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okay, i've just checked my hotmail account and i have a returned message...."System Administrator....Undeliverable...."
it's some kind of spam get rich quick thing that has been sent back to me, although i obviously didnt send it in the first place.
i've checked the senders address and it's identical to mine's so i'm thinking is it just a balls up could someone else be using my details/account ??
any help with this much appreciated
pol :D
i think somebody hacked your account, not sure thoQuote:
Originally posted by pol@12 September 2003 - 11:30
okay, i've just checked my hotmail account and i have a returned message...."System Administrator....Undeliverable...."
it's some kind of spam get rich quick thing that has been sent back to me, although i obviously didnt send it in the first place.
i've checked the senders address and it's identical to mine's so i'm thinking is it just a balls up could someone else be using my details/account ??
any help with this much appreciated
pol :D
Someone may have used an anonymous mail sender and used your e-mail as the sender <_<
IMHO Hotmail is utter undiluted cack. You should go with a POP3 account or something more secure. I can't suggest anything though because I use POP3.
i hope you didnt open it, this is probably the latest virii spread initiative...quite smart actually
thanks guys,
i wasnt sure anything like this was poss, but i just googled it and there's over 50,000 hits. :(
i'll look into someting else for an email account. if any of you have any ideas for easy free email let me know please.
thanks again
pol :)
:blink: oooops, looks like i'll be about 2 hours with norton thenQuote:
i hope you didnt open it, this is probably the latest virii spread initiative...quite smart actually
I 'have' to use hotmail, my isp doesnt give me any pop3, i like the feature within messenger, in that a little pop up appears when you get a message, thats my main reason for using it, just set up your spam filters and overlook whats obviously dribble
I have Webmail with Earthlink, but that's sacred. I don't give that to ANYONE. People will just sign me up for those damed e-cards or daily jokes. That's where spam comes from. Hotmail is good enough for everyday use. The spam filter is good, but not great. You can't complain for something that's free. It's either that or yahoo. :lol: :lol: :lol: I think we all know what's their situation with spam. :lol: :lol: :lol:
i get alot of those to............. "dont wry"............. its "just" spam <_<Quote:
Originally posted by pol@12 September 2003 - 16:30
okay, i've just checked my hotmail account and i have a returned message...."System Administrator....Undeliverable...."
it's some kind of spam get rich quick thing that has been sent back to me, although i obviously didnt send it in the first place.
i've checked the senders address and it's identical to mine's so i'm thinking is it just a balls up could someone else be using my details/account ??
any help with this much appreciated
pol :D
this sounds like a spammer is sending a message to a fake adress with your name as the sender.
the message bounces and is sent back to your account.
this is a common trick used by spammers to get passed the new breed of filters.
Mailandnews.com or shanjemail is very good. Either web based or through outlook or express.
http://mailandnews.com/
HehehQuote:
Originally posted by Bodasher@12 September 2003 - 15:43
IMHO Hotmail is utter undiluted cack. You should go with a POP3 account or something more secure. I can't suggest anything though because I use POP3.
POP3 sends passwords out on the network in plaintext, anyone on your network, or an a machine along the way can see it just by sniffing a few packets. Its among the least secure methods of recieving email. Even hotmail is more secure that than, since (at your option) it uses 128-bit SSL encryption. Most people don't bother to use the secure option.
Monica
cheers everyone, i have a few things to try out
@ balamm, Mailandnews.com is "upgrading its reg. process", so i'll try again in a day or 2
thanks again peeps :)
pol
Hotpop, anyone?Quote:
Heheh
POP3 sends passwords out on the network in plaintext, anyone on your network, or an a machine along the way can see it just by sniffing a few packets. Its among the least secure methods of recieving email. Even hotmail is more secure that than, since (at your option) it uses 128-bit SSL encryption. Most people don't bother to use the secure option.
Monica
True, but I'm sure you know that, in the past, there have been much easier ways of hijacking a Hotmail account than it would be to sniff and sort through thousands of packets, just for a stupid password.Quote:
Originally posted by monica_green_22@13 September 2003 - 01:15
POP3 sends passwords out on the network in plaintext, anyone on your network, or an a machine along the way can see it just by sniffing a few packets. Its among the least secure methods of recieving email. Even hotmail is more secure that than, since (at your option) it uses 128-bit SSL encryption. Most people don't bother to use the secure option.
Monica
Password-wise, sure... Hotmail is probably more secure (except when you let IE remember it ;)), but getting someone's password isn't the only of getting into someone's account.
just for the record, i was just namedropping hotpop i wasn't saying anything against monica i think shes coolQuote:
Heheh
POP3 sends passwords out on the network in plaintext, anyone on your network, or an a machine along the way can see it just by sniffing a few packets. Its among the least secure methods of recieving email. Even hotmail is more secure that than, since (at your option) it uses 128-bit SSL encryption. Most people don't bother to use the secure option.
Monica
btw:so if when i log in it prompts me for a password that means its not remembering the password(it does remember the login) right?My settings are fairly secure so I hope that's what's happening.
Yeah, it's not a virus. Those other people are right. It's just spammers using your address as the sender to get past
filters. All you can really do about it is let it run it's course.
True, but I'm sure you know that, in the past, there have been much easier ways of hijacking a Hotmail account than it would be to sniff and sort through thousands of packets, just for a stupid password.Quote:
Originally posted by Cl1mh4224rd+13 September 2003 - 06:59--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cl1mh4224rd @ 13 September 2003 - 06:59)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-monica_green_22@13 September 2003 - 01:15
POP3 sends passwords out on the network in plaintext, anyone on your network, or an a machine along the way can see it just by sniffing a few packets. Its among the least secure methods of recieving email. Even hotmail is more secure that than, since (at your option) it uses 128-bit SSL encryption. Most people don't bother to use the secure option.
Monica
Password-wise, sure... Hotmail is probably more secure (except when you let IE remember it ;)), but getting someone's password isn't the only of getting into someone's account. [/b][/quote]
Wow, hotmail sucks more than I originally thought.
Just for fun, I signed up for another hotmail account (disposable), and tried to break into it. It took me less than 25 minutes!
I last tried just after they introduced the whole MS passport thing, and there were no obvious vulnerabilities. But since then, they have introduced at least 3 vulnerabilities (that I know of) which I was able to exploit and use to break into the account. All I needed to know was the passport email address and the first 8 digits of the check id (which any computer can solve using brute force in a few nanoseconds, only 256 possibilities).
This is harder during peak time since there are more check-ids and the servers are slower, but its still possible.
I will not post the details here of how I did it (to prevent mass account hijacking), but if you want to know, just pm/email me.
I strongly urge anyone using hotmail for anything sensitive/personal or other confidential data to consider other services, such as fastmail.fm or even yahoo mail.
Monica