Norbits Hackers Threaten to Release User Info

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Norbits Hackers Threaten to Release User Info
Written by Ernesto on September 18, 2008

Norbits, the largest Norwegian BitTorrent tracker is going through some rough times. For several days now, the site has been offline due to a DDoS attack. The site has allegedly been hacked by a group called MORRADi, which is threatening to publish all IPs and more information on the users, unless the tracker is closed.

norbits down hackedDDoS attacks are not an unusual event for many private BitTorrent trackers. Although they are sometimes used as an excuse for server issues, most of the larger trackers have been subject to such attacks at least once.

Norbits is one of these trackers, a medium sized community with over 10,000 members, most of them from Norway. Norbits has suffered downtime because of DDoS attacks before, but this time the threat may be more serious than that.

In an NFO file obtained by by IT-Avisen, a group called MORRADi takes responsibility for the attack on Norbits. “Once again we show our power! Once again we show your foolishness! This is not the first time we have done it, and it won’t be the last,” they write (translated).

“Enough is enough, you are becoming a real nuisance, and you are also a bunch of idiots that try to hide, so it’s high time we punish you! P2P is not something we want, when will you understand that? Do we have to take it as far as publishing your user database online?”

The message seems to suggest that “sceners” are behind the hack and the attacks, since they don’t want their releases shared on BitTorrent trackers. IT-Avisen journalist Trond Bie thinks this is plausible, as he told Dagbladet: “I know that there are people on the FTP scene that don’t like Norbits. It’s not improbable that such a group wanted to attack the servers. It’s happened before.” Whether the group actually has access to all the IPs, usernames and transfer logs of Norbits users remains unclear.

This would not be the first time that a private BitTorrent tracker has been hacked. Earlier this year the IP-addresses of seedboxes and of top-users on some of the larger private trackers leaked to BitTorrent. Nevertheless, this kind of information is useless to anti-piracy organizations, as it is impossible to verify whether it is legit or not.

:source: Source: http://torrentfreak.com/norbits-hack...r-info-080918/

Yes, its true that the site got DDOSed. But, its just BULLSHIT that the hackers will publish the database.

lol i change information daily yo lool like undercover agent lool

Ouch

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Originally Posted by znik

since they don’t want their releases shared on BitTorrent trackers.

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Who's release?

This is what makes me sick. People who lay claim to property that is not theirs to own. The whole point of filesharing is that we do away with ownership, and here we have a bunch of people laying claim to something that they have no right to own.

The Scene should be thankful that the majority of sharers use BT, as this reduces the resources, and risk, that the Scene face. Imagine if OiNK had not existed, but 150,000 extra peeps were Sceners. That would have meant extra heat for the Scene.

I always think of BT as a sort of buffer for the Scene. A sort of insulator. It's a shame that many within the Scene don't seem to think this way too.

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Originally Posted by znik

since they don’t want their releases shared on BitTorrent trackers.

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Who's release?

This is what makes me sick. People who lay claim to property that is not theirs to own. The whole point of filesharing is that we do away with ownership, and here we have a bunch of people laying claim to something that they have no right to own.

The Scene should be thankful that the majority of sharers use BT, as this reduces the resources, and risk, that the Scene face. Imagine if OiNK had not existed, but 150,000 extra peeps were Sceners. That would have meant extra heat for the Scene.

I always think of BT as a sort of buffer for the Scene. A sort of insulator. It's a shame that many within the Scene don't seem to think this way too.

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I respect your thought process and I do understand where you are coming from with this but I am also starting to realize that it may not be entirely accurate. I will have to disagree with you.

It seems to me that bit torrent has brought more attention to the scene than ever before. In the long ago past, FTP sites, newsgroups and a few other venues were the main source for pirated material. I have a feeling that nowhere near as many people were taking part in pirating. The scene was quiet and the sceners did not have the publicity they do today.

Move up to present time and you go on any public or private bit torrent tracker and find some sort of pirated material. To make matters worse for the scene, the releases are tagged with their group name. Their presence has now been made ten, even twentyfold! If I was a group engaged in illegal activity, the last thing I would want is for my name to be plastered all over man’s creation (the internet).

I doubt they are laying claim to owning the product, they are laying to claim to the fact that they released/cracked/got their hands on the product first and now the whole world knows who they are. Not only that, any Tom, Dick or Harry can go and nab a copy of whatever they please with no respect to the scene and I think this also irritates the groups. No one looked this hard at piracy until bit torrent became the majority. Not only are uploaders attacked by anti-piracy groups but the scene groups are at risk too.

Is it true to say that bit torrent is the only reason for all this current anti-piracy movement? Of course not. We all know how greedy big business is and this course of action could have swung into play regardless of bit torrent. You cannot deny the fact, however, that bit torrent is huge and it has made many minds aware of the scene.

It is an argument that could go on and on. I am not debunking your opinion; I used to have the same idea when I first started sharing. In the end though, we are all guilty whether we share a file or download it from a newsgroup. This sort of behavior is more like blood thirsty pirates fighting amongst themselves on a pirate ship. There will always be internal bickering amongst the individuals so we might as well get used to it.

Agree.. Torrents are not needed and draw too much attention.

lot of the leech that scene ftps sell , is purchased by seedboxers who release stuff on the big torrent sites. or most of it is just internal trade. No one in their right mind would just pay for scene axx for personal use.
Torrents and Scene co-exist, and thats the reason why they shouldnt fight. But the smaller sites probably get attacked because they get their stuff from larger sites maybe? Hard to say, nevertheless, the common user/leecher always gets away with his movies lol.

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Originally Posted by kippertoad

lot of the leech that scene ftps sell , is purchased by seedboxers who release stuff on the big torrent sites. or most of it is just internal trade. No one in their right mind would just pay for scene axx for personal use.
Torrents and Scene co-exist, and thats the reason why they shouldnt fight. But the smaller sites probably get attacked because they get their stuff from larger sites maybe? Hard to say, nevertheless, the common user/leecher always gets away with his movies lol.

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Not really true. Big topsites don't sell access, they give it to affils (groups) who provide them with rls and also many topsite admins give access to friends and a few other people. Naturally, curriers or bots will transfer the rls to other topsites so that the rls can spread through the scene. Not all site admins have secure users and some of them transfer the rls to insecure dumps. Here, many uploaders for torrent sites will grab the rls and upload them for p2p. So the scene does it's best to keep out p2p uploaders but there are usually insecure sites inside the scene who's admins will sell axx to p2p uploaders. These sites are usually not affil'd with big groups or anything like that.

Anyways, sucks for Norbits users. IMO, Norbits should go down to protect it's userbase. People will find other sites to get their stuff from.

If it was not a torrent site, i'd report them to the fbi lame 12 year olds...

If it was not a torrent site, i'd report them to the fbi lame 12 year olds...

@ delimare and 222MHz.

Your points are valid, but don't forget that before BitTorrent, there was Kazaa and gnutella networks, along with grokster, napster and others.

Irrespective of the medium, people will find ways to share. If something new comes along to replace BT, then people will migrate to it, as people migrated from Kazaa to BT in the first place.

People know that there are places where you can get the latest film or CD, and they will search out until they find the resources they want. It doesn't matter if they join a Torrent site of discover scene axx. They will find a way.

This is why is is probably better to have several different layers, which helps dilute the heat. I still remember when Bit Torrent was not even considered a target, because the MPAA and RIAA were concentrating on Kazaa (fake files and viruses were their specialities of the day). Of course, with the demise of Kazaa as a reliable mechanism for sharing, the industry has turned to Bit Torrent sites.

Remember that scene axx is a lot harder to set up, and takes more knowledge than the average windows user posesses, which means the majority of file sharers will opt for the easier option of using a BT client and a web interface to share (BT sites). This is what I mean when I say that this offers a layer of protection.

Remember that the industry wants results, and while it would love to strike everyone down, it has limited resources. If it comes between hitting a scene group with several hundred members or a torrent site with several hundred thousand members, then you can guess which one they would target. You also have to remember that it is far easier to capture relevant data about filesharers from BT because everyone in the swarm is connected to everyone else, whereas ftp axx tends to be unidirectional (you only see the server box).

Pound for pound, taking down site like OiNK will pay more dividends (fear wise) than any other method of deterant.

It makes me wonder if the scene groups wish for the good old days, the days even before Napster, Kazaaa, Grokster and the others you mentioned. I wonder if it isn’t fear (fear of getting caught) that drives them to do this but something simpler, a desire for the simpler time when it was just a small group of privileged people who knew what the heck was going on. Imagine the pedestal that must have put them up on….

I know the basics of the scene but I do not know the intricate details, nor do I want to. Perhaps these sceners and release groups just need to accept the fact bit torrent is the majority and will be for years to come. They can hack and take down sites all they want but they achieve nothing. Take down one site and two more pop up. Like the rest of our world, things change and they are changing rapidly.

As the old saying goes, “If you can’t beat em, join em!”

those assholes, I think it's funny that the hackers said "Once again we show our power!", lol. Protecting a site is a lot harder than hacking it, the sysop has to know all the exploits, but a hacker only needs to know one. And these hackers think that by shutting down one torrent site, no others will rise to take NBs place?

the sysop does not need to know all the exploits, he needs to be a programmer with a reasonable amount of knowledge and wisdom to modify and generate a specialised code from a dump code.

Fuck this shit. Really miss this site, definately the best norwegian trackers.

Fuck this shit. Really miss this site, definately the best norwegian tracker.

some observations:

1. these "hacker" geeks need to find girlfriends and get laid...BADLY!!!

2. “Once again we show our power! Once again we show your foolishness! <---gay..lay off the Star Trek geeks

3. these "hackers" are acting like little kids throwing a temper tantrum..sad..someone buy them some Clearasil

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“Enough is enough, you are becoming a real nuisance, and you are also a bunch of idiots that try to hide, so it’s high time we punish you! P2P is not something we want, when will you understand that? Do we have to take it as far as publishing your user database online?”

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I think i understand it now...So what they're saying is: publishing the user database online will stop P2P? :P

Having a scene group mustn't be much fun after all, it would be like walking around with a sign saying "I UPLOAD WAREZ to P2P" :o

This thread is bullshit (not having a go at thread starter). The scene are responsible for releasing their files onto BT. Simple really. I say remove scene tag on NFO that would give them even more to shout about. It is just plain bloody stupid attacking a p2p site. They cannot stop p2p it will go on and on forever.

This thread is bullshit (not having a go at thread starter). The scene are responsible for releasing their files onto BT. Simple really. I say remove scene tag on NFO that would give them even more to shout about. It is just plain bloody stupid attacking a p2p site. They cannot stop p2p it will go on and on forever.

The scene will never be able to take down P2P. If one site goes down another will come up. Its absolutely pointless and its a big waste of time.

!! P2P 4 EVER !!

Ok, i take what i wrote back.So, what's the truth?Were they hacked or DDoSed?

The scene complaining about us taking their material? Isn't that like the pot calling the kettle black?

Irony anyone? :lol:

Regardless of anyone's position, be it scene, p2p, companies, production studios, etc.., there will always be change. If no one can compensate for this inevitable situation, then they will falter. Just as the music industry needs to find a new way, if they want to stay "ahead of the game, so will the scene if they don't want p2p groups "stealing" from them.

Go ninja.