so i found this website, with reasonably cheap seedboxes.
has anyone ever used them??
if so, how are they in terms of speed and reliability?
http://www.feralhosting.com/plans
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so i found this website, with reasonably cheap seedboxes.
has anyone ever used them??
if so, how are they in terms of speed and reliability?
http://www.feralhosting.com/plans
Never used them but know of them. Everyone is always commenting how good the support is and they are always available on IRC etc. Some of the screenshots of speed I've seen have been pretty stellar as well.
Thanks for the info,
i might go with them.
unless you know of any other seedboxes with similar setups?
i'm not sure how their setup compares to my own :)
Unfortunately, the staff isn't very knowledgeable and is rather unprofessional. They didn't know anything about LVM and wouldn't set it up on a dedicated server, despite supposedly offering custom partition layouts.
I stated flat out that if they couldn't offer LVM I wasn't interested and wanted a refund. They proceeded to set up my server anyway. I'm now in the process of attempting to get a refund and will try to update with how that goes.
Heh its interesting to see a seedbox site owner to speak well of another site. Too bad you guys are all sold out :-P
Anyone know what is the set up time is for a seedbox ordered from Feral Hosting?
Less than 72 hours; as it says clearly on their site...:shutup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bungholio1
I'm looking for someone who ordered a seedbox from Feral hosting to comment on the actual time it took between ordering & receipt.Quote:
Originally Posted by FransTormerLess than 72 hours; as it says clearly on their site...:shutup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bungholio1
Feral hosting can quote whatever set up time they want on their website.
:unsure: Not sure what you on about m8 but if someone would say "it took 9 hours", we can make a pretty safe bet that after 10 hours you be here screaming again you didn't get the order fulfilled yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bungholio1
Feral is quoting the maximum setup-times they have from their supplier; there are a zillion factors that can influence every order ranging from a Feral-admin walking his dog 2 minutes longer to a router at the supplier that breaks down for some reason.
Yeah, I do understand you want a clear answer but no, nothing in life is sure nor is a Feral setup...
I asked for the time between order & receipt from anyone who has actually had a Feral box set up.Quote:
Originally Posted by FransTormer:unsure: Not sure what you on about m8 but if someone would say "it took 9 hours", we can make a pretty safe bet that after 10 hours you be here screaming again you didn't get the order fulfilled yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bungholio1
Feral is quoting the maximum setup-times they have from their supplier; there are a zillion factors that can influence every order ranging from a Feral-admin walking his dog 2 minutes longer to a router at the supplier that breaks down for some reason.
Yeah, I do understand you want a clear answer but no, nothing in life is sure nor is a Feral setup...
I'm not looking for any guarantees or commitments.
I payed for a box yesterday but they have them on backorder so it will take at least a couple of days before I get access to it (one of the admins said they would hopefully get the servers within a couple of days).
Another customer contacted me yesterday and said he had already been waiting three days without any news so it seems like it can take quite a while to get a box set up at the moment.
They seem to be pretty new and the availability will probably (hopefully?) improve once they get settled and get better deals with the provider, which I believe is OVH.
I think it's pretty sneaky to write "availability: 9+" and "setup time: <72hrs" when you might have to wait a week or two before getting a box.
But apart from that they seem to be really good, they're cheap, I hear they have nice speeds and their IRC support is good.
I'll update this thread with speedtests and stuff once I get access to the box.
i ordered one, and within 15 minutes it was operational.
but it just depends on your plan, and if they have one available, i guess
lol their whole site is down.
Works just fine for me.
Its back up. Any more reviews?
they have good offer i hope they continue i would test their services if i have seen good reviews.
They seem to be short-staffed so administrative issues might take a while, but Joshua (the main man) is a really friendly and helpful guy.
I went for the power plan and have tried out some torrents and the speeds are great, I get around 10MB/s but it maxes out at more.
I have however only had it for a couple of hours so I can't really comment on the overall speed. Also, the power plan servers are shared by 10 users each.
I started using the server pretty heavily and the owner said he would cap me if I used too much bandwidth.
It's kind of understandable since there are other users on the server too, but I still think they should inform of this up front instead of saying that they do not cap any speeds.
All in all, it's a pretty sweet deal if you only intend on using smaller ammounts of bandwidth (for example seeding at music trackers and such).
If you plan on seeding heavily, I would recommend you choose another supplier (or go with their dedicated plan, but I don't really know how good it is).
Jeez that sucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Affinity
I'm not really sure if I understood what he meant, but I visited the IRC channel to ask if it was possible to raise the maximum ammount of connections per torrents and got this reply:
The servers are shared by 10 people each, but the owner told me the specs were awesome so I don't really understand why many peers would be such a high strain on the server.Quote:
be careful, if you hog too many resources I will lower them. Number of peers != speed on 100Mbps boxes and beyond
It's when it gets hit negatively do I start editing .rtorrent.rc files
I can't remember the specs, but I think it was something along the lines of 8GB RAM and double quad processors.
Isn't it just common sense that if 1 pr!ck messes up the server for everyone he will be limited?, im on Feral aswell and my servers been getting screwed by someone so im all for the limiting its not like you're buying a private 1 user box.
I am also for limiting, but I don't understand why they don't give everyone a fixed limit (in this case 100mbit/s each) instead of letting them use unlimited b/w and then threaten to limit it.
Also, I don't understand why they have a limit of 20 peers per torrent. You can run 100 torrents with 20 active peers each if you like, but it isn't possible to raise the limit for a single torrent above 20.
I'm a total newbie so I don't really understand the technical mumbo jumbo, but the way I understood it he said he would lower the ammount of connections for me to even less than 20 (and possibly limit the bandwidth?) if I used too much server resources.
How should I know how much resources my torrents are eating? :unsure:
And why is this even a problem if the servers have such impressive specs? 2-3 active torrents can't be eating that much CPU/memory, can they?
Hello all,
I'm just going to run through some answers to the questions asked here, I'd rather everything was the truth.
You ordered first before getting an answer on LVM. When I said "no experience" I meant that it's not an option to receive support for; in my position if I had said yes I would have been expected to be an expert with the tools and then would have been blasted when I fall short of not knowing every aspect of LVM.Quote:
Originally Posted by eqisow
There was also another part to decline installing LVM: the servers come with pre-installed images, like many other hosting providers do to help speed up the process of clicking through the installer every time.
Perhaps I should look into more options for the future, who knows.
The times quoted on the plans page are fairly accurate. If there are slots available it will remove the "9+" and "<72 hours" and quote 15 minutes. The number available is the exact number that are available.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bungholio1
There have only been a couple of instances where the set up times have exceeded 3 days, but even then it's not been as bad as a week. I'll happily offer a refund if that does happen though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Affinity
There are 9 users per server, some users will have extra FTP accounts and then there are other files/folders in the /home directories such as ftp, lost+found, to quote off the top of my head.Quote:
Originally Posted by Affinity
As for the capping, it isn't done. What I mentioned to someone on IRC today was that if the user edits the configuration files so that they are dominating sever resources (in one case someone tried to specify 1000 available peers) I will come in and tweak them to give others a fair chance.
When you're looking at using torrent speeds greater than 100Mbps you will find that the people who can fill it also have similar connections so having a huge number of peers will not dramatically increase speeds.
That's all folks! Feel free to drop me a line via e-mail: [email protected] or a support ticket via our website.
I am also working on permanently correcting the set up time thing. I really would prefer 15 minutes over a day or two as well!
OP: Your question was how long it took from your order to receiving a confirmation from your order, it took me 2 minutes. (from receiving the welcome to feralhosting-detals) to receiving the order confirmation from google checkout.
Setup took roughly about 2½ day or so, but according to the website, 72 hours was stated, so that's definately okay.
In terms of seed cap, I was told as well (by Joshua) that adjusting the amount of seeds pr torrent wouldn't make any speed difference. Obviously, this is in my opinion a false statement. Right now my fastest download have been at 4.8 mb/s I think, while connected to 10 seeds, obviously being connected to 20 or 25 seeds on some of the more private trackers would probably increase this speed as well.
Also, I wrote how to do this, and I got a nice email describing in detail how to adjust seeds/torrents - But no warning regarding adjustment of the speeds. (I was gonna bump it to 25 pr torrent in stead, which is also what I use at home whenever I download/upload stuff on my uTorrent client).
At first feralhosting can seem a bit confusing, but I think I am getting the hang of it and so far it seems reasonable.
Right now the page is down :( - which sucks. Can't connect to anything unfortunately. Might be the firewall where I work, not sure though.
EDIT:
Seems like it's the firewall where I work that's blocking the traffic. I am able to connect using the Remote GUI through an open proxy somewhere in Germany.
Yeah, I understand that it can be a bit clogged up from time to time if the supplier doesn't have enough servers available, but if that is the case I think you should rather put out a notice about it on the site. I wouldn't mind waiting a few days extra as long as I were informed about the server status.Quote:
Originally Posted by _Lemon_
I recieved my account within the given time (<72hrs), but as I said, I spoke to guy who had already waited three days when I placed my order and I am assuming he recieved his account at around the same time as me.
I'm not in any way racking down on you, I am just giving suggestions to try to improve the service for the users.
I'm not neccessarily looking to max out the connection, but as previously stated I haven't been able to get more than 1MB/s upstream, even on popular torrents with one seeder and many leechers.Quote:
Originally Posted by _Lemon_
That was however back when the peer limit was 20. I have yet to try out the new limit (40), but I am assuming (and hoping) that I will be able to get at least a bit better speed upstream.
The downstream speeds have been insane, peaking at about 60MB/s (yes, 60MB/s!).
Also, I haven't quite understood the whole "resource hogging" thing. Wouldn't it be possible to limit the user to 100Mbit/s each, instead of giving everyone full access to the Gbit line?
That way, people would be able to max out the connection without having to worry about causing trouble for the other users. It feels a bit weird to have to limit the torrent speeds yourself.
Then the peers you are connected to have pretty slow connections. I was able to max out a torrent at a whopping 60MB/s, downloading a file of ~8GB in a matter of minutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by xeqtr
That was also when they had the 20 peers per torrent limit. It has now been increased to 40 per torrent, which means better speeds (assuming the people you are connected to have slow connection).
I am of the same opinion. That could however be because I am new to this whole seedbox deal, but I am also pleased with the service (especially for the low price they offer).Quote:
Originally Posted by xeqtr
I have yet to find a host that matches their plans and prices.
They have been having some DNS issues, but it should be fixed very soon and then there will be no connection problems. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by xeqtr
On a side note I can mention that the reason why you can't reach the site is because your DNS hasn't been updated, the "problem" is in other word not server side and there is nothing feral can do to speed up the update process. AFAIK no DNS updates take more than 72hrs, so everyone should be able to fully access the site/servers within a day or so.
EDIT: For some reason, the peer limit is 20 on some torrents and 40 on others. Does anyone have any idea why it is this way?
Could it have something to do with the torrents size? The torrent which is <1GB has a maximum peer limit of 40, but the larger torrent (5GB+) has a limit of 20.
The site seems to be down atm =/
I have one question for you lemon, will you guys be affected by the new change in OVH plans?
It's very much appreciated. I do consider all the feedback given and really, this has come up a few times. The "9+" is confusing and could be replaced with something a bit clearer. However I'm in the school of thought that I really should be investing ahead in having many more servers up and ready available. Bring on the 15 minute set up times (basically the time it takes for the payment to come through + 5 minutes)!Quote:
Originally Posted by Affinity
There isn't anything to say "less peers for larger torrents" in rTorrent or Transmission as far as I'm aware. It could be quite simply a matter of not having that many peers available for the torrent -- can't [em]make[/em] them want to connect to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Affinity
DNS issues (DNS is hosted at Leaseweb currently). Refreshing constantly until until it decides it does want to work seems to get things working just fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rart
Only the speed plans are on the Kimsufi and I reckon the bandwidth is better than before but only time will tell. I plan to double the disk space on the speed plans and then sell off the old Kimsufi L servers that I have on a first come first server basis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rart
'DNS issues'
Open a command line prompt and type 'ipconfig /flushdns'. That should clear it, and it should also flush the toilet, he he he.
Ahhh unfortunately it's nothing to do with your own computer. It's all Leaseweb's side of things as they're running it.Quote:
Originally Posted by redguard
I think things have cleared up now, should be OK within 24 hours.
I've been doing some testing and it appears as if rtorrent automatically places a limit of 20 peers per torrent when leeching and then bumps it up to 40 once it starts seeding.Quote:
Originally Posted by _Lemon_
Is it possible to change the limit manually? As I said, I'm not out to hog resources, but wouldn't it be possible for you to put out a global connection limit and then let the users decide how they want to distribute them? I'd prefer running a single torrent with 50 or maybe even up to 100 peers than a whole bunch of torrents with 20 peers each.
Also, do you offer RSS support (in form of RSSDler or similar) ? I added an RSS feed to the webGUI of rtorrent, but apparantly it is simply an RSS-reader which displays new torrents.
Ahh, well in that case, edit your ~/.rtorrent.rc file and restart rtorrent. You're wanting to change the values "max_peers" and "max_peers_seed".Quote:
Originally Posted by Affinity
The RSS feeds in wtorrent are a bit useless. There is also a lot of information on our internal FAQ pages, under software there is quite a good guide on setting RSS up properly: https://www.feralhosting.com/manager...ew?question=23Quote:
Originally Posted by Affinity
On a side-note, finally got through plenty of new servers I've been waiting on. You can see the plans page telling you how many slots there are that will be set up in 15 minutes!
Finally got a box from them and am relatively satisfied. On the Power Plan (160gb storage gigabit for $25/month)
Down speeds go from 2-7MB/s. Up speeds on a somewhat active torrent is between 1-2.5MB/s. Tried a speed test on the FTP to wget a file from another server and that averaged at about 9MB/s.
I really like the fact that they have an active IRC channel, with staff there to help if needed.
My setup time was 10 minutes:
Ordered at: Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:40 AM
System ready at: Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:50 AM
Rock steady server and up/down speeds.
I tried them out for a month. They weren't for me, since they didn't allow any additional program installations outside of what came with the server. Other than that, speeds were decent and so was support. I'd recommend them if you're just looking to torrent and willing to use their software package.
For price Ferahosting offers it's best seedbox I have got till this day! Using 10 GBP Space Plan.First week speeds was not that great, but then they slowly picked up and now it's averega 10-30 MB/s down speed and same with uploud.Best results was like 50 MB/s UP/ 55 MB/s DOWN simultaneously couple of days ago. Depends how many active users are on your server.Many people are using like couple of torrents of week, others like evertything that comes. :D
@Lemon
Are you planning to offer rTorrent+ruTorrent anytime in the future?
I am really not a fan of wTorrent but like the look of your seedbox deals.
EDIT: found it in the FAQs. I got a feral box just after posting this and received it within 10 minutes
thats already been available for a while
I setup with feral hosting a little while ago and I've been really happy with their service. My torrents d/l fast and they seed fast as well. the gui's can get slow at times but thats only if you have a ton of trackers and a crappy connection... or it could just be raining out side.
I'm on the edge of getting another account with them. Had to do some car maint. so we shall see next week.
Here is a screen shot of the fastest speeds I was able to get from them.
http://i38.tinypic.com/2z51ue9.jpg
i've had a feral box for about 2wks now and im not that happy with their service. First of all, their upload is capped to 3MB/s on my box so the minimum is the max for me and my server keeps running out of ram, torrents just crawl to a stop... this is with about ~40-50 torrents running... ridiculous
also, rtorrent was meant to be upgraded from 0.8.4 -> 0.8.5 which hasn't been done because of 'compiling' errors on debian ...
What's the specification of the box? 40-50 active torrents is a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabre
I'm kind so here's a hint: Tell him to use SVN.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabre