What is your views on trading (accounts and invites)
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What is your views on trading (accounts and invites)
invites should always be free , even if you have the '1337357' tracker ever you should just be more picky as to who gets it
Keep trading at a minimal or just refrain from it. Some people go crazy when it comes to trading in these forums.
Just my 2 cents.
Don't do it all all ;)
I totally disagree!
Yes, don't break tracker rules and send/recieve invites through forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by respawn40
To bad NOBODY follows this rule (including you).
amen :happy:Quote:
Originally Posted by respawn40
I think the general mentality is people want to be where they are not. Secret societies have fascinated us humans for years, so have secret clubs, which in essence, what these are. So people will go to any lengths to get in, including trading.
It's their choice, I guess.
Too bad I've NEVER traded invites or gave away/requested invites through forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by phosphors
OK, I lied... A few months ago (I think it was a few months), I requested an invite for MySpleen here at FST. And I was recruited into another tracker via a "mystery giveaway" here at FST a few months back. But other than that, nada. Any other tracker that I am on is because people have invited me to be so.
:bag:
every tracker schould have invite to only have good members
it doesn't bother me if people do it. it's their choice. there are risks of course.
to me, it's still on the same level as doing giveaways to strangers.
All morals apart, trading is exactly as bad as public giveaways.
this is my truth, tell me yours.
You have to abide by the rules of the tracker. A lot of GOOD community based trackers actively seek out people who are breaking the rules and ban them.
Other trackers have no rules on trading.
That being said, I wouldn't want my own invite tree, account or tracker to become compromised because the wrong person was invited or gained access to an account.
Invites should be free, sometimes a little work is required to get an invite but well worth it to certain trackers.
Accounts should never be traded.
Trading isnt bad. A good trader gains access to top sites within weeks, or months, but a good anti-trader get only some low level trackers (well, there are exceptions...). So building reputation and turning into a community fanatic takes a lot more time, which isnt good if you only need warez, but if you are alone and online 24/7 and have no life.
If you get banned because of a trader, you can always get back.
Nice logic like.
Makes me want to go out and kill people and take their money so I won't have to waste the time working for it or something.:dabs:
I don't like traders ! That's all i have to say :lol:
Thanks. My logic isnt so bad, just rational (as far as i think). Kill ppl if you want, but be careful, there are a lot of cops out there who want to stop you :ermm:Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
What if I said that a nice, quality non-trader could get into 'top sites" in a few months, as well? :bag: Because if I did ever say that, then that wouldn't be a lie.Quote:
Originally Posted by nthpeter
There really IS little reason to trade your way into sites.
But killing people to take money from them is wrong, so you shouldn't be doing it anyway :bag:Quote:
Originally Posted by nthpeter
But killing people to take money from them is wrong, so you shouldn't be doing it anyway :bag:[/quote]Quote:
Originally Posted by respawn40
I said there are exceptions. And i said that if someone want only warez, then trading is the best way, it wouldnt be a lie at least. There are a lot of anti-traders who want hq sites, but they spend too much time selling themself as anti-traders. (btw, there are no good or bad things, its determination ;))
well, at this particular forum, making such a statement means you probably won't get much of your requests fulfilled.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wladdy
i will keep this on my notes, so that when i see you asking for an invite that some trader is offering, paste it there.
yes, because i consider all these anti-traders etc as hypocrites.
i hold no grudge against them at all (though i see a lot of disgusting things happening), it's all part of the game. and you should respect all other members as they probably don't frown the fact that you are a giveaway'er (just made this word out :happy: )
some people are just retarded. i was invited to fsc and revolt by admins after being active here only a month or 2. so i got into the trackers i wanted just by being friendly and i got to use my own name and be invited by admins so my invite tree will never be a problem unless im the one who causes it. also i didnt have to break any tracker rules and the chance of being scammed was 0%. saying "Trading isnt bad" just shows how little you really know about private torrent sites though so i wouldn't expect the sentences that come after it to make any sense or be correct. i must have no life though, since making a couple posts a day on a few sites definitely takes up 24 hours. douche.Quote:
Originally Posted by nthpeter
There are also certain trackers that look back into your history no matter how remote so the collector traders who have to have every site are always dangling on the edge of a sword, if they are found the a/c is banned and quite often this can have a ripple effect since believe it or not staff actually talk to each other and so there is always the infamous global ban. Now I personally have seen the banhammer in action a few times and it is quite impressive, so for those of you who think that there are no risks to trading don't be so sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by aysomcsome people are just retarded. i was invited to fsc and revolt by admins after being active here only a month or 2. so i got into the trackers i wanted just by being friendly and i got to use my own name and be invited by admins so my invite tree will never be a problem unless im the one who causes it. also i didnt have to break any tracker rules and the chance of being scammed was 0%. saying "Trading isnt bad" just shows how little you really know about private torrent sites though so i wouldn't expect the sentences that come after it to make any sense or be correct. i must have no life though, since making a couple posts a day on a few sites definitely takes up 24 hours. douche.Quote:
Originally Posted by nthpeter
Another thing, I am a member of the trackers I belong to because other people wanted me to be a member of those trackers and forums, I can and do post any where I like, can talk to staff chat in irc as well as download the files that I want. I do not need to lurk , my tracker names are the same and everyone who I want to know who I am does. This was all done in far less time than many of the hardcore traders who suddenly hit that magical glass ceiling, where the tracker staff have to approve your membership and actually look into your history.
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Originally Posted by aysomcsome people are just retarded. i was invited to fsc and revolt by admins after being active here only a month or 2. so i got into the trackers i wanted just by being friendly and i got to use my own name and be invited by admins so my invite tree will never be a problem unless im the one who causes it. also i didnt have to break any tracker rules and the chance of being scammed was 0%. saying "Trading isnt bad" just shows how little you really know about private torrent sites though so i wouldn't expect the sentences that come after it to make any sense or be correct. i must have no life though, since making a couple posts a day on a few sites definitely takes up 24 hours. douche.Quote:
Originally Posted by nthpeter
I do know private torrent sites, i know more than some traders, but i also can imagine other ppl thoughts. Not everyone is like you.
I think it was way back when it was a lit bit easier to get in or maybe you were lucky. now, you have to be very active and good. and 2 months arent enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by aysomc
I maybe wrong tho'.:unsure:
You do get in trackers without trading ... but it ain't gonna be easy, not in the short term.
It is perfectly possible to get into (almost) every tracker around by not trading, but offcourse being a contributing member here and at other places takes time and effort. Being active and writing posts that consist of more than 'Good luck', 'Thank you', etc... requires some intellectual capacities and some basic knowledge of the English language and off course some sociological, interpersonal skills are never wasted.
Some people don't have time for that, they want it all and they want it now, preferably without any hassle or any effort, regardless of security, tracker rules etc ...
I agree with that, Disme
actually i'm not newbie in torrent world, i think trading is not good and very dangerous with your current account
Trade is wrong way to get what you need
As tracker rules said
Don`t trade your account or invites
it`s really bad way
Contributing to be a part of a community is a great thing. Contributing to be able to access warez is a lie. Trading to be able to access warez is a good thing. These 3 things are not the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Disme
("some basic knowledge of the English language", thanks, i know my english is very bad)
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Originally Posted by nthpeter
My point,which I thought was fairly obvious,was that you seem to value expediency over morality .Quote:
Originally Posted by nthpeterThanks. My logic isnt so bad, just rational (as far as i think). Kill ppl if you want, but be careful, there are a lot of cops out there who want to stop you :ermm:Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
i totally agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Disme
i never traded, but i'm on almost every "high level" (duh) trackers. it's not that hard to join them if you want to participate in their community. ofcourse if you don't enjoy chatting on irc, using the forums, 'they' will never get to know you. but that's good, because private trackers wants active ppl, not the collector guy who login to the site once in a week just for keeping his acc alive.
I don't care as long as the trader is not in my invite-tree and as long as he won't come here moaning and making excuses a la my brother used my account, after losing his account.
Tracker rules also say don't give your invites to people you don't know. Does that mean people who give invites away here in the giveaway/request section are bad too?Quote:
Originally Posted by helpme
Nope, it's not. Staff on lots of trackers do giveaways here from time to time, but I have yet to see staff from a tracker trade for an invite ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabalo
I remember when I first started out I traded a little bit but someone showed me that it's not the correct way to do things and shortly, veeery shortly after that I had almost all trackers I wanted and even some I didn't I'd say maybe 3 months after that I was flush. I think it is mostly who you know and don't be a prick :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Disme
Detale i agree with you 100% and its to bad other members do not see it this way!Quote:
Originally Posted by DetaleNope, it's not. Staff on lots of trackers do giveaways here from time to time, but I have yet to see staff from a tracker trade for an invite ;)
I remember when I first started out I traded a little bit but someone showed me that it's not the correct way to do things and shortly, veeery shortly after that I had almost all trackers I wanted and even some I didn't I'd say maybe 3 months after that I was flush. I think it is mostly who you know and don't be a prick :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Disme
So you're basically saying I have no chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Detale
Thanks a lot Gandhi.:angry:
You have chance in both ways. Its up to you what you want more: torrent lover ommunity or just high speed download from a big archive.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787So you're basically saying I have no chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Detale
Thanks a lot Gandhi.:angry:
Are we talking anal here?Quote:
Originally Posted by nthpeterYou have chance in both ways..Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
(I can't wait to see what google translate makes of that sentence)
:D:whistlingQuote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787Are we talking anal here?Quote:
Originally Posted by nthpeter
(I can't wait to see what google translate makes of that sentence)
Couldn't care less personally. So what if people trade, its their decision to be shunned. I don't trade myself, but I don't see a problem with it. All these "moral issues" with trading is just plain bulls*** in my mind