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I know for a fact that even after I delete files from my HD, they are not really gone. They remain deep down on the HD, and can be extracted somehow.
What I wonder is:
Is there a program that can let me see those files, and remove them for good?
will those files be deleted by a format?
There are a few programs out there designed to overwrite, and thus delete, I've even heard of something designed originally by the military to be used int his fashion.
But I haven't felt the need to use something like it myself so I can't give you any examples.
Unless you are very very good at a computer I believe they are very hard (near impossible) to get back after formatting, also try Windows Washer for a clean out.Quote:
Originally posted by true_neo@8 September 2003 - 17:24
will those files be deleted by a format?
To make sure the files will never come back/ be able to be brought back smash up your motherboard.
loz: "smash up your motherboard"?
I'd go for the HD myself if anything was to be smashed, But that's just me. :lol:
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You could use something like Norton's 'wipeinfo' before deleting the file, there are various settings from simply writing '00' (or any other selected character) to every byte of the file to 'Government Wipe - DoD 5220.22-M' which is a three pass process. And you can have it repeat the process multiple times if you wish.
But don't forget that when you perform this operation it is only on the latest version of the file, any previous versions which have been replaced may still be intact. The only way to be sure of wiping previously deleted files is to create a new file to occupy the free space on the disk, then run the wipeinfo operation on that file too.
Someone would have to pretty determined to find something after a format, and it would be damned near impossible after the simplest of Norton's 'wipeinfo' operations, I would predict that it would be totally impossible to extract any meaningful information after the 'Government Wipe'.
Edit: or if you are going to erase the whole disk you could indeed use killdisk
Although i can't think of a program that will permently erase a program you uninstall using it's uninstall program there are may that you can use to permently destroy documents by overwriting them numerious times making them unretrivable by even them best programs out there. An example is a program called Window Washer which has an option
<called bleaching"sanitizing a file on a Non-Removable Rigid Disk or a Removable Rigid Disk and overwriting a file 7 times respects the NSA approved seven-pass file erasure method. You can set the number of times to overwrite a file by clicking on the Info button next to the Add Bleach to Wash checkbox."
This can be applied to all items in the recycle bin. :)
This killdisk, is this like a more extended format, or can I use that to just delete one file if I want it truly gone?
I think so.Quote:
This killdisk, is this like a more extended format
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A:\killdisk.exe –eraseallhdds -erasemethod=2 -noconfirmation
If you've placed this line to the "autoexec.bat" and placed the disk into the floppy drive, all you have to do to erase everything on the machine is Turn On the computer
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Killdisk wipes the entire drive, not just the master file table. All boot sectors and formatting will be gone. Fdisk and format to restore to like new.
fdisk and format to restore to new.
me dun understand that. If I use killdisk, will my machine try to tell me that I no longer have a HD?
It'll tell ya to do what your supposed to do with a new hard drive. Put in a windows 98 startup disk which you can get from bootdisk.com if you don't already have one and boot. When it gets to the a: prompt, type fdisk and enter. select yes to everything and when it's done reboot. Now you either format for win9x with the startup disk, or you boot from CD with a bootable XP CD and format to NTFS. When it's done, install your OS clean and new. Just like a pro.
This sounds like a lotta work and a big risk to take since I still consider myself as a comp nOOb.
But me will bookie this, and read and try once I get DVD burner to save my current files to a DVD.
Thank you all for your help. Really appreciated. :D
EnCase is a very powerful program for thisQuote:
Originally posted by true_neo@8 September 2003 - 17:24
Is there a program that can let me see those files
take a look on emule for it, there are lots of different versions...
u can also use evidence eliminator. just rite click the file and select safe recyle