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OVH to accept customers from all countries
This was posted in the OVH forums on Monday, but I didn't see a topic about it here yet. Hope it's not a repost.
http://forum.ovh.co.uk/showthread.php?t=601
Hello,
We talked a few weeks / months ago about the fraud that we encounter every day. These payments are made with stolen credit cards. 2 years ago, we implemented a system which can detect quite a few fraudulant payments but now we have a considerable amount of payments that we cancel every day: more than 70 payments to cancel a day, always the same hackers. Other payments with stolen credit cards manage to get through undetected and are then detected too late. The hacker takes advantage of the service for several days (before the owner of the card cancels the payment). Meanwhile the hacker creates phishing pages, scans networks, etc..
Recently, these frauds have gone extremely far as the hackers have the true identities of the owner of the credit cards, phone, address, etc.. To sum up, currently we are not able to know beforehand if it is a true hacker or a real client. The amount of fraudulant transactions rises to several tens thousands of Euros a day! And those who manage these kinds of problems every day are close to suicide ...
That is why we will implement a verification system to verify customer identity that's
MUCH deeper than expected.
IMPORTANT:
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There is no change for existing customers. If you are already a client at Ovh, nothing changes for you.
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The changes are only for the new customers who place their first orders at Ovh.
> For customers: FR, BE, CH, LU, DE, AT, PL, UK, IE, ES, PT
Starting from tomorrow, new customers must indicate an SMS number in the country where they live (and thus enter the real information about the country and mobile number). If you do not have a mobile phone, you will not be able to place an order at Ovh. The system will block before placing the order. By SMS the customer receives a 4-digit code that he must type to place the order. Then he will be able to pay and receive the service.
From August, once the customer has made the payment paid, realization of the order will not begin immediately. The client will receive within 24h/48h a letter by post with a 4-digit code that he will have to enter in order to start the realisation of the order. If after 10 days, the customer has not entered the code, the order will be cancelled and payment will be refunded automatically. We prefer to cancel the payment because there is no cancellation fee. However, if payment is cancelled by the bank we have a lot of expenses. Then if the rate of cancellation is too important, Visa or MasterCard refuse payment and everything is blocked.
From September, the customer may not have the SMS or not receive the letter with the code (one of these 2), but must type the code that will appear in his account. If after 10 days the client has not entered the 2 codes out of 3, the order will be cancelled and the payment will be refunded automatically.
> For customers other than: FR, BE, CH, LU, DE, AT, PL, UK, IE, ES, PT
> From September, we can accept clients who do not live in countries
where Ovh has developed the market. However to avoid fraud he will have to type the 3 codes (mandatory): The SMS, the postal address in the country where he lives and the code in his account. If one of these 3 is not entered the order is cancelled and the payment refunded automatically.
All these measures will help reduce fraud. Then for usual customers this will reduce the time for achieving the order since they will go through without manual verification of the payment (with sometimes sending documents by fax). Also, we will accept payments from new countries that we currently refuse (as the likelihood of fraud is too important). But most importantly the new system will enable us to implement strong verification regarding reseller accounts and to enable you to save money long-term with OVH and with no frauds or unpayments to manage.
These measures are very paranoid, but this is only to continue to provide you the services. Indeed, with the current level of fraud, our business model is challenged, the network security is not correct and there are a lot of misunderstanding or false debates such as "The server is available in 1 hour, yes but I have not received anything, normal! your payment is being verified, yes, but you already have 3 servers at Ovh ...".
Following these measures, the hackers should move towards our competitors which will in turn increase their security against fraud. We think it will take between 1 and 3 months for the market to be a t this level of security (if it's not already done yet). Our competitors will have no choice but to react to this level of fraud.
Do not hesitate to give us your feedback.
Regards,
Octave
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Re: OVH to accept customers from all countries
That's good news. Thanks for sharing that here.
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Re: OVH to accept customers from all countries
Sounds great. I bet a lot of OVH resellers are crying right now, though.
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nice notice bye ressellers
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Re: OVH to accept customers from all countries
hopefully this works out for them, and there aren't any delays.
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Re: OVH to accept customers from all countries
Great news. I've been messing around with resellers. Will love to buy direct!
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Originally Posted by
lysine
hopefully this works out for them, and there aren't any delays.
Well, no delay, but you will need to validate your first order with 3 codes. So, do not expect to get it within the next two days. :D
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Re: OVH to accept customers from all countries
This is very, very good news indeed!
I wish all bad luck to cheaters, scammers, thieves and scum of the same range..
Peace & love brothers. :)
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Re: OVH to accept customers from all countries
Ovh is about to make so much money.
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Nice. Thanks for the information.
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That would be nice.
No more need to pay EUR 25 more to reseller.
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Originally Posted by
extr3m3
where Ovh has developed the market.!
Dont get to excited yet.
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Originally Posted by
slayer2005
Who do not live in those countries....
Read it again and again before u clearly understand and post.
Of course we cant be excited until it really happens.
Honest i dont think OVH will ever open Dedicated Servers to countrys they do not operate... it would be a mass order and it will ending fucking their network and reputation.
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HOLY CHIT ... omg omg this is incredible news... ya i won't have to pay all the extra euros to seedhost if this happens ...
jesus its incredible... i could prob get a gbit server for whta i'm paying now ... WOW... only problem i hate to have to move the whole server config etc...
but by god it worth it ... oh man...
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Originally Posted by
Raban
HOLY CHIT ... omg omg this is incredible news... ya i won't have to pay all the extra euros to seedhost if this happens ...
jesus its incredible... i could prob get a gbit server for whta i'm paying now ... WOW... only problem i hate to have to move the whole server config etc...
but by god it worth it ... oh man...
Yeah, I imagined how upset that guy was when he first heard about it.. You have to assume he was making decent profits, the site is well-known. Oh well, maybe he can lower prices and try something else.
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Originally Posted by
integral
Yeah, I imagined how upset that guy was when he first heard about it.. You have to assume he was making decent profits, the site is well-known. Oh well, maybe he can lower prices and try something else.
ya he's a nice guy and all but his prices are gouged out the ying-yang... in one fell swoop OVH will essentially put him out of business...
the waittimes are gonna be bad though when OVH starts this ... so i'll keep my server with him until my new one goes online hohoho its gone be sweet
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Re: OVH to accept customers from all countries
Great news indeed!!! Finally a proper seedbox for everyone!
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Re: OVH to accept customers from all countries
Awesome. I'm sick of forking over $40+ euros extra for the resellers.
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Re: OVH to accept customers from all countries
are they accepting (UAE .DUBAI)
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Re: OVH to accept customers from all countries
they are going to sell out fast. september 1st.
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Re: OVH to accept customers from all countries
hm..
and how about that address verification stuff?
What if some goes wrong?
giving them verified address don't sounds good to me.
seeding is illegal in the end of the day, that is like leaving business card after the crime......
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Dammit, they don't sell to the USA yet -_-
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Re: OVH to accept customers from all countries
They will never sell servers outside EU ! Now is impossible order server from EU and you want to order them from other country :D
What they meant buy selling everywhere was domains and hosting not dedi servers ...
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Originally Posted by
dance4
They will never sell servers outside EU ! Now is impossible order server from EU and you want to order them from other country :D
What they meant buy selling everywhere was domains and hosting not dedi servers ...
Ummm, they already accept orders from Quebec. Last I checked that was in Canada.
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They have currently suspended selling servers.
OVH smtimes says things and ten it dosent happen,thats y i said dont get to excited yet.
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Originally Posted by
puckface
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Originally Posted by
dance4
They will never sell servers outside EU ! Now is impossible order server from EU and you want to order them from other country :D
What they meant buy selling everywhere was domains and hosting not dedi servers ...
Ummm, they already accept orders from Quebec. Last I checked that was in Canada.
They have always accepted Quebec because it's a FR speaking region.
They wrote they would sell to other countries but at that time they didn't mention what services. Now we know that dedicated servers are not going to be sold outside Europe.
And in fact it's not the matter of promising and not fulfilling.
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so anyone is reselling OVH dedicated server here ?
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Originally Posted by
Nixdorf
so anyone is reselling OVH dedicated server here ?
seedhost.eu / PM slayers here in FST
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Originally Posted by
OmaRin0
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Originally Posted by
Nixdorf
so anyone is reselling OVH dedicated server here ?
seedhost.eu / PM slayers here in FST
too expensive!
jus use seedx.net
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Originally Posted by
hitman51
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Originally Posted by
OmaRin0
seedhost.eu / PM slayers here in FST
too expensive!
jus use seedx.net
yhea but seedx.net is shared servers.
resellers charge extra but its dedicated not shared with other people on ur box.
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Originally Posted by
slayer2005
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Originally Posted by
hitman51
too expensive!
jus use seedx.net
yhea but seedx.net is shared servers.
resellers charge extra but its dedicated not shared with other people on ur box.
meh i dont care i got 5 - 6 MB/s
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Re: OVH to accept customers from all countries
Resellers may make a profit but OVH takes fraud very seriously. You won't be able to get away with entering fake details etc :)
