TorrentLeech is SELLING OUT

In the last few days, we've seen:

1. Massive Travian promotions, first in the form of official announcements, then in the form of recurring IRC invite giveaways. This means that forget dedication, forget people who know what BitTorrent is, forget upholding the community, just register on Travian so that TL get their money from affiliation, and presto! you're in.

2. Secretive forum posts from w00t saying that 'if you have a credit card with $10 on it, PM me and you'll get a year's VIP membership'... no more details.

3. And now a poker tournament where the fee for joining is $11... according to mansionpoker.com, affiliates get 20% of net revenue.

I'm disappointed. TL is moving from a tracker where dedication and community actually means something, to a tracker where only money matters. This is so contrary to the ethos that they were once spearheading. Will they go the same way as MovieX?

Discuss. Am I alone in thinking this?

Well, you have to remember that people tend to get greedy when they smell money.
150 000+ members means big bucks as long as some of them actually pay.

I couldn't care any less about what the owners of TL do. As long the releases keep coming for me to illegally download for free, then they can do whatever they want.

yeah, it's a bit ridiculous, but i can ignore it

I think you are too late in realizing this. One of TL's main agenda has always been to gain money and I think a site so big as TL always need money. But I agree, they have gone overboard in their ways to collect donations.

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Originally Posted by The_Martinator

Well, you have to remember that people tend to get greedy when they smell money.
150 000+ members means big bucks as long as some of them actually pay.

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more like 300,000 members and thats before they enabled the invite system again lol

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Originally Posted by DryingFizzle

I'm disappointed. TL is moving from a tracker where dedication and community actually means something, to a tracker where only money matters.

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:lol::lol::lol::lol: it was there since long ago man. Where you not paying attention ? Community ? Dedication ? At TL ? Are you drinking something over there ?

lol ... TL a community =))) maybe of seeders and leechers but nothing else

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Originally Posted by dragos

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Originally Posted by DryingFizzle

I'm disappointed. TL is moving from a tracker where dedication and community actually means something, to a tracker where only money matters.

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:lol::lol::lol::lol: it was there since long ago man. Where you not paying attention ? Community ? Dedication ? At TL ? Are you drinking something over there ?

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Well sorry but I have to agree with dragos, there is no sense of community, however I am not sure what he means by dedication. Its an excellent tracker though, covering almost all scene releases.

TL is an awesome site, but the forums are near dead. IRC isn't bad but meh. However tracker side they are doing awesome, great speeds, lots of leechers, personal compilations/cracks.

They're doing just fine if you ask me ;)

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Get it? They want money, not community or sharing spirit.

Dude..what world are you living in do these terms make any sense to you global economic crisis,recession,tough economic times people are broke.i think they are smart in getting into such agreements with these corporates.who knows what will happen this year maybe they are anticipating whats ahead i mean with the credit crunch so apparent guys who usually diligently donate are going to hold onto their wallets these are the people who keep the site running what do you think will happen next?so if there are corporates who want to work with pirates then no problem let them as long as they fork for our server costs then its all cool,looking at it from another angle am just guessing here you guys know how it is with newbies these guys get so excited when they get into these elite sites and in that excitement especially with the invite having just been given away just like that they are more likely to easily give donations to the good site(especially with TLs donate and become VIP announcement literally following you everywhere)so who knows maybe in the past week or two they witnessed a significant amount of donations from new members and they just decided to take advantage of a trend or better yet bring them in let them leech till they are two weeks to a ban coz of ratio then constantly remind them all could be avoided if they just donated,now what newbie who can spare some cash wouldn't fall for that?besides so long as rules are rules i dont see any problem with more members let them increase the user base a base that will more likely donate unlike those invited by members who may tend to hesitate.we cant anticipate the future here can we?..,and by the way if you are tired of seeing the Ads that help pay for the servers just donate and they will all disappear just like magic..yes?so go _w00t_ dish them all out all of them..and if you can find more corporates the better,its these corporates who made the owner of the pirate bay get listed among the top 20 internet millionaires,now that aint bad right?and he doesnt wait on donations to cover server costs does he?am seeing this as a trend,just wait and see soon many of these elite sites will go this road so its upto you donate or see more giveaways in the name of pirate-corporate cooperation..

TL has always been about money lol - but who cares, it's still a great site and they haven't had a penny out of me.

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Originally Posted by Juscallmesez

Dude..what world are you living in do these terms make any sense to you global economic crisis,recession,tough economic times people are broke.i think they are smart in getting into such agreements with these corporates.who knows what will happen this year maybe they are anticipating whats ahead i mean with the credit crunch so apparent guys who usually diligently donate are going to hold onto their wallets these are the people who keep the site running what do you think will happen next?so if there are corporates who want to work with pirates then no problem let them as long as they fork for our server costs then its all cool,looking at it from another angle am just guessing here you guys know how it is with newbies these guys get so excited when they get into these elite sites and in that excitement especially with the invite having just been given away just like that they are more likely to easily give donations to the good site(especially with TLs donate and become VIP announcement literally following you everywhere)so who knows maybe in the past week or two they witnessed a significant amount of donations from new members and they just decided to take advantage of a trend or better yet bring them in let them leech till they are two weeks to a ban coz of ratio then constantly remind them all could be avoided if they just donated,now what newbie who can spare some cash wouldn't fall for that?besides so long as rules are rules i dont see any problem with more members let them increase the user base a base that will more likely donate unlike those invited by members who may tend to hesitate.we cant anticipate the future here can we?..,and by the way if you are tired of seeing the Ads that help pay for the servers just donate and they will all disappear just like magic..yes?so go _w00t_ dish them all out all of them..and if you can find more corporates the better,its these corporates who made the owner of the pirate bay get listed among the top 20 internet millionaires,now that aint bad right?and he doesnt wait on donations to cover server costs does he?am seeing this as a trend,just wait and see soon many of these elite sites will go this road so its upto you donate or see more giveaways in the name of pirate-corporate cooperation..

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Dude, have you ever heard of paragraphs? :P

Still a great tracker. Many trackers don't live up to their reputation, but not TL.

At least They dont Sell 1 invite for 20 € ;) Get it ? Like SCT ....

Well it isnt any problem for me if they want money
All i can say is that they are a great tracker with many torrent, seeder and leecher

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Originally Posted by crimsonhaze

Still a great tracker. Many trackers don't live up to their reputation, but not TL.

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;)

ppl tend to forget, that, this is not new, has been done before, is being done, and will continue.

ps: As long, as they keep bringing, my shows, and movies, im ok.

id prefer if they werent plastering the site with ads and all that stuff but noone obligates you to buy anything so i dont see the problem.

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Originally Posted by yevgeny

id prefer if they werent plastering the site with ads and all that stuff but noone obligates you to buy anything so i dont see the problem.

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Adblock + custom filter add = pwn.

;)

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Originally Posted by Lovestoned

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TorrentLeech

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Get it? They want money, not community or sharing spirit.

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The 1st site in your sig (whore class) sells each invite for 20 bucks, do you think they are out for your sharing spirit?

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Originally Posted by Funkin'

I couldn't care any less about what the owners of TL do. As long the releases keep coming for me to illegally download for free, then they can do whatever they want.

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Agree!!

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Originally Posted by sert

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Originally Posted by Lovestoned

Get it? They want money, not community or sharing spirit.

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The 1st site in your sig (whore class) sells each invite for 20 bucks, do you think they are out for your sharing spirit?

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Not exactly, they will need it to motivate people to donate so they can continue having 1gbit boxes for the first seed.

Besides, invites are a privilege and it doesn't really matters if you don't have them.

I still enjoy the site very much.

Rofl tl for community and sharing? ;D
And they have gbit? OK
look at all the ads on site and they vip system.

TL is on the right way of getting busted.

well i dont think tl is going to anywhere :P
With the money they make per month they could hire tons of lawyers

i dont mind those as long as TL is alive. Easy to seed, i can snatch a torrent from a week ago and still seed to 1:1,
you can find some torrents that you cant find any other places.

Really some people just need to get over it, who cares if TL want to put lods of donation stuff over there site, from what i hear they are not forcing you to donate, and if its these links and donations that keeps this site alive so be it. Maybe if they ever do go down u will appreciate what they actually gave you.

People bang on a about community really who gives a f**k, what are all u lot dissappointed that the forums arent busy rating the avatar above them :noes:. Im sure u guys have other trackers that do this anyway.

its their decision...

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Originally Posted by kevinsert

At least They dont Sell 1 invite for 20 € ;) Get it ? Like SCT ....

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Have you ever heard that phrase "The first one that acts, is always the smart one". lol while the other trackers focus on building up a Trader/sellers free base, Sct is making money.
I don't blame them, I would find a way to make money out of this "bittorrent" thing as well. There are so many ignorant people here who don't know shit about how things work, which get obsessed with something, and they'll do anything to get what they want. Meaning they'll even pay money money to get an invite, Give it away so they could build up REP points or trade it for another account.
Sct sees this, and they say to themselves "Keep mentoring those Retards FST. Your WTAW thread is the best. We owe you one".
I really think most trackers owe FSt a "Thank You" for making them one of the most wanted trackers. FTN, Detale is still waiting for that check, what happened to it, are you going to send it or what? Or are you going to keep making excuses "We are short of donations etc..."

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Originally Posted by vic

TL is on the right way of getting busted.

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finally someone else has seen the writing on the wall too

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Originally Posted by NippleCake

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Originally Posted by vic

TL is on the right way of getting busted.

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finally someone else has seen the writing on the wall too

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This is why I never signed up there. They are clearly the biggest target...

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Originally Posted by basilhaydens

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Originally Posted by NippleCake

finally someone else has seen the writing on the wall too

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This is why I never signed up there. They are clearly the biggest target...

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I don't think that will happen though.

But OiNK was a disaster.

Well, everyone have to eat. What if w**t wants to get money from his tracker? its his decision.. if you dont like , leave the tracker or just dont donate.

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Originally Posted by Lovestoned

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Originally Posted by basilhaydens

This is why I never signed up there. They are clearly the biggest target...

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I don't think that will happen though.

But OiNK was a disaster.

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Now that oink matter is almost wrapped up, expect more strikes on torrent sites, imho.

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Originally Posted by basilhaydens

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Originally Posted by NippleCake

finally someone else has seen the writing on the wall too

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This is why I never signed up there. They are clearly the biggest target...

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a site will most probably get targeted when they do something out of the ordinary for e.g leaking an album before its release . To say that members more in a torrent site = more chances of site getting busted is absolutely ludicrous . they catch sceners regularly and monitor the scene/p2p more than we can imagine . be a place of 500000 or 5 , if they do something out of the ordinary they will be targeted sooner or later with sufficient proof , be a normal site or a "uber-rar3z0r-c0mmuniti" torrent site .

It's not ludicrous whatsoever. You reason through it and figure out why the biggest sites are the ones to be threatened and forced to move, server raids, etc.

I think you overlook the fact that most scene pres are before the release, so it isn't out of the ordinary.

what is exactly your definition of "Biggest sites" ? Oink was in no way a HUGE site like a Mininova , Demonoid yet it got busted becos some of the uploaders were pre-releasing albums in their tracker apart from its decent collection which led to their doom . and What do you mean by "fact that most scene pres are before the release" ??

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Originally Posted by SaviouR

what is exactly your definition of "Biggest sites" ? Oink was in no way a HUGE site like a Mininova , Demonoid yet it got busted becos some of the uploaders were pre-releasing albums in their tracker apart from its decent collection which led to their doom . and What do you mean by "fact that most scene pres are before the release" ??

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uhm, or maybe because OiNK was easier to bust since he ran his servers from home? (or so i've heard).. while demonoid and most others are running it from hired servers, which means that they focus on putting pressure on the host to shut it down.. this is something we have seen many many times.. but the tracker owner moves before that happens, or has backups to start it up again from somewhere else. and false names on the subscriptions aren't that uncommon either.

thepiratebay was also busted, they ran the servers from their own ISP company. the day after it was running again thanks to backups.

SCC was forced to leave leaseweb after some organisation had put enough pressure on them. but they moved the site to a new host in time.

and so on...

what all the sites that have been busted/forced to move/shut down but started up again have in common is that they are rather large (accessed by a lot of members), and are probably making money. (ok, SCC isn't that large in comparison but still, and they are easy to gain access to)

now if anyone can contradict my theory that size and making money really matters, give some examples :)

Oink was hosted in Holland on leaseweb and he gave his real name and address on the servers, hence why he got busted, aradi tracker was the same, leaseweb, brein asked for the details of the owners of the servers, and leaseweb give in.

Was pretty much that simple really.

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Originally Posted by stoi

Oink was hosted in Holland on leaseweb and he gave his real name and address on the servers, hence why he got busted, aradi tracker was the same, leaseweb, brein asked for the details of the owners of the servers, and leaseweb give in.

Was pretty much that simple really.

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hm ok.. that's not what i thought i remember from the news when they arrested him and walked out with bags of server hdd's from his house. but even if you're right, i still claim that my theory holds.. OiNK was large and was making money, so is the pirate bay.. i don't know anything about that aradi tracker though.. but i don't know of any smaller site that's going low on donations that has been busted, even though they have alot of pre-release movies, games etc on their site.