Which rules in your tracker do you like/hate most ?

Which rules in your tracker do you like/hate most ?

For me

Hate
1.waitng time
2.ratio
3.1 ip address
4.parking(some site dont have a parking option)

Like
1.free leech
2.2x upload etc

I would like to have the option of using a second iP adress too. Lets say you donate 30Euro, you get a CT,listed as anonymous on the peer list, donation star, 50Gb uploaded and a second IP address. I think it would be fair.

Automatic infractions, I mean htf can you piss a machine off enough for it to give you a warning :huh:

Not mentioning other trackers in IRC/forum, especially TL.

TL's irc rules suck, they make you feel like you're a little kid in school again. I mean, I realize they want to hide the existence of (better) trackers from their users, so they don't lose customers, but censorship always sucks. ;)

The new 3 day seed time on ScT 0 day :pinch:

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Originally Posted by integral

Not mentioning other trackers in IRC/forum, especially TL.

TL's irc rules suck, they make you feel like you're a little kid in school again. I mean, I realize they want to hide the existence of (better) trackers from their users, so they don't lose customers, but censorship always sucks. ;)

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I got a 1 week warning from 1 UK site for PMing someone an offer of an invite to another tracker, so go figure how they knew what was in my PM?? :angry:

So add that to the list, reading my fukkin PMs!! (Private Messages, they are private for a reason!)

in no particular order

lack of account parking - I'm going to be OOF for about 3 months soon and won't be surprised if some of my accounts get pruned.

lack of multiple genres for movies at movie trackers - If I want to browse romantic comedies or sci-fi horror flicks then I don't want to have to know the title of the film I'm looking for.

rars - because they suck and are a waste of space. If the same thing exists on another tracker in non-rar form I'll go to that other tracker and pick it up.

Pay2Leech - I'm often donating to sites that I'm a member of, unless it has a P2L policy. If it does, I avoid donating.

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Originally Posted by SgtMajor

So add that to the list, reading my fukkin PMs!! (Private Messages, they are private for a reason!)

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Kinda reminds me of an old FST thread :whistling

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4.parking(some site dont have a parking option)

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you're reading my mind man :P
@scl for cadet it was 7 days wtf!:wacko: but now Without Parking - 2 weeks :) ...
about TL and sct 42 days but there is no park section...upload TBs but when you go to military or lost your connection or moving new city bump ...
i dont know they wanna keep active leech and seed:unsure: but park section must be...we saw some1 disable from TL for working college exams(ahh i am hearing how can:lol: but there is million reason for parking account)

i love no ratio system tracker i have a few but this is nice no1 worry about e-penis:lol: (at least i :unsure: :P )...

"..... or seed for minimum of 48/72 hrs CONTINUOUSLY." :sick:

i like all the rules in "my" tracker, because well, i had a hand in making them lol

what i hate in general is

Freeleech
2* Upload

if you download it, seed the fucking thing back, its not hard.

what if the uploader just seeded 1/2 the torrent then pissed off.

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Originally Posted by stoi

i like all the rules in "my" tracker, because well, i had a hand in making them lol

what i hate in general is

Freeleech
2* Upload

if you download it, seed the fucking thing back, its not hard.

what if the uploader just seeded 1/2 the torrent then pissed off.

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site owners named stoi who pay no attention to slutty pm's on fst :P

For sure i hate IP address restriction.. and i mostly like.. hmm ... competitions !

The most I like. No Hit n Runs with SP. Ull guess which tracker has it :whistling

likes -

- chatty irc
- active forum
- goodie members
- sexay staffers
- request / offer section
- requests filled pretty quick
- competitions
- a way to help low connection users - be that by no ratio or by SI system. I personally am not a fan of freeleech.
- no minimum seeding requirement wh00t.
- home rippers and releasers. I like how the owner of XWT ripps weekly wrestling shows and uploads it asps.
- all content i ever wanted =]


dislikes-

- the status bar. I dislike the bar that shows my upload & my download (i don't mind # of torrent up or down though). Can't those infos be limited to user profile, imo it would look better.
- showing "average connection time" in status bar. It's a torture, for me at least :-\
- P2L. One of the site i am member of has it.

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Originally Posted by SgtMajor

I got a 1 week warning from 1 UK site for PMing someone an offer of an invite to another tracker, so go figure how they knew what was in my PM?? :angry:

So add that to the list, reading my fukkin PMs!! (Private Messages, they are private for a reason!)

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maybe the user whom u pm'ed reported u :whistling

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Originally Posted by SgtMajor

I got a 1 week warning from 1 UK site for PMing someone an offer of an invite to another tracker, so go figure how they knew what was in my PM?? :angry:

So add that to the list, reading my fukkin PMs!! (Private Messages, they are private for a reason!)

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waaa..i think this is the worst. How the hell is it called PM when it can be read by others? I thought PM stands for Private Message, not Public Message...:unsure:

btw, what I hate are the same as squirr3l

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Originally Posted by PlayeR

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Originally Posted by SgtMajor

I got a 1 week warning from 1 UK site for PMing someone an offer of an invite to another tracker, so go figure how they knew what was in my PM?? :angry:

So add that to the list, reading my fukkin PMs!! (Private Messages, they are private for a reason!)

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waaa..i think this is the worst. How the hell is it called PM when it can be read by others? I thought PM stands for Private Message, not Public Message...:unsure:

btw, what I hate are the same as squirr3l

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This isn't Soviet Russia; you're entitled to your opinion too. You should have just quoted them both and not typed anything, since that's what you basically did anyway. :frusty:

well i will say this, I have read 3 members PMs in 5 years of running a tracker.

1: A french member was getting death threats on our tracker from his sisters boyfriend, through PMs.

2: Another tracker was spamming BCG saying bad crap about me which was not true (this was when i first started out).

3: When the staff split last year, a member from over there was pming my members saying that their new tracker was going to be better than BCG ever could be, and getting members to sign up. so i checked and banned him, even though hes back now, btw he was not staff of BCG when the spplit happen, he just went with the flow.

That is the only times i have ever looked at anyones PMs, but i must admit it is very easy to do so. just go to the db and query a word in the PM field (like another trackers URL for example, and bingo, you can get everyone thats ever talked about that tracker.)

you could even make a mod that if certain words are PMed, then you get a PM with all the PMs that have that word when they happen.

But yes i do think PMs are private, so i only do it as a very very last resort, and even when i do it, i feel guilty as hell for doing it.

I 8:
- locked topics
- ratios (got slow upl speeds)
- "smart" people on forums who give shitty answers to others who request help
- when yre favorite tracker is down for a few days...
- publicity banners
- PM requesting donations
- seedboxes, I seed for years and never get a 1:1 ratio


Well these are not rules, more like facts

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Originally Posted by SgtMajor

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Originally Posted by integral

Not mentioning other trackers in IRC/forum, especially TL.

TL's irc rules suck, they make you feel like you're a little kid in school again. I mean, I realize they want to hide the existence of (better) trackers from their users, so they don't lose customers, but censorship always sucks. ;)

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I got a 1 week warning from 1 UK site for PMing someone an offer of an invite to another tracker, so go figure how they knew what was in my PM?? :angry:

So add that to the list, reading my fukkin PMs!! (Private Messages, they are private for a reason!)

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Indeed, Private means that exactly.

It´s about ethics, staff ethics.
At least they should warn users about the possibility that their PM could be read by staff, and used against them. If not it´s unethical.


About the topic, the thing I dislike the most is that script that disables users due to inactivity. There are situations that prevent users to login for certain period of time, many sites understand that and if the user contacts staff then your account is respected, but others don´t. And not always you know if you have to be out due to major causes.
I had an accident few months ago, it´s really really humiliating that being in a hospital bed or at home, like a mummy... full of bandages... all broken, and oneself has to be worried about a damn tracker, ask somebody to login for you, etc.

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Originally Posted by squirr3l

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Originally Posted by SgtMajor

I got a 1 week warning from 1 UK site for PMing someone an offer of an invite to another tracker, so go figure how they knew what was in my PM?? :angry:

So add that to the list, reading my fukkin PMs!! (Private Messages, they are private for a reason!)

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maybe the user whom u pm'ed reported u :whistling

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No, the user told me about it and I reported him - I just thought it inappropriate pm'ing strangers with invitations to a horse porn tracker.

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Originally Posted by integral

This isn't Soviet Russia; you're entitled to your opinion too. You should have just quoted them both and not typed anything, since that's what you basically did anyway. :frusty:

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LOL. What is your problem Integral? Does it bother you so much that you have to bang your head on the wall??
anyway, The rule does not say it is wrong. so I could care less about it :whistling

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Originally Posted by PlayeR

waaa..i think this is the worst. How the hell is it called PM when it can be read by others? I thought PM stands for Private Message, not Public Message...:unsure:

btw, what I hate are the same as squirr3l

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you do know that with sql access and a simple query form you can read any messages stored at any forum ? messages are stored at a database, you are never free of them being read, it all depends on the sysops ethics.

PM, like email cannot be assume to be private.....

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Originally Posted by squirr3l

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Originally Posted by SgtMajor

I got a 1 week warning from 1 UK site for PMing someone an offer of an invite to another tracker, so go figure how they knew what was in my PM?? :angry:

So add that to the list, reading my fukkin PMs!! (Private Messages, they are private for a reason!)

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maybe the user whom u pm'ed reported u :whistling

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No - he took the invites, my PM never made it to him!

I had to slip an email contact inside another PM showing "tech" help :whistling

I don't think one can "like" rules,its just something one has to obey/abide by. The rules that I particularly dislike are :-

1)Visible PMs- Now I find this quite ridiculous. If I pm a member on site and an admin sees it,it defeats the purpose of the PM plus if the PM is "controversial" then it could get you into serious trouble. I'd say,exert caution in Bitmetv especially coz you're under the scanner more often than not.

2) Trick Polls- This isn't a rule but something I'd like to see change. Banning members because they apparently didn't pick the "right" choice is immature and quite frankly it goes against community spirit. If you dont want your members to express their real opinion then wtf have a poll at all?

3)Seedbox Regulation- This isn't a rule,but I'd like to see this getting implemented.I'm not gonna discuss this in detail but rest assured ,seedboxers pretty much kill any chance of seeding back with a half-decent connection. Seeding shouldn't be a competition,it should be done with the "spirit of sharing" in mind. This is where BT has taken a wrong turn.

4)Open signup policy- I feel sites(the ones that NEVER open up) should open up(atleast once if not more) to give users a chance to enjoy their content. If Bitmetv,BCG,even Revolt opened up then why can't more quality sites open their doors? Torrenting for me is entertainment and enjoying what internet has to offer,I think torrent sites take themselves far too seriously. Eg:- AOM's highly ridiculous invite policy that expects a member to be a magician(well almost). All I'll say to them is be realistic and chill out.

5)The 1:1/hit n run- I'm not gonna discuss this in detail but know that getting 1:1 on hard to seed sites on every torrent is plain idiotic and this needs to be atleast amended if not eliminated.

Lastly, torrenting should be fun and not a burden!

i know i keep harping on about US is this thread but here is another one lol

1: we dont do that, so send what you like, as long as you dont get reported for doing it, and its within reason (no death threats, or this tracker has open sigups and its better that this one ever will be type shite)

2: Not once have i banned someone for voting what they voted in a poll.

3: With our SP mod, this nullifies the overseeding with SB, and what brings usually fast download speeds.

4: Yes we do it/have done it but its a pain in the ass banning all the cheaters etc.

5: again our SP system covers that, just seed the thing for awhile, and its not months and months to avoid a hit and run.

6: we try to make it fun, but a lot of members dont "get" our SP system and are just plain scared of it.

from a post by me on our forums, that not many have looked at lol

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Just a very quick rant here before i go to bed.

SP system is there so you can download what you want, when you want, does not matter if it is 0 day or 2 years old. after a week or so you can come off it if you like, you do not have to seed it for months on end, waiting for another leecher to jump on, and actually upload to someone to not get a hit and run.

If everyone downloaded what they wanted, then more members would be PU/SPU because there would be more leechers to upload to, instead of members being scared to download, which is completely missing the point of the SP system.

and this, i wont download because SP only takes me to a 1 ratio, is bullshit.

What do you do on other trackers, where you actually have to upload to get over a 1 ratio, but no leechers come on. at least you get a 1 ratio on here on every torrent, just for seeding for a few days, on other trackers, you could be seeding a torrent for months, to get a 1 ratio on the thing, never mind a 2 ratio.

So all these PU and SPU, do you never download a torrent that is not brand new, just incase you get demoted on other trackers?

Or do you just download and get the hit and run, but we have the hit and run covered with the SP system, and if you do just hit and run, then your global ratio will still go down.

I just do not understand some of the silly arguments i hear against the SP system we have, if everyone understood it, and just downloaded what they wanted, when they wanted it, very few members would actually need to use the SP system for any torrent, because you would have leechers to actually upload to on nearly every torrent.

Edit: Its actually easier to get PU SPU on here than on most sites.

Download old torrent, Get SP, wait for leecher, Upload .5 of the torrent, = 1.5 ratio = PU. upload 1.05 of the torrent = 2.05 Global ratio = SPU

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Thx for reciprocating.I forgot to add to my post that BCG is probably the only site that have implemented their truly superb and unique SP system that takes care of both seedbox abusers(if you will) and hit n runners. With such a system in place a user with a mediocre connection can feel he's in the right place.
It's a pity I'm shit out of time to play games,wish there was a BCM(Blackcats-Movies?) with an SP system,now that would be out of this world!

It's nice to see owners with a realistic approach to torrenting!

zOMG OMG STAFFERS CAN SEE MY PRIVATE MESSAGES.

seriously, u guys didn't think other wise, did you?

they OWN the site, they can literally do w/e the hell they want with their site and their userbase.

That is why you are supposed to signup for those sites you trust...not every site that pops out now and then.

Putting it in a different way, nothing is truly "private". Everything you do over the interwebz, can easily be tracked,...you real life background (social security, criminal history, school records, immunizations etc) can easily be obtained by authorities. On top of that, anything you own can be taken away by government. Is that "private" enough?

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What happened with Sgt is none of my business but looks like wheeloftime already answered his situation.

And Stoi checking 3 pms in 5 year (with valid reasons) is more than fair imo. If he didn't tell you, you would have nothing to bitch about it.

No posting of gore/beastiality etc. Why even make a torrent site if that material isn't allowed?

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Originally Posted by squirr3l

zOMG OMG STAFFERS CAN SEE MY PRIVATE MESSAGES.

seriously, u guys didn't think other wise, did you?

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I for one knew this happens(esp when tequilavip openly admitted it on bmtv).

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they OWN the site, they can literally do w/e the hell they want with their site and their userbase.

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Yes torrent sites can do whatever the hell they want. Professional companies can do whatever they want to their employees by laying down their policies. But that don't make it right!
If everyone would just keep quiet about it and let the atrocities/bullshit continue then it will go on endlessly and there will never be an improvement. Remember that both the admin and the members need to work in tandem for a torrent site or for any organisation to flourish.Sorry I don't quite agree with your "middle-of-the-road" viewpoint.

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That is why you are supposed to signup for those sites you trust...not every site that pops out now and then.

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This goes on rampantly in bitmetv which is an established site.(But yah I get your point).

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Originally Posted by soulreaper

2) Trick Polls- This isn't a rule but something I'd like to see change. Banning members because they apparently didn't pick the "right" choice is immature and quite frankly it goes against community spirit. If you dont want your members to express their real opinion then wtf have a poll at all?

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name me one tracker that does that.

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Originally Posted by soulreaper

I feel sites(the ones that NEVER open up) should open up(atleast once if not more) to give users a chance to enjoy their content. If Bitmetv,BCG,even Revolt opened up then why can't more quality sites open their doors? Torrenting for me is entertainment and enjoying what internet has to offer,I think torrent sites take themselves far too seriously. Eg:- AOM's highly ridiculous invite policy that expects a member to be a magician(well almost). All I'll say to them is be realistic and chill out.

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like previously said, owners of a tracker literally can do w/e the hell they want. They can make it freeleech, 2x upload, implement SI system or even close open sign up forever. Yes, you can moan and cry about it, but at the end it's their tracker....it's their choice. We (users) are just guest to private communities. And like a good guest, if you do not appreciate how they do it, leave.

AOM's invite policy is more than fair. They want to build a user base of folks who know stuff. I don't see what is wrong with that. If you are quite addicted to magic, then prove yourself, get involved, and i am sure you will get invited. If not, you prolly don't have to be there...there are alternatives.

Likewise, those tracker who wish to be closed made their choice. If you don't like it then be it. You don't have to be in every other tracker you know.

Additionally, open signup IS a disaster, it brings banned users, cheaters, dupe accounts, and hundred other troubles. Just ask stoi how many brazillian cheaters he gets for each time BCG opens signup.

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Originally Posted by soulreaper

Yes torrent sites can do whatever the hell they want. Professional companies can do whatever they want to their employees by laying down their policies. But that don't make it right!
If everyone would just keep quiet about it and let the atrocities/bullshit continue then it will go on endlessly and there will never be an improvement. Remember that both the admin and the members need to work in tandem for a torrent site or for any organisation to flourish.Sorry I don't quite agree with your "middle-of-the-road" viewpoint.

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You miss the point though. Despite having axx to member PMs, there are staffers (sites) who would never do that. Hence the idea of joining sites that you trust.

New seeding time rules on SCT suck. Why bother buying a seedbox or upload credit to buffer your account when your ratio means shit there anymore.

Why would anyone buy a seedbox to begin with is beyond me. :huh:

My home connection is terrible and a seedbox for just one month easily buffers all my accounts leaving me to download for ages without worrying about ratio. Much cheaper than usenet or any other alternatives.

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Originally Posted by squirr3l

name me one tracker that does that.

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Sure.Bitmetv,All faggotry...ALL the time!

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Originally Posted by squirr3l

like previously said, owners of a tracker literally can do w/e the hell they want. They can make it freeleech, 2x upload, implement SI system or even close open sign up forever. Yes, you can moan and cry about it, but at the end it's their tracker....it's their choice. We (users) are just guest to private communities. And like a good guest, if you do not appreciate how they do it, leave.

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Well I stated my suggestions and I'm sticking to them. You're entitled to yours and If you/they(the admins) dont consider my recommendations I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it.

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Originally Posted by squirr3l

AOM's invite policy is more than fair. They want to build a user base of folks who know stuff. I don't see what is wrong with that. If you are quite addicted to magic, then prove yourself, get involved, and i am sure you will get invited. If not, you prolly don't have to be there...there are alternatives.

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AOM did have open signups when they did start out,they didnt think of getting "expert magicians" back then,did they? They just wanted to get a foothold in the torrenting realm. Now they just want to be elite all of a sudden,coz they feel they have some sort of bullshit reputation to keep up?(WTAW maybe,this is just my theory).
Secondly their invite policy is beyond ridiculous. I've been watching magic since I was a kid. PC Sarkar,Franz Harary,Copperfield to name a few were the ones I loved watching.
Now I don't have a lot of magical stuff to share ,that doesn't mean I don't "deserve" to be a member there. Ironically that's the whole point of torrenting,to get access to material you don't have. This is something that would probably fly past your brain.

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Additionally, open signup IS a disaster, it brings banned users, cheaters, dupe accounts, and hundred other troubles. Just ask stoi how many brazillian cheaters he gets for each time BCG opens signup.

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Geez,what's with your uptightness? People like you take torrenting/internet way to seriously.This is part of the whole open-signup process. Yes it has its associated problems but then it should be done imo to give others a chance to get a slice of the action. Cheers to stoi for being large-hearted,I truly appreciate positive attitude!

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Originally Posted by T-BONE

New seeding time rules on SCT suck. Why bother buying a seedbox or upload credit to buffer your account when your ratio means shit there anymore.

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Says who? :blink:

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Do NOT let your ratio slip below 1.0. All downloads only cost 75% of their actual size, and all packs without a pre-time are free, so there is no excuse to have a ratio below 1.0!

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Ratio is still the most important thing there.
What they did is extremely good and healthy, that new system tends to take care of those users who have not seedboxes or fast speeds, and also makes people with boxes to be a little more responsible and a little bit less selfish. Now if you get access to a seedbox and upload 1 TB in 1 week, doesn´t mean you´ll be allowed to download what you want without sharing, as many users did. Now you have to share.
Very well done by SCT staff.

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Originally Posted by T-BONE

My home connection is terrible and a seedbox for just one month easily buffers all my accounts leaving me to download for ages without worrying about ratio. Much cheaper than usenet or any other alternatives.

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thats one of the reasons we have SP, to stop greedy bastards like you doing that :)

I can appreciate that on BCG, your a specialized content tracker whose torrents wouldn't survive otherwise. SCT is a 0-day pay to leech site which did act more like a service, which is why I treated it as such. Much like TL.

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Originally Posted by soulreaper

Well I stated my suggestions and I'm sticking to them. You're entitled to yours and If you/they(the admins) dont consider my recommendations I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it.

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and what exactly is your recommendations? i must have missed.

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Originally Posted by soulreaper

AOM did have open signups when they did start out,they didnt think of getting "expert magicians" back then,did they? They just wanted to get a foothold in the torrenting realm. Now they just want to be elite all of a sudden,coz they feel they have some sort of bullshit reputation to keep up?(WTAW maybe,this is just my theory).
Secondly their invite policy is beyond ridiculous. I've been watching magic since I was a kid. PC Sarkar,Franz Harary,Copperfield to name a few were the ones I loved watching.
Now I don't have a lot of magical stuff to share ,that doesn't mean I don't "deserve" to be a member there. Ironically that's the whole point of torrenting,to get access to material you don't have. This is something that would probably fly past your brain.

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every tracker needs fresh people to start out with. There are very few trackers that have been closed since the beginning. In other words, most had open signup at the beginning.

As for your WTAW comment, NO respected tracker gives a sh!t about it and knowing one staffer at AOM personally, i know they don't give a shit about it either. As a matter of fact, i doubt they even know about it. One of there admin is a member of FST but barely even active here. They have a little world of their own....leave them alone.

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Originally Posted by soulreaper

Geez,what's with your uptightness? People like you take torrenting/internet way to seriously.

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merely an excuse to deform others ideas...by making comments more personal.

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Originally Posted by soulreaper

This is part of the whole open-signup process. Yes it has its associated problems but then it should be done imo to give others a chance to get a slice of the action. Cheers to stoi for being large-hearted,I truly appreciate positive attitude!

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Quoting Stoi about open signup...

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Originally Posted by stoi

I do not blame trackers one bit for banning entire counties, when we open, 80% of new members are from Brazil, and 99% of those cheat.

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He takes time to clean up the mess. Others don't. They find it easier to close signup and have an invite system instead. Like said previously, if you don't like their policy, find an alternative tracker. You don't have to be everywhere.