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i have a new car, well its not that new year 2001 but i will be changing my coolant/antifreeze myself. the thing is my manual says i need a glycol/ethynol based solution with a MOAT additive. i cant find any with this additive at a auto store and if i take it to the dealer they want to charge me out the butt for this svc. would it hurt any to use just regular coolant solution?
What kind of car?
Do you know if it has an aluminum or cast iron engine block/head?
I'd be hard put to believe there is anything peculiar about the antifreeze; if what is currently in your car is "green" or "orange/pink" in color generally determines it's formulation-you should be able to tell the guy (or girl) at your parts store which color, and receive the correct stuff, I think. :)
:unsure: I've never heard of MOAT.
I'm guessing it's an acronym.... but of what?
its a pt cruiser, and i dont really know what the engine block is made of but i think i'll call the parts store to check
block: iron
head: aluminium
http://www.velocityjrnl.com/jrnl/2001/vmd429pf.html
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I'm guessing it's an acronym.... but of what?
Of luv mayb
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Multispecific Organic Anion Transporter.
:'(
Ripley02-
I think MOAT is HOAT, actually-stands for "something" organic acid "something" if I remember correctly.
I found this for you-it is 2002 spec, but still applies:
The orange coolant is called by the generic name 'Dex-Cool'. Even though that's a GM trade name, everyone uses it. Any brand of Dex-Cool will work. I use the Halvoline brand @ $6.79 / gallon.
The green coolant must not be mixed with the orange or magenta coolants. When replacing coolant a complete system flush must be performed before using the replacement coolant.
Caution - Mopar Antifreeze/Coolant, 5 Year/100,000 Mile Formula (MS-9769) may not be mixed with any other type of antifreeze. Doing so will reduce the corrosion protection and may result in premature water pump seal failure. If non-HOAT coolant is introduced into the cooling system in an emergency, it should be replaced with the specified coolant as soon as possible.
Source - 2002 PT Cruiser Service Manual\
Hope it helps.
:huh: You forgot to say "Bort! Bort! Bort!"Quote:
Originally posted by lynx@1 October 2003 - 12:02
Multispecific Organic Anion Transporter.
:'(
- I don't understand what that means either. :P
:huh: You forgot to say "Bort! Bort! Bort!"Quote:
Originally posted by titey+1 October 2003 - 18:08--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (titey @ 1 October 2003 - 18:08)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-lynx@1 October 2003 - 12:02
Multispecific Organic Anion Transporter.
:'(
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- I don't understand what that means either. :P
Neither do I.
Bork! Bork! Bork! :P
Why do you need anti-freeze when the temperature never drops below 20 degrees celsius, even at night?
Oh, sorry, I forgot, you don't all live in Cairns do you!
:)
It's also an anti-corrosive.
And it raises the boiling temperature too.
Oh, and I think the MOAT stuff stops sludge and other deposits in the engine and radiator.
Oh.... I thought it was Bort!.... silly me. http://www.piczonline.com/client/titey/goof.gifQuote:
Originally posted by lynx@1 October 2003 - 12:10
Neither do I.
Bork! Bork! Bork! :P
what in gods name are you guys upto now :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: got to love the lounge with you guys in it :lol: what kind of care is it bud??
By all accounts, problem solved, then?
The right anti-freeze and a dose of silliness to wash it down?
NO, WAIT!! DON'T DRINK THE........
OH, MY......
Too late!!!!
@ MM - Don't you ever read? <_<Quote:
Originally posted by ripley02@1 October 2003 - 11:44
its a pt cruiser
damn i didnt think it would be as complicated as it sounds!!!
i think i just might take it in since i dont want to f*** this up!!!
sorry i was so busy laughing from the other thread that i missed daaaa
The problem with your car is quite simple, you're not feeding the little mouse (that turns the wheels) enough food. Feed it some grub and then see what happens ;)
http://www.piczonline.com/client/titey/huh1.gif I think our resident genius, j2k4 straightened things out for you....Quote:
Originally posted by ripley02@1 October 2003 - 12:33
damn i didnt think it would be as complicated as it sounds!!!
i think i just might take it in since i dont want to f*** this up!!!
- ....you oughta be able to handle it on yer own now. http://www.piczonline.com/client/titey/thmbup.gif
Nope, it's easy.Quote:
Originally posted by ripley02@1 October 2003 - 18:33
damn i didnt think it would be as complicated as it sounds!!!
i think i just might take it in since i dont want to f*** this up!!!
If the stuff that's in there is green, get green stuff. If it's orange, get orange stuff, if it's purple, get purple stuff.
And if it's blue with yellow spots, go and see your doctor. :P
Hey, I just realised.
Shouldn't this be in Hardwareworld? :rolleyes:
Nope, it's easy.Quote:
Originally posted by lynx+1 October 2003 - 13:38--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lynx @ 1 October 2003 - 13:38)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ripley02@1 October 2003 - 18:33
damn i didnt think it would be as complicated as it sounds!!!
i think i just might take it in since i dont want to f*** this up!!!
If the stuff that's in there is green, get green stuff. If it's orange, get orange stuff, if it's purple, get purple stuff.
And if it's blue with yellow spots, go and see your doctor. :P [/b][/quote]
Just so-
Coordinate your colors, Ripley-consult an interior decorator, if you must.
Lynx-the extra "content" in this thread is a special additive designed to render it uncompatible with "Hardwareworld". ;)
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Originally posted by j2k4@1 October 2003 - 12:45
uncompatible
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Originally posted by titey+1 October 2003 - 13:48--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (titey @ 1 October 2003 - 13:48)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-j2k4@1 October 2003 - 12:45
uncompatible
Non-compatible, if you prefer, then.
HOOSIER!
I find non-compatible incompatible. :rolleyes:
I imagine so. ;)Quote:
Originally posted by lynx@1 October 2003 - 14:08
I find non-compatible incompatible. :rolleyes:
go here car maintenenceQuote:
Originally posted by ripley02@1 October 2003 - 17:57
i have a new car, well its not that new year 2001 but i will be changing my coolant/antifreeze myself. the thing is my manual says i need a glycol/ethynol based solution with a MOAT additive. i cant find any with this additive at a auto store and if i take it to the dealer they want to charge me out the butt for this svc. would it hurt any to use just regular coolant solution?
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Originally posted by j2k4+1 October 2003 - 12:53--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4 @ 1 October 2003 - 12:53)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Non-compatible, if you prefer, then.[/b]Quote:
Originally posted by titey@1 October 2003 - 13:48
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Originally posted by j2k4@1 October 2003 - 12:45
uncompatible
:huh: I was just so shocked to see a wordsmith such as y'self use a "word" like that.
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HOOSIER![/quote]
Was that intended as some sort of insult.... you'll have to try harder my friend. :P
Was that intended as some sort of insult.... you'll have to try harder my friend. :P[/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by titey+2 October 2003 - 10:04--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (titey @ 2 October 2003 - 10:04)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>:huh: I was just so shocked to see a wordsmith such as y'self use a "word" like that.Quote:
Originally posted by j2k4@1 October 2003 - 12:53
Non-compatible, if you prefer, then.Quote:
Originally posted by titey@1 October 2003 - 13:48
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Originally posted by j2k4@1 October 2003 - 12:45
uncompatible
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HOOSIER!
These days, who's to say what's correct? I have heard both "uses" legitimized as high-end Ebonics.
Incompatible? Yes, I would have thought so, but....
I catch myself saying "ain't" quite often, also.
"Hoosier" is certainly not a slur, is it? More a statement of "plain" fact. :)
Isn't Indiana just the "Lower" Lower-Penninsula?
I love Indiana, though I must say, I spend too much time traversing it in a North/South fashion; I would love to have a reason to try an East/West jaunt-alas, I haven't one. :(
Where exactly are you, if you don't mind?
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Originally posted by j2k4+2 October 2003 - 10:03--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4 @ 2 October 2003 - 10:03)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>These days, who's to say what's correct? I have heard both "uses" legitimized as high-end Ebonics.
Incompatible? Yes, I would have thought so, but....
I catch myself saying "ain't" quite often, also.[/b]
"Ain't" is perfectly acceptable in my mind.... but unpossible just sounded uncorrect! :P
You didn't say Hoosier.... you said HOOSIER!.... which appeared to mean something....Quote:
Originally posted by j2k4@2 October 2003 - 10:03
"Hoosier" is certainly not a slur, is it? More a statement of "plain" fact. :)
- I don't know exactly what. :blink:
:D Ah.... so yer from Michigan.... I couldn't remember.Quote:
Originally posted by j2k4@2 October 2003 - 10:03
Isn't Indiana just the "Lower" Lower-Penninsula?
:huh: Why? It's all pretty much the same.... 'cept for the southernmost parts.... when it starts to get hilly.Quote:
Originally posted by j2k4@2 October 2003 - 10:03
I love Indiana, though I must say, I spend too much time traversing it in a North/South fashion; I would love to have a reason to try an East/West jaunt-alas, I haven't one. :(
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Where exactly are you, if you don't mind?[/quote]
Near Richmond.... that's east-central.... near the Ohio border.... off of I-70.
I live in the country.... south of town. :)