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The attitude around here needs to change
The attitude around here needs to change as the tittle says. As of late all I see is whenever someone posts there are 15 people cutting him up for some absurd reason. Lots of people speak of community around here when it comes to trackers but what about our FST community? Enough with all the arguments and bullshit high school fights. FST used to be a place where people could help one and other. Good people came here and helped each other out when they needed it. Now it seems every thread is someone fighting someone over bullshit reasons. This is going to stop now. Usually I let go the little tiffs and the spam so that the section can have a community feel to it but I think I'm going to be a bit tougher on the infractions for a while to clean this section up. Maybe it's me but I don't think so. Consider this a warning especially the first few will be made examples of so don't be all shocked when it comes. Thanks
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This has been along time coming, and I completely agree.
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bet this will turn into a fight feast by next page or something :lol:
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No fights just more infractions ;)
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it's just the way fst is, you won't change anything man... keep in mind that community is also about making fun and bashing people.
and let me tell you that if so many members visit fst everyday, it's mostly for "bullshit high school fights"..
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i think you could handle your own in a fight anyway detale, seeing as your from Brooklyn.
I have some close friends from there and let me tell you they can throw it down pretty good.
I applaud your efforts to do this detale, i only wish that i could help you out in the process because
i am ready to go to war!:tank:
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^^ I agree. NYC boroughs have a rep for that. just don't get caught here after dark lol
And as far as this thread goes i kind of agree but a forum is a forum. You will always come to a non agreement with someone. You can't expect anyone to have the same opinion as someone else. These things are part of a forum.
Also there's many other things here that should be taken a look at. I say lets take it one step at a time.
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Good luck with this Detale :)
I know in my personal experience, one of the main reasons I don't bother much with threads here is invariably, it'll end up with some sort of flaming. Whether deserved or not.
It's a bit disheartening to try to help someone with a problem only to have 10 people come into those threads and start throwing spammy flame crap around as if it's okay. Which to this point, it mostly has been. It'll be nice to see a shift towards actual interactions rather than just a place "for the lolz" as I see so often in peoples reasons for coming to this forum.
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Detale
No fights just more infractions ;)
Time for my pink handbag analogy once again ? :naughty:
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Originally Posted by
cinephilia
it's just the way fst is, you won't change anything man... keep in mind that community is also about making fun and bashing people.
and let me tell you that if so many members visit fst everyday, it's mostly for "bullshit high school fights"..
meh a community in which members bash users isn't really a community. I would refer to FST as a gathering of people, it is no in way shape or form, a community. For that statement to be true, fst would need to be smaller and not be divided between traders and anti-traders.(meaning fst would be anti-trader or pro, not both as it is now,preferably anti btw)
oh let's not forget that it would need to get rid of a healthy chunk of it's users (50+) most of them are scum. Then maybe I could *possibly* refer to FST as a community.
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Not trying to start an argument, but I think that's where a lot of these things start... labeling people as traders or anti-traders, or for that matter, people with good or bad grammar. Why does that need to be done at all? Cant everyone just be a user?
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okie dokie. i'll start with the help, the term is "one another", not "one and other". edit that shit son.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/one+another
helping is fun! :)
back on topic, does that mean if someone doesnt agree with something that has been said they shouldnt voice their opinion on the matter? there is a very fine line between good moderating and censorship. please remember that. also we need to remember that people who dont trade/sell invites are forced to share a general bittorrent forum with those who do, and there will always be some tension there between at least a few of them.
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puckface
Not trying to start an argument, but I think that's where a lot of these things start... labeling people as traders or anti-traders, or for that matter, people with good or bad grammar. Why does that need to be done at all? Cant everyone just be a user?
no, and its obvious it cant be that way, which is why they separated the giveaways/requests with the trades in the first place. those 2 groups of people don't generally get along and it's a mindset thing, the opinions of someone who trades and someone who doesnt will generally be polar opposites.
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puckface
Not trying to start an argument, but I think that's where a lot of these things start... labeling people as traders or anti-traders, or for that matter, people with good or bad grammar. Why does that need to be done at all? Cant everyone just be a user?
I totally agree with you. All of a sudden, users are broken down into traders/non-traders, by country, by religion...this has got to stop. We all all here for the same basic reason - or did we all forget?
Nemrac
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nemrac
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puckface
Not trying to start an argument, but I think that's where a lot of these things start... labeling people as traders or anti-traders, or for that matter, people with good or bad grammar. Why does that need to be done at all? Cant everyone just be a user?
I totally agree with you. All of a sudden, users are broken down into traders/non-traders, by country, by religion...this has got to stop. We all all here for the same basic reason - or did we all forget?
Nemrac
hmm, surprising that two users who traded in the past would come to this conclusion...
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ben99
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nemrac
I totally agree with you. All of a sudden, users are broken down into traders/non-traders, by country, by religion...this has got to stop. We all all here for the same basic reason - or did we all forget?
Nemrac
hmm, surprising that two users who traded in the past would come to this conclusion...
see, you prove my point exactly. so what if I have traded? Is it like I have leprocy? Or is it like being a Republican? Or maybe I have the bird flu or the SARS?
This is what is bringing everyone down. Also, both of use werent only talking about trading if you would care to read our individual posts.
But, you can think however you want I guess. Good day sir.
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I am a new member but I see what you mean. Some people seem to post so that others dont get the invite...
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sheriff 01
i think you could handle your own in a fight anyway detale, seeing as your from Brooklyn.
I have some close friends from there and let me tell you they can throw it down pretty good.
I applaud your efforts to do this detale, i only wish that i could help you out in the process because
i am ready to go to war!:tank:
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Albo Da Kid
^^ I agree. NYC boroughs have a rep for that. just don't get caught here after dark lol
Wow, Congratz Detale. You actually managed to find someone, who believes you can beat them up.
They clearly do not have viking blood running through their veins.
We eat Brooklyn brawlers for breakfast ;)
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I hope this works and hopefully some of the bad eggs can be made an example of. There is no need for bashing and especially no need for it in public. If you wanna handle something do it in private.
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detale, the reasons you state for the change are the very same that keep making me come back here in a daily basis. Maybe in the last couple of days it got to a "higher-level".
what you will try to enforce (enforce is the correct word imo) is a status quo where everyone will be afraid to point the finger at those considered not-so-good-for-the-community members, expecting retaliations from the moderation team.
It is what it happens here most of the times, and in my opinion it has been a self-purge from the members here, as some of them, quite often, keep pointing the finger at those bad weeds.
I am pretty much against this witch hunt for traders that few members do here, except a few nasty ones that i can't hide how much i dislike them, but i also dislike some giveaway'ers, so i really don't separate them in the good, the bad and the ugly.
enforcing this, will in my opinion give a sense of protection to those bad weeds that we more often than so, meet here. And it will be a regress from the path that this forum was taking, towards self discipline by its community (yes, this is a community, not all communities are peaceful, but yet they are a community).
well, i'll continue the way i have been here, as i see nothing wrong in my attitude. If i will have to be one of the "victims/examples", because i don't fit on the attitude u praise for this forum, so be it. :idunno: There's no point for me pretending to be someone different in a forum, than what i really am.
This forum/community is not for the faint hearted. If some guys haven't the balls to "survive" here, well... tough luck.
(and i do consider it pretty friendly indeed).
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squirr3l
bet this will turn into a fight feast by next page or something :lol:
lol
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extreme29
I am a new member but I see what you mean. Some people seem to post so that others dont get the invite...
and that is TOTALLY correct, if you are a non deserving member. what is the problem?
many users only come here to get invites, so what is the problem of pointing them the finger?
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extreme29
I am a new member but I see what you mean. Some people seem to post so that others dont get the invite...
No some people just post so that an invite doesn't go where it shouldn't.
Sometimes directly by exposing certain histories sometimes by more indirect means.
Anybody that talked to me privately knows I hate the real malicious stuff as much as anyone but take away the humour and the conflict from this place and it's certainly a whole lot less appealing.
Make it like another forum that I'm on where I have to apologize for being right about something and I will seriously consider not posting here anymore.
Personally as bad as it gets at times I don't think anyone who truly deserved an invite has ever failed to get one if they stuck to it.
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ben99
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nemrac
I totally agree with you. All of a sudden, users are broken down into traders/non-traders, by country, by religion...this has got to stop. We all all here for the same basic reason - or did we all forget?
Nemrac
hmm, surprising that two users who traded in the past would come to this conclusion...
Well, eventhough they both have traded in the past I don't consider them active traders at all since their last trades were pretty long ago. And I wouldn't feel uncomfortable at all to bring either one of them into my invite tree because of this.
Perhaps they both came to this conclusion because people still bring up things that they did a while ago, and haven't done since? I think we all need to start leaving this whole trading thing alone for long time members that traded long ago.
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Seems that my point is being missed. I am not talking about arguments in general I mean when an argument starts in one thread and is carried on into 7 threads after that. The forum has taken an ugly turn lately. The regular BT bullshit is fine, hell most of the time I'm right in there too. For example people posting hate threads and when members Troll others because they come from a different country or what not. Anti traders trolling traders. Things like this.
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Originally Posted by
cinephilia
it's just the way fst is, you won't change anything man... keep in mind that community is also about making fun and bashing people.
and let me tell you that if so many members visit fst everyday, it's mostly for "bullshit high school fights"..
Yes I know this is how FST is...NOW, it wasn't always like this. I don't want to change it I want it back. Making fun is fine, it's when making fun turns to spam/flame threads with no point other that to fight, as of late it has gotten out of control in some of these threads.
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Artemis
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Detale
No fights just more infractions ;)
Time for my pink handbag analogy once again ? :naughty:
If you wouldn't mind that would be great.
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interwebz
okie dokie. i'll start with the help, the term is "one another", not "one and other". edit that shit son.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/one+another
helping is fun! :)
back on topic, does that mean if someone doesnt agree with something that has been said they shouldnt voice their opinion on the matter? there is a very fine line between good moderating and censorship. please remember that. also we need to remember that people who dont trade/sell invites are forced to share a general bittorrent forum with those who do, and there will always be some tension there between at least a few of them.
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Originally Posted by
puckface
Not trying to start an argument, but I think that's where a lot of these things start... labeling people as traders or anti-traders, or for that matter, people with good or bad grammar. Why does that need to be done at all? Cant everyone just be a user?
no, and its obvious it cant be that way, which is why they separated the giveaways/requests with the trades in the first place. those 2 groups of people don't generally get along and it's a mindset thing, the opinions of someone who trades and someone who doesnt will generally be polar opposites.
Thanks for the grammar lesson, you're an asset to FST :dabs:
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extreme29
I am a new member but I see what you mean. Some people seem to post so that others dont get the invite...
This too will be addressed in the near future but not right now.
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Blue_Skies
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Albo Da Kid
^^ I agree. NYC boroughs have a rep for that. just don't get caught here after dark lol
Wow, Congratz Detale. You actually managed to find someone, who believes you can beat them up.
They clearly do not have viking blood running through their veins.
We eat Brooklyn brawlers for breakfast ;)
I'll pull your beard and give you a slap back to Valhalla bitch. Besides I can't find it in myself to be afraid of the pic from your facebook page
Also I think Albo is from NY :idunno:
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ben99
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nemrac
I totally agree with you. All of a sudden, users are broken down into traders/non-traders, by country, by religion...this has got to stop. We all all here for the same basic reason - or did we all forget?
Nemrac
hmm, surprising that two users who traded in the past would come to this conclusion...
Really whocares if people have traded or not, i swear people make it out like they are rapists or something. In the end if they trade there way onto a tracker and contribute to it, it will be a benefit to that tracker and if they are bad on these trackers im sure they will get found out in the end and get banned. Personally i think GA invites is just as bad as trading invites, and i wonder how many of u can honestly say u have known ur invitor personally on every tracker u r on.
Also if people are willing to trade openly let them run the risk of getting their accounts disabled.
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Originally Posted by Detale
I'll pull your beard and give you a slap back to Valhalla bitch. Besides I can't find it in myself to be afraid of the pic from your facebook page
Also I think Albo is from NY :idunno:
Lol that's just some drunk from Brooklyn, who noticed being a Brooklyn brawler didn't get him far. He's trying to pretend to be a viking now... and failing miserably.
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Blue_Skies
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Originally Posted by Detale
I'll pull your beard and give you a slap back to Valhalla bitch. Besides I can't find it in myself to be afraid of the pic from your facebook page
Also I think Albo is from NY :idunno:
Lol that's just some drunk from Brooklyn, who noticed being a Brooklyn brawler didn't get him far. He's trying to pretend to be a viking now... and failing miserably.
What's so bad about being drunk in Brooklyn? :cry:
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I will be drunk in Manhattan tomorrow night, most likely. :P
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Detale
I'll be in Pennsylvania
Off to see all your Amish relatives ? :naughty:
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you can't change peoples attitudes with a simple post ...
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Well I'm going to try. What do you suggest then?
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Holy crap thank you for posting this. I posted something like this only a week or 2 ago and got "cut up" and called a faggot, etc. for even suggesting the idea. Thank God a mod posts about it and is flame-proof. The pure reason of torrenting in the first place is "sharing", and typically sharing implies generosity and cooperation.
It gets pretty primal in here. 2 people want the same thing and are willing to step on each other's heads to get to the top.
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You should have reported it Nug. Send me a link to the thread in a PM.
Guys we the staff are here to help you if something happens report it in the report section that's what its there for. Unfortunately we do miss some threads so if you see something say something (NYC transit authority)
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off topic.... Brooklyn motherfuckers. Im OG Bronx, who wants to go?
ha
cheers
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The problem is that many fanatic people here have become a part of self-employed bittorrent police. Everyone is fighting over who deserves an invite or who does not. People cracking up the history of requesters (or shall I say beggars), flaming each other, trying to build a reputation. The problem is that people take this BT way too seriously. The bottom line is bittorrent (trackers) is just a filesharing method which is used to supplement our life in a way. Find someone in real life to bash up. Leave the poor FST folks. It is a completely different thing if you are the one planning to invite someone and find that the person doesn't deserve an invite, but that is not the case here.
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puckface
off topic.... Brooklyn motherfuckers. Im OG Bronx, who wants to go?
ha
cheers
brret brret bronx stand the frrrak up
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Detale
Well I'm going to try. What do you suggest then?
take some actions against users who don't obey the rules the ones like me ...
also ban them not only warn users who break serious rules ban ip maybe
