelessly giving out invites to people you don't know anything about. Not only will you get a better reputation around the BT scene with the more established members, you'll ensure your own accounts' safety - it's not that difficult to get banned.
If you stick around here, be helpful and be productive - don't just spam to up your post count. You will get noticed.

If you do these things, in a matter of months or possibly less, you would be able to get into any tracker for the most part - assuming you're genuine about it.

Also, at Waffles, I'm not sure if they still do it, but they gave me an invite every time I uploaded a torrent, even when I wasn't a PU - so maybe if your friend does that, he'll get an invite and you can get in.

scam your way !

post that you have f*** or uk-t and want anything else and let them go first ,
and you can always use a middle man " your buddy " .

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Originally Posted by S3v3N

scam your way !

post that you have f*** or uk-t and want anything else and let them go first ,
and you can always use a middle man " your buddy " .

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Is that supposed to be a joke :huh:

Anyways, always check for giveaways and if your requests are really heartfelt, you will probably get the invite you want. Also, making friends doesn't hurt at all :D

Check out the invites section and the open signups and soon you'll be in a couple of trackers and build yourself from there ;)

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Originally Posted by ca_aok

Thanks for the suggestions so far. A few things I've noted:
"Get noticed at private trackers"
I'd need to find some first of all. Would you recommend simply checking the ones that periodically open each day hoping to get lucky?

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2.Share(not trade) what you have. Once you are seen sharing what you have and being active you will be rewarded.
3.Be active in your trackers and respect their rules. You will not get far without doing this.

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Don't these two contradict each other? I thought private sites generally kept tabs on the IPs being used by their users so that accounts can't be shared around.

As for friends who could help, my cousin recently got into waffles but he's not really sure about when he gets invites/whether he gets them period, so I figured I'd start looking around. Ultimately that's probably where I'd like to end up but I realize I need to start small.

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he didnt mean share accounts, he meant share invites. now if you don't already have STMusic i'd be happy to invite you there. besides what and waffles it is definately the best music tracker. and if you have good proofs of being able to keep ratio on a site that has no bonus systems, i just might invite you to what.cd :)

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scam your way !

post that you have f*** or uk-t and want anything else and let them go first ,
and you can always use a middle man " your buddy " .

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Dang should've thought of that ;)

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Originally Posted by Quylui

Being active on FST will get you absolutely nowhere.

There are members here at FST from every tracker, but I can nearly guarantee that nothing will come of a request from here.

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Sorry, but this gives a very negative and untrue view of FST.

I have gotten most of my trackers from FST people, based solely on their kindness. I even had an extremely unlikely request granted to me.

So don't lose hope!

I'll give you my side of the story but also take a little bit of advice from every other members to get a full perspective on things. I came to FST in October after Oink was forced to close it's doors. All I can say from experience I now have is.

1. Be ACTIVE (Everywhere including FST).
2. Network and make friends (Choose them WISELY).
3. Help people (Not just for show either).
4. Give great advice (On things you know without a doubt).
5. Always have an opinion. (When it's your turn, time, and place to have one)
6. Treat people the way you want to be treated.
7. Do not trade your way in (If you want hard to get trackers).
8. Love your bt tracker (Whether if it's for it's content or community).
9. Practice security and do the right thing.
10. Participate and try to get noticed in a good light only .
11. Nobody is perfect and everyone had flaws.
12. Do not put the Bt world over REAL LIFE.
13. Take caution before you act cause it will either have a positive or negative effect.
14. Always respect staff even if some are arrogant (bt world is a very small one)
15. Always follow the rules best you can and read faq's and rule guidelines (important)

Thats really it. Just soak all the advice you can get.

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Originally Posted by grimms

I'll give you my side of the story but also take a little bit of advice from every other members to get a full perspective on things. I came to FST in October after Oink was forced to close it's doors. All I can say from experience I now have is.

1. Be ACTIVE (Everywhere including FST).
2. Network and make friends (Choose them WISELY).
3. Help people (Not just for show either).
4. Give great advice (On things you know without a doubt).
5. Always have an opinion. (When it's your turn, time, and place to have one)
6. Treat people the way you want to be treated.
7. Do not trade your way in (If you want hard to get trackers).
8. Love your bt tracker (Whether if it's for it's content or community).
9. Practice security and do the right thing.
10. Participate and try to get noticed in a good light only .
11. Nobody is perfect and everyone had flaws.
12. Do not put the Bt world over REAL LIFE.
13. Take caution before you act cause it will either have a positive or negative effect.
14. Always respect staff even if some are arrogant (bt world is a very small one)
15. Always follow the rules best you can and read faq's and rule guidelines (important)

Thats really it. Just soak all the advice you can get.

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Do not put the Bt world over REAL LIFEplease follow this...unlike typing 15 pointers... ,wow good one grimms,very smart like always...

to the op:just do what u want man,you can almost get away with the anything on the internet, if u find it hard to start with ,,trade initially and then to get the hard ones come back here, tell every one you have changed (even better tell them you never traded) make a few low level giveaways because they are low levels thier rules doesnt mean anything and they were never meant to have a community ...i mean trackers like revtt,scc,tl,demonoid others....

always rememeber, community and rules are meant only for level 6 and above.....and spam a lot or traders threads talking about rules and community and how important it is,and preach whats right whats wrong, thus you declare yourself as an "anti-trader" and you get all the invites u want ,thats the end of journey

And don't repetitively post the obvious or repeat what has already previously been said in threads.

If you have an opinion or thought, make it an original one and make short, sweet & succinct.

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Originally Posted by stitched

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Originally Posted by grimms

I'll give you my side of the story but also take a little bit of advice from every other members to get a full perspective on things. I came to FST in October after Oink was forced to close it's doors. All I can say from experience I now have is.

1. Be ACTIVE (Everywhere including FST).
2. Network and make friends (Choose them WISELY).
3. Help people (Not just for show either).
4. Give great advice (On things you know without a doubt).
5. Always have an opinion. (When it's your turn, time, and place to have one)
6. Treat people the way you want to be treated.
7. Do not trade your way in (If you want hard to get trackers).
8. Love your bt tracker (Whether if it's for it's content or community).
9. Practice security and do the right thing.
10. Participate and try to get noticed in a good light only .
11. Nobody is perfect and everyone had flaws.
12. Do not put the Bt world over REAL LIFE.
13. Take caution before you act cause it will either have a positive or negative effect.
14. Always respect staff even if some are arrogant (bt world is a very small one)
15. Always follow the rules best you can and read faq's and rule guidelines (important)

Thats really it. Just soak all the advice you can get.

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Do not put the Bt world over REAL LIFEplease follow this...unlike typing 15 pointers... ,wow good one grimms,very smart like always...

to the op:just do what u want man,you can almost get away with the anything on the internet, if u find it hard to start with ,,trade initially and then to get the hard ones come back here, tell every one you have changed (even better tell them you never traded) make a few low level giveaways because they are low levels thier rules doesnt mean anything and they were never meant to have a community ...i mean trackers like revtt,scc,tl,demonoid others....

always rememeber, community and rules are meant only for level 6 and above.....and spam a lot or traders threads talking about rules and community and how important it is,and preach whats right whats wrong, thus you declare yourself as an "anti-trader" and you get all the invites u want ,thats the end of journey

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what a load of bollocks.

Community and rules are only meant for lvl 6 and above trackers, ive heard everything now.

I am not going to bash lvl 6 and above trackers, they have their purpose. but Bittorrent is all about sharing.

I love to see 2000 seeds on a game on BCG, you will very rarely see that many snatches on a lvl 6 and above tracker, never mind seeds on the thing.

to me a tracker should be about fast speeds, loads of seeders, lots of leechers, loads of content even from a year back where you can still download it if you want and faster than 5KBs, loads of members taking part in the community, even if its just the torrent comments, we get about 4000 torrent comments a week on BCG now thats community.

Sorry but that post has just got what everything is wrong with the WTAW thread to a fucking tea (i dont swear often but you have got me pissed).

respect all your trackers, doesnt matter if its lvl 1 or lvl 10000000, lvls are just a load of bollocks anyway.

Edit: i have just re-read it, and im not sure if everything in bold was sarcasm or not, if it was i appologize, its late here, its its not, then it is a load of bollocks lol

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Being active on FST will get you absolutely nowhere.

There are members here at FST from every tracker, but I can nearly guarantee that nothing will come of a request from here.

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Judging by the response I've gotten within one day, especially since I'm relatively unknown, I can definitely say that's a lie. And on that note I'd like to thank everyone for their advice so far.

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to the op:just do what u want man,you can almost get away with the anything on the internet, if u find it hard to start with ,,trade initially and then to get the hard ones come back here, tell every one you have changed (even better tell them you never traded) make a few low level giveaways because they are low levels thier rules doesnt mean anything and they were never meant to have a community ...i mean trackers like revtt,scc,tl,demonoid others....

always rememeber, community and rules are meant only for level 6 and above.....and spam a lot or traders threads talking about rules and community and how important it is,and preach whats right whats wrong, thus you declare yourself as an "anti-trader" and you get all the invites u want ,thats the end of journey

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I'm not really sure if this was a joke or not, but in any case I wasn't expecting to be on a level 6+ tracker anytime soon, I'm perfectly happy with these lower level trackers. And I'm certainly not going to be doing most of that, though from a cynical viewpoint that's likely in a nutshell how many made it into the top trackers :p

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Originally Posted by stitched

Do not put the Bt world over REAL LIFEplease follow this...unlike typing 15 pointers... ,wow good one grimms,very smart like always...

to the op:just do what u want man,you can almost get away with the anything on the internet, if u find it hard to start with ,,trade initially and then to get the hard ones come back here, tell every one you have changed (even better tell them you never traded) make a few low level giveaways because they are low levels thier rules doesnt mean anything and they were never meant to have a community ...i mean trackers like revtt,scc,tl,demonoid others....

always rememeber, community and rules are meant only for level 6 and above.....and spam a lot or traders threads talking about rules and community and how important it is,and preach whats right whats wrong, thus you declare yourself as an "anti-trader" and you get all the invites u want ,thats the end of journey

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what a load of bollocks.

Community and rules are only meant for lvl 6 and above trackers, ive heard everything now.

I am not going to bash lvl 6 and above trackers, they have their purpose. but Bittorrent is all about sharing.

I love to see 2000 seeds on a game on BCG, you will very rarely see that many snatches on a lvl 6 and above tracker, never mind seeds on the thing.

to me a tracker should be about fast speeds, loads of seeders, lots of leechers, loads of content even from a year back where you can still download it if you want and faster than 5KBs, loads of members taking part in the community, even if its just the torrent comments, we get about 4000 torrent comments a week on BCG now thats community.

Sorry but that post has just got what everything is wrong with the WTAW thread to a fucking tea (i dont swear often but you have got me pissed).

respect all your trackers, doesnt matter if its lvl 1 or lvl 10000000, lvls are just a load of bollocks anyway.

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I think you miss the sarcasm in his post, which if you read between the lines, is very accurate actually ;)

yeah i re-read it and edited my post above, i read it first and just seen red, usually im a bit more refined and read over and over, this time i didnt lol

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Originally Posted by ca_aok

Judging by the response I've gotten within one day, especially since I'm relatively unknown, I can definitely say that's a lie. And on that note I'd like to thank everyone for their advice so far, and especially those who have extended invitations to me.

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You will learn soon enough, young padawan, that what I say is far from a lie.

its like the saying, its who you know, not what you know thats very important when it comes to trying to join other trackers

Dude got both feet in the door, huh?

:whistle:

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Originally Posted by tusks

Anyways, always check for giveaways and if your requests are really heartfelt, you will probably get the invite you want. Also, making friends doesn't hurt at all :D

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Don't make request threads for trackers with rare invites without being active first. Alot of noobs make a request to let's say Bitmetv, and expect people to fulfill them. If you remain active, work your way up the tracker level ladder, and friendly, then and only then you should make a request for a rarer invite tracker. The reason why most of the request for higher level trackers aren't fulfilled is because the person hasn't earned them yet.

Giveaways:

When you enter a giveaway first, read the rules. State why you want the invite that they are giving away. Be as honest and detailed as possible as why you want to be on the tracker, what you have to offer as a member at that tracker, etc. Second, use the tracker. Alot of people ask for invites to trackers and never use them. Before you enter ask for an invite in a giveaway, read the check out the tracker reviews thread.

When you do a giveaway try to avoid giving them out to just anybody. The rarer the invite the more thorough you should be in giving the invite. Treat your giveaways like a group interview then researach your invitee Simply don't base who you give an invite to on ratio and speed proofs, but go through their post history, ask for user profile links, chat with them on IM, and then if you feel they deserve your invite then provide them with one. Remember that when you make a giveaway you are NOT obligated to give out an invite if you feel that the field of candidates is weak. Just hold on to your invites and do another giveaway later or even better check out candidates from similar giveaways.

Heed this advice and you'll get what you want in time.

GL on your BT journey.

There is no best way. Do as you feel. To be active and make friends just to get invitations for here and there is at least ridiculous. Of course, if you are a community guy and love it , its another story.

I can see you have received some invites by now, so your thread has good point.
If you feel so, shoot me a pm to show that you are good "what" user. It will take some time of course... After that we can have a little chat and you may receive some invites from me.

Till then - Good Luck :)

Open signups first. Then I found out about levels which made me curious about what other trackers have to offer regarding content, speed and in the end pretimes. So I start posting in various BT communities until I find the best one (and no, it's not FST). I tried to be active and help out other members and I made friends, which ultimately invited me to some high level trackers. That was the moment when I found out the "awful" truth. With some minor exceptions the level means nothing. Trust me on that. RevoTT, TL (for 0day), hdbits (for HD), tv.torrents.to (for tv shows) and what.cd/waffles (for music) are all you'll ever need in BT world.

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So I'm curious... how did you all get started?

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Originally Posted by stoi

what a load of bollocks.

Community and rules are only meant for lvl 6 and above trackers, ive heard everything now.

I am not going to bash lvl 6 and above trackers, they have their purpose. but Bittorrent is all about sharing.

I love to see 2000 seeds on a game on BCG, you will very rarely see that many snatches on a lvl 6 and above tracker, never mind seeds on the thing.

to me a tracker should be about fast speeds, loads of seeders, lots of leechers, loads of content even from a year back where you can still download it if you want and faster than 5KBs, loads of members taking part in the community, even if its just the torrent comments, we get about 4000 torrent comments a week on BCG now thats community.

Sorry but that post has just got what everything is wrong with the WTAW thread to a fucking tea (i dont swear often but you have got me pissed).

respect all your trackers, doesnt matter if its lvl 1 or lvl 10000000, lvls are just a load of bollocks anyway.

Edit: i have just re-read it, and im not sure if everything in bold was sarcasm or not, if it was i appologize, its late here, its its not, then it is a load of bollocks lol

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well i am glad you posted this stoi,atleast some one cares....well, if i call the color white as white every one has problems with it,and its load of bollocks..if i say white as the color of milk....then no one complains...

whatever u said bollocks, has been happening on FST from a very long time...some one must be blind not to see it...i just told you how it happens ,its not sumthing i made up,and some people hate me for the way i post..

and as far as me Pirate Bay and Demonoid is more important then any high level tracker......i used to have no rules and trade away into almost anything a long time back...now that i have almost everything i want and like i always say i am not really greedy ,i doo try and not break any rule,i value demonoid invite as much as a norbit invite...and i am not the one who is gonna be inviting some one i dont know.

Black Cats ,TL,SCC,REVTT,PT,The Vault-----i really have tons of respect for those ,now that i have matured more in the bittorrent,


i wish more people tot the way u doo stoi....well not every one is a admin where "2000 seeds on a game on BCG, you will very rarely see that many snatches , fast speeds, loads of seeders, lots of leechers, loads of content even from a year back where you can still download it if you want and faster than 5KBs, loads of members taking part in the community, even if its just the torrent comments, we get about 4000 torrent comments a week on BCG NOW THATS A COMMUNITY.some people deserve to be what they are and u r definately one of those.