PreVail Cammer Arrested

PreVail Cammer Arrested
February 17, 2009

It's no secret that watermark technology has become part of the theatrical film experience. Although largely invisible to most individuals, those with an eye for the technology will spot the watermarks, which typically appear as a set of arranged dots. These dots, when arranged in a specific manner, indicate the film's exact theatrical location.

Watermark technology gives investigators a powerful tool. When a movie shows up online, investigators will know where the film was recorded. This is known as camming, which refers to the art of sitting in a theater with a video/audio capturing device, and from there distributing it in the physical or digital market. Online release groups such as PreVail depend on cammers in order to keep their supply of movie releases flowing.

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Unfortunately for one alleged cammer, who provided his work to PreVail, the watermark technology finally caught up to him. An Australian man was arrested on February 13 and his residence was raided by New South Whales Police. According to the MPA's press release, police seized:

"…sophisticated video camcording equipment, and computer equipment. The video camcording equipment is alleged to have been used for making illegal video recordings of a number of latest release titles including “He’s Just Not That Into You”, “Marley and Me”, “Yes Man”, “Bedtime Stories”, and “Beverley Hills Chihuahua”."

PreVail is a well know release group, and the loss of one cammer won't pose a significant threat to their ability to provide releases. It's a surprising arrest in any event - typically release groups and cammers go out of their way to eliminate any watermarking evidence. But this one slipped through the cracks. The alleged cammer in this circumstance has posted bail, and is awaiting arraignment.

:source: Source: http://www.slyck.com/story1833_PreVail_Cammer_Arrested

Too bad for him, but CAM's still sucks, i always wait untill a decent DVDSCR or DVDRip...
Cops better get real bad guys out there as rapists, murderers, etc...
Not some random guy who just film a with a camera in a cinema... pfff

Shouldn't the guys just delete the frames with the watermarked dots? A few frames missing shouldn't be noticeable, right?

That sucks. Poor guy. Going to jail for spreading cam quality films has got to suck.

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Originally Posted by Brenya

Shouldn't the guys just delete the frames with the watermarked dots? A few frames missing shouldn't be noticeable, right?

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Yes, it says in the article:

It's a surprising arrest in any event - typically release groups and cammers go out of their way to eliminate any watermarking evidence. But this one slipped through the cracks.

So, in other words, it was one of these 3: forgot/lazy/mistake.

It's a shame really, although I don't watch a lot of CAMs PreVail is a solid release group and a top Cam group for sure. Hopefully this doesn't hurt their rls

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Originally Posted by Brenya

Shouldn't the guys just delete the frames with the watermarked dots? A few frames missing shouldn't be noticeable, right?

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Yes, it says in the article:

It's a surprising arrest in any event - typically release groups and cammers go out of their way to eliminate any watermarking evidence. But this one slipped through the cracks.

So, in other words, it was one of these 3: forgot/lazy/mistake.

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Cheers to that :D

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Originally Posted by SonsOfLiberty

So, in other words, it was one of these 3: forgot/lazy/mistake.

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Noob? :lol:. Well this is very sad news, the MPAA goes through all these resources and money on encrypting DVD's, searching for release group leaders etc and complain that developers/artist/directors etc dont make profit?

Greedy? :dry:

Just leave us alone and rely on people who wish to pay for overpriced products or wait an extra 6 months for a tv show to be aired or movie to be screened.

Shame on them

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this rush to release files sometimes mistakes happen... normally they are well "protected" but... if he knows something else I hope he dosent cut a deal trading info that can bring others down! :noes:

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So, in other words, it was one of these 3: forgot/lazy/mistake.

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Noob? :lol:. Well this is very sad news, the MPAA goes through all these resources and money on encrypting DVD's, searching for release group leaders etc and complain that developers/artist/directors etc dont make profit?

Greedy? :dry:

Just leave us alone and rely on people who wish to pay for overpriced products or wait an extra 6 months for a tv show to be aired or movie to be screened.

Shame on them

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Noob? Who, the "cammer" :lol:

That sucks. Poor guy.

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Originally Posted by SonsOfLiberty

Noob? Who, the "cammer" :lol:

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Yes, Not only for not 'filtering' the 'watermark' but for not waiting for at least the DVD release :p.

I was quiet pleased with PreVail's CAM's hopefully they all didnt rely on this one Aussie.

They did it now to.

http://torrentfreak.com/fbi-tracks-d...oaders-090221/

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they did it now to.

http://torrentfreak.com/fbi-tracks-d...oaders-090221/

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so this is where my tax dollars are being wasted? =/

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:p

Damn, too bad. PreVail does a good job anyhow.

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Originally Posted by SonsOfLiberty

So, in other words, it was one of these 3: forgot/lazy/mistake.

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Noob? :lol:. Well this is very sad news, the MPAA goes through all these resources and money on encrypting DVD's, searching for release group leaders etc and complain that developers/artist/directors etc dont make profit?

Greedy? :dry:

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It looks like they'll need to spend even more money. The majority doesn't get caught. I don't think any amount of money will prevent the releases from getting out.

Nope, outside of a police state, they are pretty much doomed. :(

very bad for him.

I can't laugh about this event, this is very sad for the filesharing world :(

n00b?i'd say poor guy,dont blame the supplier,blame the RG..

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Originally Posted by Brenya

Shouldn't the guys just delete the frames with the watermarked dots? A few frames missing shouldn't be noticeable, right?

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Yes, it says in the article:

It's a surprising arrest in any event - typically release groups and cammers go out of their way to eliminate any watermarking evidence. But this one slipped through the cracks.

So, in other words, it was one of these 3: forgot/lazy/mistake.

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Bummer for sure, a shame it had to do with one of those 3 quoted above. Not a big cam guy, more patient and willing to wait for other releases. But a great service they certainly offer, unfortunate to have 1 soldier less.

Best of luck,

poor dude got caught...