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It's not that long ago that Marin Luther King spoke of his dream. That was a historic moment. Are we about to see the World taking a step towards the fulfilment of that dream. Where all men and women truly are born equal (I substituted created deliberately).
It is. Chavis has started to refer to morans with 'it' instead of 'she'.
A huge step :yes:
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Originally Posted by Skweeky
Chavis goes from misogyny to anti-anthropomorphism.
That's history, baby.
't Is a sign o' the times.
I did it to appease you cos I like you. I'm not comfortable with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skweeky
Once you go into hospital, I'll lapse back. Guaranteed.
Once you're not with child, you're fair fucking game.
True story.
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You could have let me believe i'd converted you for a little while longer.
Why so late though? Some of us have work tomorrow (today now . . . ), surely it would make more sense to have this all wrapped up by 6pm?
You'd have thunk so, like.
Those crazy foreigners and their silly customs. :rolleyes:
well McCain just gave his defeat speech so I guess this day will be a historic day.
Quite an emotional speech too.Quote:
Originally Posted by DKre8ive1
He was incredibly gracious.
it was ridiculous when the crowd booed.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkizoQuite an emotional speech too.Quote:
Originally Posted by DKre8ive1
He was incredibly gracious.
the mood here, jp, is jubilant. i'm pissed all to hail, and this is the first time, and the only time, that i can ever remember posting here pissed.
we are really excited, and hopeful to see what will become of this.
Indeed we are, JP.Quote:
Originally Posted by JPaul
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/1..._n_141194.html
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Maybe an historical day ... but Obama is faced with a country in ruins.
I'm really curious to see what he is going to change and how and at what cost.
Our country is not in ruins. What the heck are you talking about? :blink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Disme
It always happens. It isn't appropriate, but there are always a few of them. No biggie... just a bit of emotion and frustration.Quote:
Originally Posted by colt45joeit was ridiculous when the crowd booed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skizo
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Originally Posted by SkizoOur country is not in ruins. What the heck are you talking about? :blink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Disme
I guess you have to see it from a distance mate, ie, the other side of the Atlantic. :unsure:
- The U.S. of A. is fighting in two devastating wars (Afghinistan and Iraq);Quote:
Originally Posted by SkizoOur country is not in ruins. What the heck are you talking about? :blink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Disme
- The U.S. of A. has a huge dificit in it's states budget (due to those wars and other economic factors);
- The U.S. of A. is struggling with a huge banking crysis;
- The U.S. of A. is in an economic recession;
- The U.S. of A. has a social system that is failing;
- Consumer confidence is at an all-time low;
- Unemployment is skyhigh;
- 85% of it's inhabitants are under the impression it isn't going good at all with their nation;
- You're international relationships have been seriously deteriorating during the past 8 years.
I am no U.S. of A. hater or so. It's just the view of an objective bystander who observes from a distance (like Skweeky said).
That's why I said obama will have a very hard time to get the U.S. of A. back on track.
I don't think America is any more in ruins than for example the UK, france or germany to be honest :dabs:
That might be the case, but that wasn't what I said ... I didn't say only the U.S.A. is in ruins ... I said Obama will have a hard time getting the U.S. back on it's feet after the last 8 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barbarossa
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Originally Posted by Disme- The U.S. of A. is fighting in two devastating wars (Afghinistan and Iraq);Quote:
Originally Posted by Skizo
War is generally good for the economy. It creates jobs, expansion, etc. It certainly hasn't left us in "ruins". Quite the opposite.
- The U.S. of A. has a huge dificit in it's states budget (due to those wars and other economic factors);
We have been in the hole since the 1940's. Nothing new there.
- The U.S. of A. is struggling with a huge banking crysis;
- The U.S. of A. is in an economic recession;
Largely due to the housing market.
In short, this mess was created by the same groups who've created the recent spike in oil prices over here as well.
Parts of New England and southern California saw explosive growth in real estate, and that bubble eventually popped. The same cast of characters that created the housing mess, Bank of America, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Bear Stearns, etc. are involved in this new oil bubble. When the housing market went south, they scrambled for a way to recover. They did so by investing in oil futures; only this time they are using federal bailout money to inflate the price of oil.
The way traders manipulate prices is surprisingly simple and goes beyond basic supply and demand. Demand isn't just made up of only real consumer demand but also demand created in the futures market. Hundreds of billions of dollars from hedge funds, pension funds, and other investments have been pouring into the futures market and this money has been creating an artificial demand which in turn is driving prices up. More specifically, they buy in European futures markets, which don't have the various limitations that U.S. markets do. That drives up U.S. prices where they may already have positions set by supply and demand. It’s market manipulation, pure and simple.
But remember, it's all linked to the housing market, and that is why banks are going belly up. As you see the housing market again taking a decline, you see oil prices dropping in unison.
When the housing market recovers, so shall the rest of our economy.
- The U.S. of A. has a social system that is failing;
How so? If there is anything that is thriving over here, it is our social systems. :dry:
- Consumer confidence is at an all-time low;
With relation to what? :unsure:
- Unemployment is skyhigh;
Current estimates are at 4.8%. Up, but a long shot from "sky high".
- 85% of it's inhabitants are under the impression it isn't going good at all with their nation;
I agree that our nation isn't where it should be as well. Who isn't? Anyone who is satisfied with the economic market right now is completely uninformed. But on the uphand, it isn't going to be our end-all. It's a recession. This isn't the first and it won't be the last. We'll get through it just like we always do.
- You're international relationships have been seriously deteriorating during the past 8 years.
The only deterioration we may have had in the past eight years is with countries that don't wish to have a working relationship with the US or it's allies in the first place. Many of our staunch allies have been fighting these battles right along side of us. What staunch ally of ours has reversed their stance with the US?
I would say an up close view is the better one.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Skizo
I guess you have to see it from a distance mate, ie, the other side of the Atlantic. :unsure:
I'm just saying that's the way it looks from over here. I'm not saying it's true or not. I don't live there.
I'm happy Obama got elected but he does have quite the mess(es) to clear up thanks to an absolutely shite 8 years from Bush. Good luck to him (Obama not Bush obviously . . .).
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Originally Posted by Disme
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It isn't? what else do you need to see?Quote:
Originally Posted by SkizoOur country is not in ruins. What the heck are you talking about? :blink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Disme
I forgot you are a republican and as mccain said, the american economy is strong, the majority of americans didn't think so lol
It is very strange and sad that only happens in the republican side, just a thoughtQuote:
Originally Posted by SkizoIt always happens. It isn't appropriate, but there are always a few of them. No biggie... just a bit of emotion and frustration.Quote:
Originally Posted by colt45joe
Nope, we don't have to go to the other side to see the great fuck up bush did to this great country, yes it is in ruins, we just need total anarchy for some to see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkweekyQuote:
Originally Posted by Skizo
I guess you have to see it from a distance mate, ie, the other side of the Atlantic. :unsure:
I agree the US is in ruins, but you guys in Europe and the rest of the world have it much worstQuote:
Originally Posted by DismeThat might be the case, but that wasn't what I said ... I didn't say only the U.S.A. is in ruins ... I said Obama will have a hard time getting the U.S. back on it's feet after the last 8 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barbarossa
How do you figure that then? o_O
I'm guessing no reason whatsoever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skweeky
Fair enough.
Historic how?
First black president?
That can only happen once - with apologies to Bill Clinton.
I'd say that fits the bill.
Certain other "historics" will soon occur...I predict. :whistling
Everything that happens is historic. Shirley
Bill was black?? Did he pull a Michael?
Dirtiest post of the day. :OQuote:
Originally Posted by Skweeky
:lol: :earl:
I am reading this from my bed and just had to explain to the husband why I burst out laughing!
Shirley not, and thank God for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by benchez
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