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Antivirous : NOD 32 vs Kaspersky
Hi there .......
Pple said NOD 32 is the best antivirus in the world !!!!!!!!!!
Well I was looking for antivirus 3 months ago and while i was surfing this thread
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-sof...ou-use-95387/?
I found out that NOD 32 is the best antivirus , not one or two persons said that but hundred .
so i download the program and everything went great , find viruses , it doesn't take too much from processor and updating everyday .
But does NOD 32 clean all viruses ????? that what i have noticed today .
I used NOD 32 to scan my flash disc , and i found that there is a virus ( 1 virus as NOD 32 said ) , and i scanned it using Kaspersky 2009 and i found 55 virus ( waaaaaaaaaaw ) that's after NOD32 has scanned the flash !!!!!!!
what does that's mean ???
is NOD32 Bad antivirus ?? or it's not complete version ( I cracked it and i can update it everyday ) ??
Or is Kaspersky detect unharmfull files and delete them ????
I need an answer cause i'm almost confused ( and i can't install both program on the same laptop ) :frusty::frusty:
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Re: Antivirous : NOD 32 vs Kaspersky
I've tried NOD 32 but found that I prefer Kaspersky.
It just comes down to user preference, there is no superior Anti-Virus.
Only problem Ive found with Kaspersky is that the keys are being blacklisted more and more frequently.
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ya u are completely right
but u can find new keys and that's not a problem cause when u see the problem on front of ur eyes better than it's hidden .
NOD32 have too much hidden problem , that's a big problem cause u need to recognize it first then fix it .
But kaspersky told u where is ur problem so u need only to fix it .
so u prefer Kaspersky , then we are 2 now ...
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Re: Antivirous : NOD 32 vs Kaspersky
I have used both for many times and i must say that Kaspersky is little better than nod32...
Kaspersky use more advance technology and also he probably my favorit feature that he can even detect if some program like office or something else have vulnerability and he will show that to u..
and this new Kaspersky 2009 is just great
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Re: Antivirous : NOD 32 vs Kaspersky
kaspersky is BEST however now recent Norton Internet Securoty 2008 takin less resources and detected few viruses which neither Nod or Kaspersky did. I prefer Kaspersky over Nod
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Originally Posted by
maverick_andy
...Norton 2008... detected few viruses which neither Nod or Kaspersky did...
Please elaborate. Which viruses? Whose test? Where are the test results?
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Originally Posted by
Chewie
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Originally Posted by
maverick_andy
...Norton 2008... detected few viruses which neither Nod or Kaspersky did...
Please elaborate. Which viruses? Whose test? Where are the test results?
here are PIcs hope it will ans to ur queries:happy:
http://i34.tinypic.com/2zz401v.jpg
Though Norton IS 2008 shows remove failed becoz it was in rar file:). After wards I manually deleted that rar file.Those files which are not rared they are removed by NIS. NOW i hv both KIS 2009 and NIS 2008. before manually deleting those rar files, I scanned with KIS, NOD which shows no results. One thing is true no antivirus is 100% assure u free frm viruses:frusty:
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Re: Antivirous : NOD 32 vs Kaspersky
I am using kaspersky mainly for the application filtering feature.
Even if a virus pass, if it hasn't digital signature, it will be classified as restricted and won't get network access and start up privileges.
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Although i use NOd32 i see all of AV's as crap, in event you got infected non of them can help you, you must do it yourself cuz most of bad virus mostly spyware and adware are integrated in the windows files like Win Explorer and these Av's software's cant do shit about it, most of the job is done manually by shutting down the "in-use" programs to delete them manually, and even if you do so you'll end up with Run.dll problems on next bootup.
IMO all these Av's are useful in one thing which is detecting; which makes it only 50% of virus protection.
Take a word of advice from me, keep away from non trusted sites/application and always have latest backup of your system before stepping into unknown, most of the times i simply role back, it just takes 15 min instead of removing infected IE and then affiliated infection and then reinstalling them to see error messages at boot up which makes every thing you did pointless.
Get your cracks only from closed sites and even run a virus test on the files taken from there, cuz last time i downloaded Nod32 from torrentLeech to upgrade from older version the crack attached to it had spyware, automatic protection of Nod32 caught it only after installing the crack which by then was pointless and i had to 1.visit tons of sites to find solution 2.try tons of softwares to remove the problem which non of them worked 3.Close Explorer 4.Remove three infection from win32 5.edit bootup options. all over all took around 1/5 hrs(incl finding infection).
in my own time once read all said above but found it ridiculous which you may find it as well but trust me you will come to the point where you will recall what said in regards to anti virus's in this reply.
on topic, KAV and NOD32 and most of commercial AV's list cracks as malware so if you're sure that where ever you took those cracks wont screw you and you have read the comments made on those downloads you can ignore the warnings. just keep all of your games and software's which are cracked in one folder and except that folder from automatic scanning.
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Nod32 seems to work fine for me. I haven't had any virus or any other attacks during the time i've been using it.
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Originally Posted by
Sanka113
Nod32 seems to work fine for me. I haven't had any virus or any other attacks during the time i've been using it.
again its all upto how a person uses internet/pc, if your clever enough and know your way around you'll most probably never find out how efficient is your AV.
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Re: Antivirous : NOD 32 vs Kaspersky
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Originally Posted by
BawA
IMO all these Av's are useful in one thing which is detecting; which makes it only 50% of virus protection.
Did you try KIS v.8 ?
Because it has not only detection it has proactive defense, application filtering and behavior blocker.http://i34.tinypic.com/2akd24y.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/2ebqv7l.jpg
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Originally Posted by
sert
I am using kaspersky mainly for the application filtering feature.
Even if a virus pass, if it hasn't digital signature, it will be classified as restricted and won't get network access and start up privileges.
ya that's right , I noticed these features after I i get rid off NOD32 .
Kaspersky look great , but it's heavy on my PC , I started scanning my PC yesterday and it takes 12 hour to finish it ( have 350 giga hard drive ) .
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Originally Posted by
BawA
Although i use NOd32 i see all of AV's as crap, in event you got infected non of them can help you, you must do it yourself cuz most of bad virus mostly spyware and adware are integrated in the windows files like Win Explorer and these Av's software's cant do shit about it, most of the job is done manually by shutting down the "in-use" programs to delete them manually, and even if you do so you'll end up with Run.dll problems on next bootup.
IMO all these Av's are useful in one thing which is detecting; which makes it only 50% of virus protection.
Take a word of advice from me, keep away from non trusted sites/application and always have latest backup of your system before stepping into unknown, most of the times i simply role back, it just takes 15 min instead of removing infected IE and then affiliated infection and then reinstalling them to see error messages at boot up which makes every thing you did pointless.
Get your cracks only from closed sites and even run a virus test on the files taken from there, cuz last time i downloaded Nod32 from torrentLeech to upgrade from older version the crack attached to it had spyware, automatic protection of Nod32 caught it only after installing the crack which by then was pointless and i had to 1.visit tons of sites to find solution 2.try tons of softwares to remove the problem which non of them worked 3.Close Explorer 4.Remove three infection from win32 5.edit bootup options. all over all took around 1/5 hrs(incl finding infection).
in my own time once read all said above but found it ridiculous which you may find it as well but trust me you will come to the point where you will recall what said in regards to anti virus's in this reply.
on topic, KAV and NOD32 and most of commercial AV's list cracks as malware so if you're sure that where ever you took those cracks wont screw you and you have read the comments made on those downloads you can ignore the warnings. just keep all of your games and software's which are cracked in one folder and except that folder from automatic scanning.
Great advices :yup::yup::yup:...
I have experienced some of them ,and I will put the others in my mind .
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Originally Posted by
Sanka113
Nod32 seems to work fine for me. I haven't had any virus or any other attacks during the time i've been using it.
me too , but the problem is : did u try kaspersky ? did u scanned ur pc after NOD32 scanned them ?
I did and i found hundred of viruses .
so i advice u to try b4 somethin happened to ur PC :yup::yup:
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Originally Posted by
BawA
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Originally Posted by
Sanka113
Nod32 seems to work fine for me. I haven't had any virus or any other attacks during the time i've been using it.
again its all upto how a person uses internet/pc, if your clever enough and know your way around you'll most probably never find out how efficient is your AV.
Even if a person entered safe sites , i'm sure that viruses come from other sources , like i said my flash disk contains 55 viruses that's after NOD32 has scanned it .
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Re: Antivirous : NOD 32 vs Kaspersky
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Originally Posted by
sert
those aren't average users setting, if it isnt auto set up then 90% of its users wont dare going near to those setting. changing one of those setting may prevent a needed program to access the rights.
from what i understand from those pics is that you can apply rules to certain application, well when a virus hits you; you wont get time to set the parameters :shutup:
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Originally Posted by
BawA
those aren't average users setting, if it isnt auto set up then 90% of its users wont dare going near to those setting. changing one of those setting may prevent a needed program to access the rights.
from what i understand from posted pics is that you can apply rules for certain application, well when a virus is hit you wont get time to set the parameters :shutup:
+1 thats true.
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Originally Posted by
BawA
Although i use NOd32 i see all of AV's as crap, in event you got infected non of them can help you, you must do it yourself cuz most of bad virus mostly spyware and adware are integrated in the windows files like Win Explorer and these Av's software's cant do shit about it, most of the job is done manually by shutting down the "in-use" programs to delete them manually, and even if you do so you'll end up with Run.dll problems on next bootup.
IMO all these Av's are useful in one thing which is detecting; which makes it only 50% of virus protection.
I've never had a problem removing infected files detected by KIS. Sometimes the system will need to be rebooted but that's only when I've installed it on an already infected system.
Kaspersky is also very good at disinfecting files - where the original Windows file (executable, dll or whatever) has been infected then it's usually recoverable but if it's been replaced by a custom built file then it's a case of delete and replace with the original version.
This is a moot point, to be honest, since if KIS was running in the background anyway, the virus is almost always caught before it can take hold.
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Originally Posted by
BawA
Take a word of advice from me, keep away from non trusted sites/application and always have latest backup of your system before stepping into unknown, most of the times i simply role back, it just takes 15 min instead of removing infected IE and then affiliated infection and then reinstalling them to see error messages at boot up which makes every thing you did pointless.
Remove infected IE? How would you manage that on Vista?
Sounds like this happened to someone you know and they didn't know what to do about it so just bumbled along blindly.
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Originally Posted by
BawA
Get your cracks only from closed sites and even run a virus test on the files taken from there, cuz last time i downloaded Nod32 from torrentLeech to upgrade from older version the crack attached to it had spyware, automatic protection of Nod32 caught it only after installing the crack which by then was pointless and i had to 1.visit tons of sites to find solution 2.try tons of softwares to remove the problem which non of them worked 3.Close Explorer 4.Remove three infection from win32 5.edit bootup options. all over all took around 1/5 hrs(incl finding infection).
in my own time once read all said above but found it ridiculous which you may find it as well but trust me you will come to the point where you will recall what said in regards to anti virus's in this reply.
Since a crack will need to modify or replace files, they cannot be in use at the time it is applied. This would indicate that NOD32 wasn't running when you applied the crack.
How can NOD32 be to blame for not detecting it when it was applied?
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Originally Posted by
BawA
on topic, KAV and NOD32 and most of commercial AV's list cracks as malware so if you're sure that where ever you took those cracks wont screw you and you have read the comments made on those downloads you can ignore the warnings. just keep all of your games and software's which are cracked in one folder and except that folder from automatic scanning.
Now you're just talking out of your arse.
AVG apparently detects and deletes keygens but I haven't heard of any other AV doing this.
Most AV programs will detect riskware such as P2P programs or those that can drop ad-/spy-ware and sometimes patches but this is not enabled by default.
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Originally Posted by
BawA
those aren't average users setting, if it isnt auto set up then 90% of its users wont dare going near to those setting. changing one of those setting may prevent a needed program to access the rights.
from what i understand from those pics is that you can apply rules to certain application, well when a virus hits you; you wont get time to set the parameters :shutup:
How can you know what are standard settings when you haven't seen the program in action? KIS has always used standard settings for known programs/processes so the user doesn't need to approve every action of every process the first time it's run.
The exclamation symbols mean that when a process attempts to perform the action, the user will be asked to allow or deny it. There's an option in the requester for the action taken to be permanent.
This means that an unknown process such as a new virus will, when attempting to access startup settings for instance, activate the application control module in KIS so your argument that you don't have time to react is completely inaccurate.
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Since a crack will need to modify or replace files, they cannot be in use at the time it is applied. This would indicate that NOD32 wasn't running when you applied the crack.
How can NOD32 be to blame for not detecting it when it was applied?
cuz the crack it self was bundled in a exe archive, once run the virus was applied then it was caught, by the time it was late.
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Now you're just talking out of your arse.
AVG apparently detects and deletes keygens but I haven't heard of any other AV doing this.
Most AV programs will detect riskware such as P2P programs or those that can drop ad-/spy-ware and sometimes patches but this is not enabled by default.
no buddy you replied out of your arse, if you had not seen such dont be sure about what you think, ive experienced NOD32 detecting and deleting my game cracks which were as clean as a water, and am not talking about one or two.
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This means that an unknown process such as a new virus will, when attempting to access startup settings for instance, activate the application control module in KIS so your argument that you don't have time to react is completely inaccurate.
that only IF virus is caught.
anyway since you insets so much i must try KIS
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Re: Antivirous : NOD 32 vs Kaspersky
I like many malware programs but prefer Nod32 , its just user friendly . I switched to XP Pro 64 BIT O/S and found Eset just seems so quiet and uses so little resources and lets me go about my way .
I still use a Trojan program to protect me tho , as you can't be too careful . As others have pointed out if your just surfing the net any would be fine . I try maybe 3 or 4 cracked programs a week which include ken gens or cracks , so have to be on guard .
I use a site too that scans files for crap or malware , you just upload the folder in question and there you go . In 15 years of computing I'v never had a virus , Trojans are another matter .
Link : http://virusscan.jotti.org/
You'll notice that it has twenty or so programs that scan for malware but gives you a few false positives so its really a trade off , use at your own risk of course .
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Re: Antivirous : NOD 32 vs Kaspersky
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Originally Posted by
BawA
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Since a crack will need to modify or replace files, they cannot be in use at the time it is applied. This would indicate that NOD32 wasn't running when you applied the crack.
How can NOD32 be to blame for not detecting it when it was applied?
cuz the crack it self was bundled in a exe archive, once run the virus was applied then it was caught, by the time it was late.
It doesn't matter how the trojan is delivered in this case. The point is that a crack CANNOT patch files that are in use; this is why the nfo always tells you to make sure the program isn't running when applying the patch.
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Originally Posted by
BawA
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Now you're just talking out of your arse.
AVG apparently detects and deletes keygens but I haven't heard of any other AV doing this.
Most AV programs will detect riskware such as P2P programs or those that can drop ad-/spy-ware and sometimes patches but this is not enabled by default.
no buddy you replied out of your arse, if you had not seen such dont be sure about what you think, ive experienced NOD32 detecting and deleting my game cracks which were as clean as a water, and am not talking about one or two.
You're talking out of your arse when you tell the world that MOST AV software behaves in this manner, which it does not, while basing your assumption on personal experience of a single program - one, it has to be said, that has a reputation for the least false-positives and an unmatched run of 100% detection rate in respected professional tests.
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BawA
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This means that an unknown process such as a new virus will, when attempting to access startup settings for instance, activate the application control module in KIS so your argument that you don't have time to react is completely inaccurate.
that only IF virus is caught.
What do you mean "IF"? That's how malware unknown to the AV is caught FFS.
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Re: Antivirous : NOD 32 vs Kaspersky
Well anyone have trouble updating today ? Ya me too but did get update 3322. What a hassle reminds me why I quit KIS , too many black keys .
I used nodlogin 9.4 and a link for user names and passwords , seems to work for now ...... If anyone needs help just pm as I can't post a link .:(
Version 3.0.669.0 Eset Smart Security .
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kaspersky is better than nod32 on the side of protection, cleaning...
but nod32 uses lesser system sources and is more friendly...
i personally prefer Nod32 and using it for a year...
i was previously using kaspersky, but i got bored of being blacklisted and kaspersky's getting stuck on some points...
Nod32 i say...
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i use kis and i have set it to ask me what to do in any case(called training mode)
that way i have full control of whats happening on my pc.
works great here
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I use KasperSky... Besides blacklisting of keys its the best
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Kis/desktop pc
nod32/laptop
KIS is the best.
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Kis/desktop pc
nod32/laptop
KIS is the best.
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tbh, antivirus just makes me feel safer, hasn't really done anything before, so NOD32 (which is what i use) over kaspersky cuz it takes less system resources. Other than that; according to some reviews, NOD32 is better and others, kaspersky is better. In my opinion, it's really a tie. Both i'm sure are great and will continue to be in the years to come.
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