an open appeal to the sct forum mods

sct is a great tracker. it has the best speeds, long retention, excellent packs and a huge variety of scene content.

their forum on the other hand is the worst i know. since they introduced stricter forum rules absolutely nothing has changed. the racism, sexism, nazism and flaming has reached an insufferable level.

i could post extracts here that you simply would not believe. the level of tolerance of the people responsible for moderation is completely unacceptable.

here's my appeal to the forum mods. i'm going to put this in direct and drastic words:

DO something about it. your forum is a shame for every bittorrent user with a minimum of intelligence and education. it's a shame for the bittorrent scene as a whole.
it's not enough to put some rules on a website. please enforce them! if you tolerate unbearable posts, the trash will reflect on you and on the whole tracker.

as long as this miserable condition isn't changed, i can only recommend to every sct user to stay away from the forum as far as you can. it's a garbage dump!

p.s. yes, this post was written in anger.

and your posting here about it why!!...??? O.o

DUDE, all your doing is leaving the door WIDE OPEN for spam and flaming ... you must love abuse, cause it's coming!!...

agree with op. datz why i dont post at their or similar forums. dislike smth? just leave it

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Originally Posted by jasperr

and your posting here about it why!!...??? O.o

DUDE, all your doing is leaving the door WIDE OPEN for spam and flaming ... you must love abuse, cause it's coming!!...

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+1 now we will see everything here the op gets to see at sct forums

Pls someone close this stupid thread

If u are interesed in improving the tracker got to irc and talk to mods:frusty:

I don't think he has done anything wrong by posting this here. At least some of the admins come here and look at topics related to sct. They might look at this also. He cannot go talk to the staff directly because who knows what those *** might do with his account, maybe even ban him. And all the spammers/flamers must know that Detale is in very hot mood nowadays. :P

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SCT is for leeching and seeding, not forum posting. There's a jailbait thread if you didn't notice. I thought that was obvious to everyone.......

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Originally Posted by jasperr

and your posting here about it why!!...??? O.o

DUDE, all your doing is leaving the door WIDE OPEN for spam and flaming ... you must love abuse, cause it's coming!!...

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You are right, the problem is that on sct's forums a thread like this will get deleted and if he pm that to the mods\admins they will not do nothing about it.

they need to see that a lot of people feel like this, on the other hand a lot of people will abuse this thread.

I agree with Polarbear, same with FTN's IRC channel.

Did you post about this on their forums?

Well, I disagree a bit with you. Except for the odd "Fucking A" once in a while the forums seem pretty much ok.

I lol'd tbh, Polarbear. You always cry on FST in just about every ScT related thread there is, yet I've never seen you post and complaint on our forums. Don't just assume we delete or trash a thread simply because someone criticised us ;) Makes me wonder sometimes why you even bother using ScT if all you can do is whine left and right.

I completely agree with Polarbear, sct forum is a shame and it definitely encourage members in their retardation and childish mentality. Actually, It's one of the reason why i rarely use trackers forums.

all i'm reading is really a bunch of cry baby posts, its a tracker... with forums to cure the boredom ... if you take offense to whats being posted there, then perhaps you have no business in the forums(forums aren't for everyone)... just use the tracker portion and be happy with it... other wise, you need to toughen up and throw some punches, instead of taking them.. GEESH.....!

I just post in the Networking-Bittorret section and so far there isnt a single thread like that posted there .. To each its own

An appeal to ScT forum mods at FST? I know FST needs activity but at least create threads that actually make sense.

I agree.
ScT should hold themselves to higher standards.

I got this PM on sct earlier today which kinda goes against what you said polarbear.

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"You probably don't know me, but I just want to mention something real quick if that's ok.

I just got a one week warning from DeevZ for calling someone in the forums a "fag". I mean, seriously? Is this what the forums have become? I always saw the ScT forums as a pretty free place compared to for example the old fascist forums at TorrentBytes where you'd get a 1 month warning for using incorrect punctuation.

I mean, is this guy a new mod or something? It seems to me like he's just enjoying handing out warnings. I'm only wondering, and some kind of answer would be greatly appreciated.

Appreciate all the work you guys are putting in, just wanted to mention that as well."

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Originally Posted by FACE_TO_FACE

who cares??

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According to Polarbear... not us thats for sure! :D

Why not post this in the sct forums and not here?

on a slightly related note, some people are a shame to the human race, but you dont see me bitching about it here do you?

If you can't have uncensored freedom of speech on the interweb where can you have it ?, if a forum doesn't appeal to you then just move along to another one that does.

I understand your point though about rules that are not enforced for boards, either enforce the rules or get rid of them, simple as.

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Originally Posted by Polarbear

their forum on the other hand is the worst i know. since they introduced stricter forum rules absolutely nothing has changed. the racism, sexism, nazism and flaming has reached an insufferable level.



p.s. yes, this post was written in anger.

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Originally Posted by Feeling

I got this PM on sct earlier today which kinda goes against what you said polarbear.

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"You probably don't know me, but I just want to mention something real quick if that's ok.

I just got a one week warning from DeevZ for calling someone in the forums a "fag". I mean, seriously? Is this what the forums have become? I always saw the ScT forums as a pretty free place compared to for example the old fascist forums at TorrentBytes where you'd get a 1 month warning for using incorrect punctuation.

I mean, is this guy a new mod or something? It seems to me like he's just enjoying handing out warnings. I'm only wondering, and some kind of answer would be greatly appreciated.

Appreciate all the work you guys are putting in, just wanted to mention that as well."

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Childish at times certainly(although the same thing could be said about an uberl33t place I know of)sexist definitely but I fail to see the racism.
I admit I don't visit the forums very often but I do believe Feeling in that they don't tolerate it.
About the rest .Every tracker has a certain tone to it.If that is what ScT really wants and you don't like content aside maybe it just isn't the place for you(speaking generally here not to you specifically PB)

It's really no one's right to decide what is good for anyone else.

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Originally Posted by puckface

Why not post this in the sct forums and not here?

on a slightly related note, some people are a shame to the human race, but you dont see me bitching about it here do you?

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if this was posted in the sct forum it would get more bashed than here :)

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Originally Posted by jasperr

people like you seem to forget one simple thing.... you guys do not own the trackers and trackers staff don't owe you anything.. you don't like it leave.. thats all there is to it.. no one holds a gun to your heads and force you to be a member of their site... so, stop acting like babies and grow the fuck up!!! :frusty::frusty::frusty:

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So what you are trying to say is, "if you can't do nothing about it as an individual then why complain???" Technically that's a cowards motto. Even back in history, if the people didn't complain, then nothing would get changed. Why do you think the OP brought this subject up, just so he can strike a conversation ???
Not everyone uses a tracker just for quick snatches like you. Some like to hang out in the forums and irc, and that's what this topic is pointing out.
Sct is one of my favorite trackers, but it's a sad thing that it's flooded by idiots and degenerates whom clog up the irc channel and forums. I hope the staff sets up some rules and stick by them.
I'm not even stressing it though. There's private forums for hanging out purposes, but it would be cool to see sct better itself.

PS. Hey I was looking at your sig earlier, and it seems that you're into some type of an Anti-Trading community. Is there any chance I could join??? I would be delighted. yeyyyyy:D

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Originally Posted by Polarbear

sct is a great tracker. it has the best speeds, long retention, excellent packs and a huge variety of scene content.

their forum on the other hand is the worst i know. since they introduced stricter forum rules absolutely nothing has changed. the racism, sexism, nazism and flaming has reached an insufferable level.

i could post extracts here that you simply would not believe. the level of tolerance of the people responsible for moderation is completely unacceptable.

here's my appeal to the forum mods. i'm going to put this in direct and drastic words:

DO something about it. your forum is a shame for every bittorrent user with a minimum of intelligence and education. it's a shame for the bittorrent scene as a whole.
it's not enough to put some rules on a website. please enforce them! if you tolerate unbearable posts, the trash will reflect on you and on the whole tracker.

as long as this miserable condition isn't changed, i can only recommend to every sct user to stay away from the forum as far as you can. it's a garbage dump!

p.s. yes, this post was written in anger.

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show yourself like a real man and post it there. otherwise, anyone can call you a coward, or hiding behind a nick, as many of us older members point the finger at noobs.
ScT forums have their own way, just like FST or CFS, for example. You just have to understand that. There would be no fun if all forums were the same.
I don't participate there much, but i admit they are a fun read. And makes me think when i say people want some trackers "because of their community", are people who just enjoy forums where people kiss each other asses.

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Originally Posted by jasperr

people like you seem to forget one simple thing.... you guys do not own the trackers and trackers staff don't owe you anything.. you don't like it leave.. thats all there is to it.. no one holds a gun to your heads and force you to be a member of their site... so, stop acting like babies and grow the fuck up!!! :frusty::frusty::frusty:

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what's your point ? so because i don't own the tracker, i do not have the right to express my opinion ?
everybody know that it's their tracker, that it's not a democracy and so on, but please tell me why it should stop somebody from criticizing them ?
you really think that being member of a tracker imply that you must stfu about everything ?
keep in mind that trackers also need criticisms to progress, and not only ass kissings.

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help him to feel better

ok.. obviously i need to break this down to you since you can't seem to remember what you said..... ready..??

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Originally Posted by [URL="http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../../members/cinephilia-197775"

cinephilia[/URL]]what's wrong with you jasperr ? why the hell couldn't we say what we don't like in the tracker ? Do you love ScT to the point of not telling what you think ?

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This is a good valid point.. but, you should've stoped at that...

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Originally Posted by [URL="http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../../members/cinephilia-197775"

cinephilia[/URL]]i'm really tired of all those retards always saying "it's their tracker, their rules blablabla"... stop being a dick sucker and try to think by yourself instead of blissfully admiring sct.

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my comment was is direct response to this.... and it holds true.. you don't like GTFO!!! ...... my 9 year old would understand that..

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Originally Posted by [URL="http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../../members/cinephilia-197775"

cinephilia[/URL]]what's your point ? so because i don't own the tracker, i do not have the right to express my opinion ?
everybody know that it's their tracker, that it's not a democracy and so on, but please tell me why it should stop somebody from criticizing them ?
you really think that being member of a tracker imply that you must stfu about everything ?
keep in mind that trackers also need criticisms to progress, and not only ass kissings.

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you can express anything you want .... really no one really gives a shit... just people get tired of babies coming back to sites like this claiming they have been wronged and crying about it..... its very saddening... it is... grow up and get yourself a pair already will you!.

come on, don't make a fuss, no one is crying...

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Originally Posted by jasperr

you can express anything you want .... really no one really gives a shit... just people get tired of babies coming back to sites like this claiming they have been wronged and crying about it..... its very saddening... it is... grow up and get yourself a pair already will you!.

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^Who is this guy ffs:frusty:.

You have made three posts you made sense in none of them. In the last post you said the same thing about 3 times along with the corny "yo mama jokes". Stop hijacking the thread ffs.

I dont know why u post here this
U can talk with sct admin and mod if u want
if u dont want just dont use their forum

guys, why such negative attitude? someone must bring the flaws of something to the public's view so that there is change. Although I agree that polarbear's post is a bit biased.

Imo OP should post this in sct forum! its cowardly to post this issue in pub like fst.
And to the rest of you whiners...GTFL(get the fucking life)

well i must say i completely agree, sct forums are filled with childish bullshit.

to those who are so against this post, why dont you read all the posts on the front page and tell me that 90% arent a waste also, i can reply "who gives a shit" as well to most of the topics but honestly who gives a shit that you guys don't give a shit? you
don't like what the thread is about? don't reply, cut the crap already would you please?

no matter what the mods will say, whether they admit it or not the majority of them know that FST is a well respected forum and they do care what the people say.

Think i'm wrong? then take a look at the community rep thread, why would so many of them bother? there are plenty other forums out there but i dont see them filling those up?

Basically they do care, and most other threads that you posters wrote arent more justified then this one, which is very legit.
While in this case it might not help since it is SCT we are talking about, then again if one of there sain mods ready it it might smack him in the fact that there is some truth in these words, and from a tracker that seems to be very desparate for donations i believe they have no interest of having this bad name that there forum spreads.

Like the op said, its one of the greatest trackers with one of the worst forums which is very unfortunate, you can agree or disagree but if you have nothing relavent to add please shut the **** up.

at least some tutorials in sct forums are very useful like the one about irc auto-downloader...

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Originally Posted by johhn

at least some tutorials in sct forums are very useful like the one about irc auto-downloader...

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which is taken from another site.

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Originally Posted by Albo Da Kid

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Originally Posted by jasperr

you can express anything you want .... really no one really gives a shit... just people get tired of babies coming back to sites like this claiming they have been wronged and crying about it..... its very saddening... it is... grow up and get yourself a pair already will you!.

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^Who is this guy ffs:frusty:.

You have made three posts you made sense in none of them. In the last post you said the same thing about 3 times along with the corny "yo mama jokes". Stop hijacking the thread ffs.

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i guess you don't know how to read the whole thread... because, if you did it would make sense to you.. try to keep up ok? :whistling

OH, and btw... i'm in my own anti group.. and i'm not accepting any new members.. sorry :mellow:

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well i must say i completely agree, sct forums are filled with childish bullshit.

to those who are so against this post, why dont you read all the posts on the front page and tell me that 90% arent a waste also, i can reply "who gives a shit" as well to most of the topics but honestly who gives a shit that you guys don't give a shit? you
don't like what the thread is about? don't reply, cut the crap already would you please?

no matter what the mods will say, whether they admit it or not the majority of them know that FST is a well respected forum and they do care what the people say.

Think i'm wrong? then take a look at the community rep thread, why would so many of them bother? there are plenty other forums out there but i dont see them filling those up?

Basically they do care, and most other threads that you posters wrote arent more justified then this one, which is very legit.
While in this case it might not help since it is SCT we are talking about, then again if one of there sain mods ready it it might smack him in the fact that there is some truth in these words, and from a tracker that seems to be very desparate for donations i believe they have no interest of having this bad name that there forum spreads.

Like the op said, its one of the greatest trackers with one of the worst forums which is very unfortunate, you can agree or disagree but if you have nothing relavent to add please shut the **** up.

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well, if thats your opinion... so be it... my whole point was, that coming here (to cry...oops, i meant) to muster the troops in a pointless attempt to change the world is noble indeed... anyways, i'm done with this thread as i'd only be repeating myself anyhow....

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Originally Posted by Polarbear

sct is a great tracker. it has the best speeds, long retention, excellent packs and a huge variety of scene content.

their forum on the other hand is the worst i know. since they introduced stricter forum rules absolutely nothing has changed. the racism, sexism, nazism and flaming has reached an insufferable level.

i could post extracts here that you simply would not believe. the level of tolerance of the people responsible for moderation is completely unacceptable.

here's my appeal to the forum mods. i'm going to put this in direct and drastic words:

DO something about it. your forum is a shame for every bittorrent user with a minimum of intelligence and education. it's a shame for the bittorrent scene as a whole.
it's not enough to put some rules on a website. please enforce them! if you tolerate unbearable posts, the trash will reflect on you and on the whole tracker.

as long as this miserable condition isn't changed, i can only recommend to every sct user to stay away from the forum as far as you can. it's a garbage dump!

p.s. yes, this post was written in anger.

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Your entire post sounded alright till I stumbled on your "P.S". So do you really stand by your words or is your P.S an indirect way of saying "sorry for talking bad about SCT,Plz dont ban me" ??

Let's break this complex situation down into a simpler one. There's two(maybe more) ways of looking at this :-

A) It's a privilege for us members to be on torrent sites and the site owners can do whatever they please,even if it's unpleasant and disrespectful. In that case,members of the site can keep an acceptable ratio and be apathetic and walk away.

B) You're a member of a torrent site who actually cares and you show your support by donating to the site(excluding upload purchase) or by constructively criticising it to see it become better which is what Polarbear probably tried to do with this thread.

So what is the right approach for a user and what do site admins prefer?

I also think that certain torrent sites(bitmetv is a fine example) attain a degree of excellence( amazing speeds,great content etc etc) and forget about being respectful to their users,the same users who got them to the top . In short they stop caring cause their site's flourishing.

Personally I'd like to live in a world where there's a touch of compassion and some degree of transparency.I don't see why this isn't possible in the torrenting realm.

. ScT is one of the best trackers in the p2p world. Period.

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join a "community-based" tracker if forums are so important to you.

I'm not a member there and can't tell you my own expierence.
I think most people are there because Bittorrent and not because their Forum or Community. You shoulden't take it to serious, it's only internet.