F*N - Again improved

2008-06-15

Starting today we'll test having no minimum seed time.

Keep in mind, just because we have no mandatory seed time does not mean hit and runs are acceptable. Please use good judgment.

I stress that this is only a trial, meaning it is not set in stone and is not permanent. There will definitely be changes, whether it be that we keep this, or we modify the old rule, or make a mixture of both.

More details will probably pop up here, so check back for the next few days. When we've finished our experimentation, you'll get word of the new system.

This could be a risky move by FTN..

According to our news this may highly enhance the peers/seeder ratio or drop.

Well, I can´t find one single reason for not seeding a torrent for at least 48 hours... I mean: I think that it´s the same thing.
But it is a very nice way of showing confidence in us. And we must seed even more in return for that trust.

I actually think this may be OK for FTN.

Tight, close nit community.

Less than 5000 members (i think).

Closed for months

They should have members that know what is expected of them, and know how to use this perk they have been giving, wisely.

I do not think this will ever work on a big tracker though, that takes new members.

But good luck, i hope it does work out, only big problem i can see, is if you ever open the doors again to new members, teaching them what is expected of them.

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Originally Posted by C.H.A.O.S

According to our news this may highly enhance the peers/seeder ratio or drop.

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It'll also vastly increase the amount of snatches hopefully, and with the competition to get ratio for seedbox users this is a good thing. It's also great for normal users, because they won't always have to seed 3 days, so there is now no reason to go to PiSexy or Revtt or _____ to download something you don't want to seed very long. I'm hoping this will work well so they can keep the rule. no ratio alone isn't that special anymore, with countless new(-ish) trackers such as iTS, PTN, Bitseek, iFi, etc adopting the idea as well

it reasonable, but risky.

Seems to me to be an attempt to increase snatches, which is a common thing these days.

Best of luck with it..

It's a trial basis for 1 week only, for the time being, and agree with Stoi, small userbase where most members know each other will look after each other over trackers that have large userbases.

nice move , but it has some risk

This kind of rules would only work a treat if it happened to FTN. Every user there knows how to make the site better. It's not a duty, but an honor.

what is so "risky" in trial?

This is great News for all F*N members and it will not just increase the Leeching but also it will help most people to build good ratios for those who have slow internet connection.

I know that F*N does not have any ratio...Secondly no matter if minimum seed time is under trial seeder will always seed..

Thanks a lot for a great move..:D

IMO, ftn members will be encouraged to leech.
If more people download the torrent, more people will seed the torrent!!

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Originally Posted by BOOM

IMO, ftn members will be encouraged to leech.
If more people download the torrent, more people will seed the torrent!!

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BOOM how can they encourage members to leech when there are so many got ftn as a trophy and they are useing other sites to download.
I hope the new update improves ftn tracker and the races lmao there is no need to cheat (No Sample):P

1 thing i was thinking about just now was if people got it as a trophy and don't download there should be a rule of downloading EX like 10 torrent's week to keep there account active. The ones who don't download they will have to just to keep there account alive.. i think this idea will give ftn peers and snatches a big boost.

I'm glad to know how much trust FTN staff are putting into us/their members. I just hope that people won't abuse this.

10 per week is alot and is ridiculous for the average user, you can't expect someone to watch 10 movies/shows every 7 days. If this rule won't encourage leeching than nothing will. They already disabled over 1k unused 'trophy' accounts about a month ago

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Originally Posted by T.S.O.L.

10 per week is alot and is ridiculous for the average user, you can't expect someone to watch 10 movies/shows every 7 days. If this rule won't encourage leeching than nothing will. They already disabled over 1k unused 'trophy' accounts about a month ago

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T.S.O.L I was giveing a example to the ones who don't download and the ones who download i can't say anything, you understand the way am tryying to say.
best thing about ftn is the forum side and the bad part is tracker side but hope to see it improved.
These day's people wanna download fast and get that 1.1 ratio

no ratio , no minimum seed time ?
what is it .. free usenet ? :unsure:

All the best. I am sure it will work for you

This will prove who is a good member,very generous staff it seems. :) . I am not a member there yet so- no more on that!

i think almost everyone is gonna seed for days like before

but it's a nice move, ofcourse

F*N is ahead always :)

If this does create more peers, then obviously that is a really good thing for FTN users.

However, assuming this rule doesn't get abused because FTN users know what is expected from them kind of contradicts the fact that it would take something like this to promote downloading...

There is probably a better way, but if this works then... maybe it'll be easier to seed 1:1 on a shit connection.

srsly, if there was a news post saying that brandon took a dump on his own face, it would appear on fst faster than it would on ftn

trolls.

Sounds good to me. Easier to spot the real leeches, when they don't think they have to seed at all.

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Originally Posted by jam0980tr

best thing about ftn is the forum side and the bad part is tracker side but hope to see it improved.

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I'm sorry what's "bad" with the tracker side? Pre-times are so good these days they're at times faster than S*T's, the tracker is alive and kicking. Most torrents are fast as heck to dl, even with 1 seeder (which is the case for the older material). Please tell us what's so "bad" about it?

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Originally Posted by th0r

srsly, if there was a news post saying that brandon took a dump on his own face, it would appear on fst faster than it would on ftn

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Still feeling bad he crapped on your chest, 'ey?

honestly, i wouldn't seed back and would HnR that bitch ! =)

That's why you're not in FTN.

I guess this is more of a departure from the archetypal 0day tracker model. Very progressive.

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Originally Posted by VillageShaman

That's why you're not in FTN.

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how do you know? im gonna HnR my heart out during this trial

Good idea, ruin it for the rest of us why don't you.

//Quickedit: That's why people like you shouldn't be in FTN.

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Originally Posted by VillageShaman

Good idea, ruin it for the rest of us why don't you.

//Quickedit: That's why people like you shouldn't be in FTN.

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Oh V-male don't get all wind up by this kind of provocative babbling ... I'm sure the staff will sort out these kind of users and boot them faster than they can say 'looser'. :cool:

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Originally Posted by VillageShaman

Good idea, ruin it for the rest of us why don't you.

//Quickedit: That's why people like you shouldn't be in FTN.

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She isn't, albeit wishing she was. It's all revealed in the grammatical choice:

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honestly, i wouldn't seed back and would HnR that bitch !

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Originally Posted by VillageShaman

I'm sorry what's "bad" with the tracker side? Pre-times are so good these days they're at times faster than S*T's, the tracker is alive and kicking. Most torrents are fast as heck to dl, even with 1 seeder (which is the case for the older material). Please tell us what's so "bad" about it?

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1st- loser's only cheat there pre times if there proS, no need cheating why give out 99% (there auto sucks so much they have to cheat:naughty:) FTN don't have to follow other peoples foot step's they have make there own. that just sucks.
2nd - lack of peers
3rd - It's becoming like a dead tracker
4th - 2 many got ftn as a trophy and they are useing other sites to download.

These are some of the things bad about ftn tracker but don't get me wrong i like the forum best thing about ftn and hope to see it improved alot.

Personaly, as bold of a move this is...and i give props to the staff for giving it a go.. BUT, i see this as an epic fail.. unfortunately many users/members need these rules to keep them in line otherwise, they will run all over this like a like a drunken truck driver.. staff has a lot of work ahead of'em.. and most likely gonna be a lot more open spaces to fill in the userbase there soon.. so that may be good news for some... maybe

we'll have to wait and see how this goes

Sorry @Post#34, but I can't comprehend one word of your diatribe. :wacko:

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Originally Posted by VillageShaman

Sorry @Post#34, but I can't comprehend one word your diatribe. :wacko:

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VillageShaman my poster 34 isn't violent speech by the way you asked me so that's your reply and every line i said is true.

I meant to say I can't understand a word of what you said.

Is this some idiom I'm not aware of? A new form of speech?

I remain ignorant.

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Originally Posted by VillageShaman

I meant to say I can't understand a word of what you said.

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Originally Posted by VillageShaman

Please tell us what's so "bad" about it?

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my english isn't that bad and i have gone over my reply, i can fully understand what i said, there are no misstakes @ Post#34

ok anyway i hope you understand it, because am not gonna explain it again, it's there for you to understand VillageShaman. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by jam0980tr

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Originally Posted by VillageShaman

I'm sorry what's "bad" with the tracker side? Pre-times are so good these days they're at times faster than S*T's, the tracker is alive and kicking. Most torrents are fast as heck to dl, even with 1 seeder (which is the case for the older material). Please tell us what's so "bad" about it?

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1st- loser's only cheat there pre times if there proS, no need cheating why give out 99% (there auto sucks so much they have to cheat:naughty:) FTN don't have to follow other peoples foot step's they have make there own. that just sucks.
2nd - lack of peers
3rd - It's becoming like a dead tracker
4th - 2 many got ftn as a trophy and they are useing other sites to download.

These are some of the things bad about ftn tracker but don't get me wrong i like the forum best thing about ftn and hope to see it improved alot.

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1: How exactly do we cheat? You do realize, it's difficult to cheat due to the nature of how torrents work. You have to actually make the torrent in order for it to show up on site with the correct size, etc. And even if we were going to cheat, we'd be first on every torrent don't you think?

2: Lack of peers? We have less than 5k users, and 20,000 peers. Do some math buddy.

3: Dead? I don't think so. We aren't out to conquer the torrent scene by any means, but I'd say we're very much alive by our standards and goals.

4: Who cares? We haven't matched capacity yet so I really could care less about those users right now. And why should you or any other user care?

Your logic is seriously flawed IMO. But we all have our opinions. And I'm a bit confused with how you say it's bad that we lead rather than follow everyone else.

PS: All sites use pretty much the same auto. Coded by different people of course (well, unless you count the ones sold to all the sites who didn't create their own), but same parts ;)