One or the other?

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09-20-2008, 04:43 PM
SenorBubbz

One or the other?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127370

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150314

I can't decide :(

And which one is bigger? I know the 9800GTX+ is 10.5 inches but I don't know about the 4850...

Edit: I have a Dell Dimension 8400 btw.. Don't know all the specs and my motherboard and shit. Will install everest and we'll see...

Computer
Computer Type ACPI Uniprocessor PC
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional
OS Service Pack Service Pack 3
Internet Explorer 7.0.5730.13 (IE 7.0)
DirectX 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)
Computer Name HAL
User Name Admin
Logon Domain HAL
Date / Time 2008-09-20 / 13:04

Motherboard
CPU Type Intel Pentium 4 630, 3000 MHz (15 x 200)
Motherboard Name Dell Dimension 8400
Motherboard Chipset Intel Alderwood i925XE
System Memory 3072 MB (DDR2 SDRAM)
DIMM1: 7D-21KA5K5FPP 1 GB DDR2-400 DDR2 SDRAM (4-3-3-9 @ 200 MHz) (3-3-3-9 @ 200 MHz)
DIMM2: 7D-21KA5K5FPP 1 GB DDR2-400 DDR2 SDRAM (4-3-3-9 @ 200 MHz) (3-3-3-9 @ 200 MHz)
DIMM3: Samsung M3 78T6553BG0-CD5 512 MB DDR2-533 DDR2 SDRAM (5-4-4-11 @ 266 MHz) (4-4-4-11 @ 266 MHz) (3-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz)
DIMM4: Samsung M3 78T6553BG0-CD5 512 MB DDR2-533 DDR2 SDRAM (5-4-4-11 @ 266 MHz) (4-4-4-11 @ 266 MHz) (3-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz)
BIOS Type Phoenix (07/07/06)
Communication Port Communications Port (COM1)
Communication Port ECP Printer Port (LPT1)

Display
Video Adapter ATI Radeon X300/X550/X1050 Series Secondary (128 MB)
Video Adapter ATI Radeon X300/X550/X1050 Series (128 MB)
3D Accelerator ATI Radeon X300/X550/X1050 (RV370)
Monitor Westinghouse LCM-22w3 [22" LCD] (0)

Multimedia
Audio Adapter Analog Devices AD1888/AD1980 @ Intel 82801FB ICH6 - AC'97 Audio Controller [B-1]

Storage
IDE Controller Intel(R) 82801FB/FBM Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 266F
IDE Controller Intel(R) 82801FR SATA AHCI Controller
Disk Drive ST3160023AS (160 GB, 7200 RPM, SATA)
Optical Drive PHILIPS DVD+-RW DVD8631 (DVD+R9:2.4x, DVD+RW:16x/4x, DVD-RW:8x/4x, DVD-ROM:16x, CD:40x/24x/40x DVD+RW/DVD-RW)
SMART Hard Disks Status Unknown

Partitions
C: (NTFS) 149.0 GB (88.5 GB free)
Total Size 149.0 GB (88.5 GB free)

Input
Keyboard PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse HID-compliant Cordless Mouse

Network
Primary IP Address *************
Primary MAC Address ******************
Network Adapter Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit Controller (************)

Peripherals
Printer Brother MFC-3240C USB Printer
Printer Microsoft XPS Document Writer
Printer Send To OneNote 2007
USB1 Controller Intel 82801FB ICH6 - USB Universal Host Controller [B-1]
USB1 Controller Intel 82801FB ICH6 - USB Universal Host Controller [B-1]
USB1 Controller Intel 82801FB ICH6 - USB Universal Host Controller [B-1]
USB1 Controller Intel 82801FB ICH6 - USB Universal Host Controller [B-1]
USB2 Controller Intel 82801FB ICH6 - Enhanced USB2 Controller [B-1]
USB Device Cordless USB Mouse
USB Device Creative WebCam NX Pro #2
USB Device USB Composite Device
USB Device USB Device
USB Device USB Device
USB Device USB Printing Support

DMI
DMI BIOS Vendor Dell Inc.
DMI BIOS Version A09
DMI System Manufacturer Dell Inc.
DMI System Product Dimension 8400
DMI System Version
DMI System Serial Number **********
DMI System UUID ***********************************
DMI Motherboard Manufacturer Dell Inc.
DMI Motherboard Product 0U7077
DMI Motherboard Version
DMI Motherboard Serial Number ..CN4811151302P0.
DMI Chassis Manufacturer Dell Inc.
DMI Chassis Version
DMI Chassis Serial Number *************
DMI Chassis Asset Tag
DMI Chassis Type Mini Tower
09-20-2008, 06:28 PM
Detale

Re: One or the other?

Well what do you mainly do with this computer? Game, watch movies what? Why do you want to upgrade?
09-20-2008, 07:40 PM
SenorBubbz

Re: One or the other?

Well, this is just my main computer. I do everything on it from games to movies to office (word documents, powerpoints, etc.).

I want to upgrade because I'm sick of my current extremely outdated video card.. Plus, I want to play World of Warcraft at something more than 20 FPS....
09-20-2008, 07:43 PM
socalled

Re: One or the other?

NVIDIA has always been my first choice...but what do I know
09-20-2008, 07:55 PM
IdolEyes787

Re: One or the other?

Here's a side by side comparison.

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=566&card2=559

The GeForce is 10.3 x 4.37 x 1.5.
The Radeon is 9.2 x 3.9 x 0.6

I've also read that the Geforce is faster and runs cooler.
09-20-2008, 08:01 PM
Detale

Re: One or the other?

Id say go nvidia as well but Im sure others will argue.

Why not go with EVGA (lifetime guarentee :) )and cheaper

EVGA 512-P3-N975-AR GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
09-20-2008, 09:52 PM
SenorBubbz

Re: One or the other?

So everyone is saying go with Nvidia, which I plan on doing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detale

Id say go nvidia as well but Im sure others will argue.

Why not go with EVGA (lifetime guarentee :) )and cheaper

EVGA 512-P3-N975-AR GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

I thought XFX had a lifetime guarantee? and the XFX is 9800 GTX+
Is there a big difference between GT and GTX+?
09-21-2008, 06:58 AM
Detale

Re: One or the other?

Maybe they do too, I didn't know that

GPU GeForce 9800 GT Core clock 600MHz Stream Processors 112 Memory Clock 1800MHz

GPU GeForce 9800 GTX+ Core clock 738MHz Stream Processors 128 Memory Clock 2200MHz

So yes there is a difference but not a huge one. You could easily OC the GT to the GTX specs but if they have a guarentee also go with the GTX, why not?
09-21-2008, 04:14 PM
SenorBubbz

Re: One or the other?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detale

Maybe they do too, I didn't know that

GPU GeForce 9800 GT Core clock 600MHz Stream Processors 112 Memory Clock 1800MHz

GPU GeForce 9800 GTX+ Core clock 738MHz Stream Processors 128 Memory Clock 2200MHz

So yes there is a difference but not a huge one. You could easily OC the GT to the GTX specs but if they have a guarentee also go with the GTX, why not?

Yea, I went on the XFX website and found out they have a Lifetime Warranty.

Gonna wait till the price on the GTX+ drops a little, too steep for me atm.

Also, how do I OC things? Always wanted to know.... Something in BIOS or an actual program?
09-21-2008, 05:29 PM
Shiranai_Baka

Re: One or the other?

I'm pretty sure your processor will be bottlenecking your video card so you might want to take a look at other cards.
09-21-2008, 06:16 PM
SenorBubbz

Re: One or the other?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiranai_Baka

I'm pretty sure your processor will be bottlenecking your video card so you might want to take a look at other cards.

Bottlenecking?
09-22-2008, 10:31 PM
SenorBubbz

Re: One or the other?

New thing I found out. My PSU might not be able to handle the 9800 GTX+

It's 350W... Do I buy a new one?
09-23-2008, 03:39 AM
Detale

Re: One or the other?

Oh yeah you do. Bottle necking= The older CPU will actually slow down the vid card so you will not have a noticeable difference in performance man.

Save up get a new rig. CPU, Mobo, Vid card and PSU Around $400 reasonably I would think. Maybe less.
09-23-2008, 04:07 AM
clocker

Re: One or the other?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detale

Save up get a new rig. CPU, Mobo, Vid card and PSU Around $400 reasonably I would think. Maybe less.

You forgot RAM.

And $400, really?
Maybe if you're buying off the back of Guido's truck...
09-23-2008, 01:20 PM
Detale

Re: One or the other?

LOL yeah about $400 if the budget is real tight he could get a BB kit from tiger ( I know you dislike them but in a pinch they're cheap. Now these arent really good parts at all but it'll get the job done for now and upgrade as the money becomes available

GeForce XFX MG-63MI-7109 Socket 775 Barebones Kit - Intel Pentium Dual E2200 2.20GHz OEM, OCZ Platinum 2048MB PC6400 DDR2, 160GB HD, XFX GeForce 8600 GT XXX, ATX Mid Tower Case $299.99

Intel DG31PR Socket 775 Barebone Kit - Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.40GHz OEM, 2GB DDR2 PC6400, ATX Mid-Tower Case, 800 Watt Power Supply $399 granted this doesn't have the vid card he wanted so this one is a little more but it's a quad core system.
09-23-2008, 01:30 PM
clocker

Re: One or the other?

Need I comment on the quality of PSUs bundled with cheap cases?

No, I think not.
09-23-2008, 07:41 PM
Detale

Re: One or the other?

LOLOL but still it would get him going until he could upgrade the parts
09-23-2008, 07:51 PM
clocker

Re: One or the other?

False- and potentially lethal- economy.
Besides, he already has a PC and presumably, it's parts work so he can still get his daily LOLcats fix as he saves a few more bucks and buys something worth having.
09-23-2008, 08:26 PM
Detale

Re: One or the other?

OK you got me, good man.
09-24-2008, 02:07 AM
SenorBubbz

Re: One or the other?

Quote:

Originally Posted by clocker

False- and potentially lethal- economy.
Besides, he already has a PC and presumably, it's parts work so he can still get his daily LOLcats fix as he saves a few more bucks and buys something worth having.

Haha, LOLcats... they disgust me =/

So.. I'm gonna get:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150314
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817703016 (Made especially for Dell PC's)

And the vid card has a bundle special that comes with one of 2 motherboards:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813141010
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813141011

I don't want to buy a new system either though. I have enough RAM on this one for pretty much any game.. All I need is a new video card and the necessary upgrades for it to run smoothly...