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People act like they are so l33t when it comes to private torrent sites and invites. It's stupid there is no need for it!
I have noticed people with invitation or membership at a top site just talk crap to people who enquire about that stuff.
Anyone care to explain?
People act so deserving when it comes to private torrent sites and invites. It's stupid there is no need for it!
I have noticed people with no invitations or membership at a top site just beg people for invites.
Anyone care to explain?
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Really, it is partly due to the leveling system, as mark said.
This happened mostly due to the whole stupid level system.People feel like they have to be in the rarest tracker for some reason.
:dabs:
The community preaches "share share share", "seed or die" "keeping a good ratio".Quote:
Originally Posted by respawn40
But when it comes to free invites it's a big "fuck you n00b"
Do you honestly think you can just walk in and get an invite to a "high level" site? It's a high level site because it's hard to get into. You just joined, and I'm guessing you aren't in too many good trackers. Do you actively participate in your tracker's communities and this community? The only people that get the invites are those who deserve them. And quite frankly, not too many people often do.
Seems to me like a case of upstairs/downstairsQuote:
Originally Posted by respawn40
Sorry, but I don't know what that means :O LOL
But if I were to make a smart comeback, I'd say: Seems to me like a case of you not wanting to put effort into becoming trusted, helpful, etc. Seems like you just want an easy, quick way in. But there is none.
Perhaps you are not getting the message properly.
For most of those who are in top sites was hard to get them, and for sure it was not as the result of coming here, ask for something and served.
As we know how hard it was, it looks like kinda funny when people as soon as can post the first thing they do is asking for an invite to a top site, disrespecting at the same time to many good users that have been here for months and with very good credentials.
You are a funny guy and due to that you have been treated very good, in comparison with so many other cases.
It's mainly due to such wording on the sites as "only invite your friends and those whom you trust, or you risk your entire invite tree being disabled", so it turns into a sort of protectionism and self preservation of sorts.
And when you realise that inviting noobs from here that openly post requests is considered a serious enough offence for some to lose their accounts, or their privileges such as invites removed for life, and if you have been around long enough to see 100s of requests and 100s of failures it's easy to fall into a condescending mode, don't be upset by it, embrace it and join in the fun, post funny & sarcy & witty responses back, people will remember you more for that than getting all huffy and offended by posts on the interwebz :)
It's the old adage, and cliché, of make friends and prove to others that a site is missing out on not having you as a member, rather than persistently posting & begging for an invite.
Remember, less is equal to more.
:) im not upset by it SgtMajor I enjoy the banter here that is why I came back after my original post.Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtMajor
I suppose I have let the FTN thing get to my head lol and today seeing all the "i want ftn" threads set me off.
I just hate the fact I don't have enough history to gain entrance to the top sites I hate the feeling of being so new lol
Then try being old :unsure:
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Originally Posted by Halliwell
Referencing British society where the wealthy lived upstairs while their servants lived downstairs.Quote:
Originally Posted by respawn40
A class system.
Ah, OK.
to be honest there are prob only about 5 people that I know of reg'd here I would send an invite to for any tracker.
Reason being I know them well enough.
Now you can call me a snob or whatever you like I don't care
The reason for it is the important thing they are either poeple I known a very long time or I know of and seen them about top sites etc.
This does not mean others can not work there way into that list who are here or people that join here in the near future could already be in that list.
If this upsets people then tuff it is the way I have been all my torrenting life and aint about to change :)
Offtopic sorryQuote:
Originally Posted by Duckater
Spoiler: ShowCan I ask is your torrent site an invitation only site Duckater. I have heard people say you own one, that's about I know to be honest.
I might be wrong but weren't you bragging earlier in a thread about how fast you were invited to a high lvl tracker.Quote:
Originally Posted by respawn40
I have seen a lot of post by you and another member (Krvaric) that joined here at FST in may 2008. I'm terribly sorry but pointing out to other members that they haven't been here long enough and other degrading comments that have nothing to do actual flaws in the requests (f.e. the minimum of effort they put into requesting invites) isn't really your duty and seems to me like a smart (sic.) way to get your post-count higher with posts other than 'thank you' and 'good GA'.
Members that request high level trackers should be told how getting really works, but making fun of them for your own 'glory' shouldn't be the goal of your posts.
:cool:
Its all pretty fucked up.
We as human beings are driven to look for things we cant have.
The sticky What Invites Are Worth made it more and more obvious to ppl that they cant have those trackers, so everybody searching for them. Many of them are jst looking to reach an objective, to feel important, others to get real money selling them. Who knows...
Ive never been anytime a member of a tracker higher than lvl.7 and well I wasnt looking for anything above that. Anyway even if ive not been a member of Id doubt that those higher lvl. trackers (except a couple of dedicated ones) have much if anything to offer u cant find in other sites.
Furthermore what makes these trackers so rare is that everyone's looking for them itself.
I have jst one advice to give to whom are reading this thread. Dont jst suck asses and force posts here, or begin to collect trackers to get rep points. Im not one of ur parents but hey u will blow up ur own life and ull throw away a lot a lot of precious time by doing meaningless things.
DO U WANT FILESHARING? DO U WANNA DL?
WHAT U WANT IS RIGHT UNDER UR NOSE ;)
I was just telling him what I have heard from other members of FST. I'm sorry if you found my post to be degrading to him, but it really wasn't meant to be so. I try to be nice in my posts, but occasionally I fail at that :P And I can't recall ever bragging about getting into any trackers =/Quote:
Originally Posted by DismeI might be wrong but weren't you bragging earlier in a thread about how fast you were invited to a high lvl tracker.Quote:
Originally Posted by respawn40
I have seen a lot of post by you and another member (Krvaric) that joined here at FST in may 2008. I'm terribly sorry but pointing out to other members that they haven't been here long enough and other degrading comments that have nothing to do actual flaws in the requests (f.e. the minimum of effort they put into requesting invites) isn't really your duty and seems to me like a smart (sic.) way to get your post-count higher with posts other than 'thank you' and 'good GA'.
Members that request high level trackers should be told how getting really works, but making fun of them for your own 'glory' shouldn't be the goal of your posts.
:cool:
I do to occasionally ... guess I am in a sensible period right now ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by respawn40
Its all pretty fucked up.
We as human beings are driven to look for things we cant have.
The sticky What Invites Are Worth made it more and more obvious to ppl that they cant have those trackers, so everybody searching for them. Many of them are jst looking to reach an objective, to feel important, others to get real money selling them. Who knows...
Ive never been anytime a member of a tracker higher than lvl.7 and well I wasnt looking for anything above that. Anyway even if ive not been a member of Id doubt that those higher lvl. trackers (except a couple of dedicated ones) have much if anything to offer u cant find in other sites.
Furthermore what makes these trackers so rare is that everyone's looking for them itself.
I have jst one advice to give to whom are reading this thread. Dont jst suck asses and force posts here, or begin to collect trackers to get rep points. Im not one of ur parents but hey u will blow up ur own life and ull throw away a lot a lot of precious time by doing meaningless things.
DO U WANT FILESHARING? DO U WANNA DL?
WHAT U WANT IS RIGHT UNDER UR NOSE http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../.....ilies/wink.gif
i was just about to type the exact same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ali-g
they are closed for security, they have 1000-5000 members max, they will never go over there max, your chances of getting in are slim to 0.
TL has 150,000+ members (i think) we have 50,000+ members, maths tell you not everyone can get into every tracker thats out there.
the WTAW puts those smaller sites on a pedastal, and you have very little chance of every getting in, so why are they even in the list.
ive said this before and i know it will be useless to say it again, but im going to anyway.
scrap lvls based on how hard it is to get in, its pointless, and base it on more what they are used for, sharing, how easy hard is it to keep a ratio, how friendly are the staff, would you actually like it.
lets face it the reviews are crap most of the time, a few screenshots and thats it, you dont know if its for you until you get in there, if you cant get in there, why even try. and if there was a little bit more info on what they were like, and you scrapped the rarity lvls, most wouldnt want them anyway (with the exception of a couple)
I agree fully. It's just human nature to try and be apart of something that's secretive, selective, and secluded, as it makes you feel like you are above the majority.
Get to know people. If you don't do that then the "high level" tracker you get won't mean shit. It's like the people begging for FTN. When they get it, they will be disappointed unless they know other active members on that tracker. After all, what is FTN but a nice community?
If you want a site solely for the 0-day torrents, then Sct, TL, SCC are the ones you should be looking for.
its all about the e-penis. those who are in top level sites have huge e-penises, when someone so new to torrenting comes here and expects to get right into every site they want just because they asked for it once they are acting like an e-pussy and naturally all the biggest e-penises will come out of the woodwork to fuck them good and hard. it may hurt at first, but its for your own good.
disclaimer: i am fucking kidding, please dont reply to this as if i meant any of it. also ive always wanted to use the term e-penis and e-pussy in the same post.......... check that one off the list.
Sometimes, I feel that with this whole invites and levels thing, people have forgotten what piracy really is about
Getting what you want, whenever you want, as fast as you can
Although I guess it's impossible to have a closed community without uber rare invites, and uber rare invites is what makes the whole levels system what it is
Thanks for the laugh , too funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by aysomc
Sadly, I don't think you can ever undo the whole levels system. Even if you were to get rid of the WTAW, you would still have the same levels things on other websites, all throughout the internet. And I think that people would still remember tracker X as X Level.
Agreed^^^, sad but most likely true, unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by respawn40
The levels are there just to tell traders what they can expect to get for whatever invites they have. FTN invites are few and demonoid invites are many, simple as that. People forget that has nothing to do with the content/staff/speeds etc. That's what the reviews and bracketed number things are for
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Originally Posted by Halliwell
oh well tough sh*t such is life
Contribute constructively to the forum or group from where you are requesting invites and guess what will happen :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Halliwell
This does happen way too often. Some people on this site think their the shit because of some tracker they got invited to. Instead of talking down to people who inquire, seasoned users should offer advice (which some do).Quote:
Originally Posted by Halliwell
Sadly, some individuals here try to use their epenis to compensate for their real penis...
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Originally Posted by SgtMajor
could'nt have said it better myself :yup:
The real question is: why are some users so presumptuous to think they belong in every tracker? After all it is mostly greed, which erupts inside of them when asking for an invite they have no use for.
The fact people want to get what is almost impossible to obtain is just human nature I guess ... the things that are hard (or impossible) to get are far more attractive than the things you get for free!Quote:
Originally Posted by DV8type
But I don't like the members at FST that have every high level tracker there is (you know who you are) and who feel they to behave like complete *ssholes when some member at FST requests an invite.
Instead of telling them how to get an invite (you won't get it with 15 post and 2 months of membership here) they get their own satisfaction by bashing the poor shmuck that asks for the invite, because they feel smart for being a member of the tracker. The only thing they forget to tell is how exactly they became a part of it...by trade...by semi trading invite GA's...by not having a life and being able to participate in a trackers IRC for 20 hours a day.
Some people here get into high level trackers, not based on their value for the community, but just based on the amount of free time they have in their 'real' life. They don't have a life and have more than enough time to spend evrey second on the interwebs, making socalled friends that get them into higher level trackers ... and it is exactly that kind of people who start flaming on n00bs that are asking for invites.
That's what bothers me sometimes. If you are a member of this or that high level tracker, just shut your jap or give the OP some good advice instead of being a complete posh *sshole and making fun of them.
I'm sorry but all those 1-sentence requests are useless, I know that ... but newbies should be told this is not the way to get into these kind of trackers. But instead of telling them how they get into these trackers there are some members at FST that like to flame these people with arguments that aren't based on giving advise but just to show off, because they are already part off the community the OP is asking an invite for.
It's just the human nature. The harder to get the more you want it. Believe me, if it wouldn't be very hard to get into a site, the interest would be very small. I think almost every 0day site has the same content so you can find almost anything you want in a low level (meh) tracker aswell. And i hate when someone is answering "Community" for the question "Why do u want it?". He doesn't know sh*t about that community, he doesn't know what's going on on their forums & irc. It's all about the rarity.Quote:
Originally Posted by DV8type
And yeah, belong to a rare site makes you feel 'special'. lol...
I'd ban everyone from a 0day tracker with <X download, and ban everyone from a community based tracker with <Y post or irc time. It's harsh maybe, but if you don't use them, why are you there? Just my 2 cents...
You might have something there :P although some trackers would be stuck inbtwn :shifty:Quote:
Originally Posted by waki
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by DV8type
funny i didn't think about that tracker when i was writing the post
mybad :]
Presumably not the first day though.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by waki
70% get invited for kissing ass, 10% come in for being sharp and has knowledge and 20% come in for being a friend of either one.
That should sum it up pretty good. :shutup: