Are you afraid to take chances with people? and why? :P
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Are you afraid to take chances with people? and why? :P
Yes
No , I always do. But it doesn't work all the time on people they become annoyied
Depends on what sort of chances you are referring to?
it can really be anything, chance to be friends, chance to give him access to the site he wanna get, chance to believe in what he says et cetera. Some people are let down so many times that they kinda lose their faith in humanity therefore avoiding possible friendships, this is why, they dont want to take chances with people. Actually what i really mean, are you biased? I mean do you approach people neutral or have some kinda bad experience thereby being prejudiced or something? Hope it is clear now.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFoX
yes.. very little things get to me. for example just the fact of a girl breaking up with me drives me nuts even if i don't care about her. But when im the one to break up with her first, i don't even think about her afterwards.
I don't know what kind of phsycological fuck up this is but i go nuts when people fuck me over, even just a little bit. The feeling of someone letting you down is horrible
Sometimes strangers are easier to deal with than friends or family, because friends and family have expectations.
As for handing out invites to my tracker, I have offered a few to a couple of strangers who I felt offered that little bit more than most of the strangers here.
What I would look for in an invitee is that something different. Anyone can beg for an invite, as most do, but some people just ooze that something a little bit special, and those people deserve the opportunity to demonstrate their dedication.
As with all things, first appearances often dictate how people perceive you, so if your a total knob, then people will see you that way, and no matter how hard you try to change that, that first appearance will follow you around forever.
Yes.
This is a prime example of why.
I've given out three invites in about 2+ years.
j0hn to FTN.
Rafi to E****
bd to What.
I have no regrets about inviting any of them.
With people you take a chance every day , dropping your kids off at daycare, walking to school etc. I never had a problem meeting new friends or starting a new job , just be yourself I guess . Oh wait you mean invites ?:lol:
JK i'v never had a regret with all the invites I'v given because I never expected anything in return other than the person being a good sharing member . :)
I recently looked at my invite tree on ftn to see who I thought was one of my best invites had been banned...he was active, made hero rank, donated...guess ya never know.
Just hope it doesn't keep me from getting future invites. :pinch:
TheFoX makes a good point tho , my ex-wife was a cunt with the invite I gave her for Revtt and IPT but live and learn I guess .
Yeah, being let down sucks, yet one shall also look at positive side of such a let down. At least there will be one less people in the world who can let you down :happy: also there is always possibility the reason that one let you down for wasnt at the hands of person who let you down in the first place. There are different dimensions to life that might actually compel someone to let you down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Albo Da Kid
:happy: that was intended for fun nothing more, though obviously we have diffeerent sense of humour, that has nothing to prove that one might let you down. I think you are rushing to judgment, i have been on most sites except ftn n e... , though i am not interested in any of them, dont you think it is a little weird that if i were to let someone down, wouldnt it take place here since this is the only forum that i am using actively i guess? I think someone would come and accuse me of scamming, cheating, trading or any other issue here. Anyway the point is you shall not allow the actions of certan man cloud your judgments. At least this is what i believe anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skizo
Well actually, you are forced to take chance with people everyday because of conditions, if you are working, you obviously gonna take chance with daycare center, You in a way will be forced to take chances. what i meant in this poll is that are you afraid to take chances with people willingly? If it was in your power to give people an opportunity for something, would you willingly give them a chance? Nope i dont mean invites, yet gotta admit that was from where the idea came to me, regarding that i dont give invites too, i only give to my friends and the friends of them, therefore though i usually am not afraid to give people an opportunity for something, yet sometimes, i am kinda afraid of taking chances though.Quote:
Originally Posted by peat moss
Speaking of non-p2p stuff...I have been sorta gifted with the ability to pretty much be able to tell if someone's trustworthy or what have you soon after meeting them (aka a good judge of character)...so I rely on that combined with a good dose of common sense and a dash of wisdom that I have somehow managed to gain considering I'm not even forty..lol.
@TheFox....I remember being told a good while back that you would occasionally give someone a shot at joining your tracker if they came across to you as a worthy 'chance' to take. Tis a rare gesture anymore..good to hear not everyone is case hardened. ;)
When I first started modding on UK-F, one of the other staff thought I was being way too soft when dealing with leechers, yet some of those guys are the core of filesharing these days. Who'd have thought that someone who didn't give a shit about a community five years ago would be a trusted 0day uploader today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zaxx
The fact is that many of our actions are moulded by how we are treated by our peers. Respect breed respect in stable individuals. One of my own staffers was a former hit and runner on a warning.
I always remember one case where I sent a leecher a message saying that if he didn't seed back, his account would be disabled. His response was that he was in so deep that I might as well disable his account. We worked together to help him out of the hole. Each week I would set a target for him to achieve, and when he achieved that target, he was allowed to download another torrent of his choice.
At the end of a two month period, he had regained 'user' status and, more importantly, regained his dignity.
While I disabled a fair few die hard leechers (and IP banned those that kept signing up for new accounts), I also had a good proportion that attained 'user' status. Some even attained 'power user' status, as a way of saying thanks for me being human.
One guy took six months of hard work to attain that 'power user' status, just so he could PM me and say, 'thanks'. The day after I got the PM from him, UK-F was taken down for good...
Then there are those who I trusted implicitly, only for them to burn me. The biggest culprit was a guy that stole my code and circulated parts of it around. Just goes to show that you don't really know who to trust...
Gotta give you props man...amazing that you haven't totally lost faith in the torrent community (outside your site anyway...lol). I recently got a good taste of the 'ya never know' flavor (posted above) and yes...the taste is rather bitter I must say. :dry:
Well, I mingle with a lot of tracker owners and administrators, and I can tell you that feelings towards FST and its members is not favourable, yet I feel different.
To me, if this place was filled with 90% losers and 10% quality, I'd be looking for the quality (I'm not saying what ratio of FST members are crap or quality).
To some, the glass is half empty, but for me the glass is half full, with the potential to top up.
And the real question of this thread is, 'Are we pessimistic or optimistic, and to what degree?'
Very true...and I can honestly say I fall on the optimistic side. To what degree tho? Guess for me that would probably vary from situ to situ. Let's face it, there's always gonna be things that we hadn't counted on to go south..then, for me, it's a question of did this person go out of their way to screw me over (premeditated) or was it something that just 'happened'? If it's intentional, I put that person in my crosshairs (which got me an infraction here for public accusation :dry:). This applies to invites as well as real life. Then there's the good ol 'hind sight is 20/20' saying that def applies, but hey...thats how ya learn. As they say...Screw me once, shame on you..screw me twice, shame on me.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFoX
Tho there are exceptions that come to mind pretty quick...:naughty:
I am far to optomistic, an a push over lol
I have got in countless members from here, and when i do i always put in their modcomments "username" From FST.
Cirno bans them (not just for the hell of it) and gets really pissed off that I trusted them in the first place.
Cirno and me are completely different, Cirno wont take any shit, and the highlight of his day is banning members, me, I feel so bloody guilty banning anyone, and i am always willing to give them the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, chance.
When we had the prize draws for consoles, everything worked great, as Harcroft and Slipfinger were honest as the day they were born (even though Harcroft since then and spread some untruths) but I had a sysop that i had known for 2 years, who said he was in the PC Business, so we had a laptop and other things up for grabs, gave him the cash, never seen the fucker again lol
So it doesnt matter if you have known them for 2 minutes, or 2 years, some will be great forever, others will turn on you at the first sign they are geting something.
But even ater all that, I am still far to trusting, and soft.
as for invites.
For my site i will take anyone, if they fuck up, no skin off my nose, but if i never owned BCG, and i was a member of BitmeTV as an example, and i had Invites, i would never ever dream about using them, or just giing them away to anyone, I would have to know them from other places, and i mean know them really well.
There are some good people in this world, but there are a lot of Cunts as well, you just have to sort through the Cunts to find the gems.
From all the giveaways i have done on here, we have 24 members left from FST and 3 of those are banned, remember though pruning, prunes banned members as well.
So out of the 100`s I have got in from here, we only have 21 members left, all the others either got banned and pruned, or just pruned.
It does make you wonder though.
I never understood why tracker staff look at a pruned account as failure. There can be so many different reasons for that happening. Other interests show up in real life. You lose interest. No proper internet for a while. And many other reasons.
I don't have trouble trusting people. I feel I am a pretty good judge of character. But I am realistic, so I won't just give invites to just anyone... seems to be the essence of this poll.
They should extend the pruning limit time to at least 3 monthsQuote:
Originally Posted by Night0wl
I really don't see why they should ever be pruned. Forced activity is what pruning does. But that's a whole other matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Albo Da KidThey should extend the pruning limit time to at least 3 monthsQuote:
Originally Posted by Night0wl
It is 3 months, if you park your account, and 2 months if you dont.
Whats the point of joining in the first place if you are never going to visit, and get pruned anyway.
I do realise that some trackers are not for everyone, so shit happens, but from the 100`s I have got in from here, to be left with about 20 is pretty shit lol and these are peole that wanted an account, done good posts to get in etc etc. not someone i just dragged from the street and said, come in have a look, they wanted it, and never used it.
Forced activity??
No its not, its just login and thats it.
356748
that is how many members we have had since Dec 2006, we have 29,000 left, thats why we prune, whats the point in keeping 330,000 members if they dont want to be here.
i didnt know bcg gave you 2 months. that seems fair.
some other trackers only give you about 4 weeks.
The reason I said they should extend it, is because sometimes you either forget or you're too busy with stuff in life to even think about torrenting
We have even made members Uploaders/Vips before if they knew they were going away for more than 3 months, as those dont get pruned.
We have had a few soldiers going to Iraq and Afghanistan, if they tell us we will accomodate them the best we can.
Those are the ones that care a bit about their accounts, so i will help them, its the ones that dont give a toss that we prune, even if you loose your net, you should be able to contact us.
We do help/do our part, if the members cant be arsed to tell us, then sorry, but not much more that we can do IMHO.
You are freaking the best in all bt world mate. Seriously no ass licking but a freaking fact.:D I actually kinda admire you and how you handle certain problems. And the way you communicate with both users and non users is just AWESOME!.Quote:
Originally Posted by stoi
Stoi has always had his head on straight and is a great example of what this BT community needs. Just my humble opinion.
And no, I'm not kissin ass to get in Blackcats...I'm already a member. :P
it's great to see old schoolers like TheFox and Stoi replying at this thread, as it immediately adds another dimension to its whole purpose and meaning.
I'm proudly a member of both their sites, and it's easy to see there's ... something else there, which is always a reflection of their own attitudes towards filesharing, e-communities and most of all, a sense of respect long gone in these places.
after this little off topic, i must say i have invited people from here to some sites, and only once one of them let me down, though his account was disabled for inactivity, as later i found out.
this, if we forget about that notorious friendship scammer that was Dunson, which tricked me and several other great people like Funkin, and gained our confidence; and F.B.I. aka I'm Hot, which is a CosaNostra staffer and is a steaming pile of shit.
It's not that i invite people often to trackers, as in all honesty i can't just look at a newb i haven't seen giving his own opinions and all of the suddenly invite him to those "dream" places.
what i value the most is each person's past history of voicing their opinions, their disagreements, their approvals, etc etc. It's what i think can bind me to sympathize with someone, and promptly fulfilling his requests.
heck, one of the person i invited to some places was someone i disagreed a couple of times, but kept his manners and we discussed it in a civilized way.
So, in a general manner, after quite some time at this place, i tend to think that one can't rush to invite someone without thinking twice. But faith isn't lost.
Ok this went way off topic, but you say members don't want to be there, so they are pruned. How many members came here complaining, when you made that keyword thingy? how many asked on countless other sites? Are you saying that those members had zero interest in the site?Quote:
Originally Posted by stoi
I have been deleted on two sites, which I liked and used, just for not logging in for 42 days. Well I was busy and forgot about them. I had a good amount uploaded and downloaded, positive ratio, but for those 42 days I just didn't think to log in.
"Puff" account gone. Forced activity I say.
I knew this was going to come up.
2 months before the keyword change, we sent out a mass announcement, it was in the Global Announcements in the forums, it was on the Main News page at the very top (we never added anything else because it was so important), and we sent out a mass Email from the forum (which granted did not work 100%)
We then done the keyword change, 24,000 out of 48,000 members went, but we could bring them back, but i was on holiday, so altinertia decided to give them another chance.
Again sent another Announcement out, sent another Email, we cant do mass PMs though, and give them another 6 weeks to do their keyword.
All it was, is 1 button in their profile that they had to press, it was not difficult, but we lost 9,000 members.
So they had 3 1/2 months of us telling them, informing them, the only way we could, and some still couldnt do it.
I am very sorry, but that is their own fault, we done everything in our power, and i still see posts now on forums saying "WTF BCG is still up, Damn i thought it was down and lost my account"
you know, if you live in a cave, then its your own fault. I really do not know what else we could have done, apart from, just not bother with the fake page and the keyword thing.
I even made a thread on here which
A: I didnt have to do
B: In hindsight i wish i had not done it.
PS: and btw, if you were a SPU, you never got pruned either, it was only KL-User-PU that got pruned.
Well said...tho I'm only a member of one, from my point of view and lengthy experience I can't help but agree 100%. This in a way helps define the meaning of my title..Old Skool..;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabalo
Oh wonderful...didn't hear about what Dunson pulled, I remember giving him a TL invite a good while back..:frusty:Quote:
this, if we forget about that notorious friendship scammer that was Dunson, which tricked me and several other great people like Funkin, and gained our confidence; and F.B.I. aka I'm Hot, which is a CosaNostra staffer and is a steaming pile of shit.
if you want to see the full story, then read here: http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bit...on-time-332685
He still tries to get back in .He's had about a dozen odd other dupes disabled since then.
so much for his intentions about not coming back... :noes:Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
Pathetic little bastard....but I admit, he fooled me into giving him TL. :dry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabalo
Can't believe FC got him into fsc...I thought me and FC were pretty tight and I've been in P2P for over 8 years...I see where I stand...:cry:
J/K...lmao...I'll get there eventually. :01:
at least i share the same vision with the guy on some issuesQuote:
Originally Posted by Cabalo
and which ones are they ?
disrupting people's confidence in an entire community by instigating the "trust no one" ideology ?
I merely share his opinion on high lvl trackers.Most of them are worthless and overrated, aside from specialized trackers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabalo
Thanks for pointing out the thread, and I must say I thought it was very courageous and impressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zaxx
More people should be upfront like that, and in so doing help the rest. The fact is I experienced pretty much the same disappointment as dunson after I stopped having that "torrent" bug biting my arse as it did for 2 or so (perhaps 2 and half?) odd months last year.
It really is all a waste of time. I want stuff, I grab it - in that sense the usenet is more honest and straight-to-the-point. If I want to have friends, I make them in real life.
Will conclude by saying dunson never disappointed me, I always liked his attitude and kindness.
`*PS*
It's a biting attack, as I like to speak in extremes, though I will admit some people (at a certain tracker I'm thinking about right now) can be really nice, and helpful, and amazing, and make the BT experience more interesting. Nevertheless, that is not the rule. For most cases an impersonal site like TL will fit your needs.
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As for the theme of the thread, even if bilkenter was now banned, I voted "yes" though I do at times take chances with people.
You get bumps along the way, as people can be very different to what you initially expected, or thought. The more unsettling experiences the less you tend to be open, but I like to be open and try to get along well with others so I'll give those I conceive as being worthy a shot - in that sense I do go in with a prejudice, even if I try to avoid making one too soon.
you now share the banhammer as well :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by bilkenterat least i share the same vision with the guy on some issuesQuote:
Originally Posted by Cabalo
Hand jobs are pretty safe. Usually.
-bd