Is Trading BAD?

All jokes aside...Is trading bad??

I know there has been discussions regarding this before, but I kind of want to tackle this subject again to see the difference between how "trading" is looked at now that the BT world has evolved, and then.

You really are controversial :lol:

Are you bored albo?

C'mon, stop the spamming dude.. I'm trying to get a good 'ol thread going here

Seriously though, where does trading stand on the eyes of BT/anti-tradres now?? Is it still considered a felony?

"ol" thread ? or "old"? because I bet there is a similar "old" thread that is here already...

Maybe.

http://www.dirtybutclean.com/uploade...ore-721511.jpg

wow you guys have no class whatsoever...

Kushblow, what's the matter with you.. Did I go and spam the shit out of your Ftn thread when you were in need?? No, I went out of my way and helped you out with decent info

C'mon dude grow the fcuk up!

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Originally Posted by Albo Da Kid

C'mon, stop the spamming dude.. I'm trying to get a good 'ol thread going here

Seriously though, where does trading stand on the eyes of BT/anti-tradres now?? Is it still considered a felony?

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Well this is a spam thread so...

how in the world is this a spam thread??

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Originally Posted by Albo Da Kid

I know there has been discussions regarding this before, but I kind of want to tackle this subject again to see the difference between how "trading" is looked at now that the BT world has evolved, and then.

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It's a lot like it was way back on June 3, 2009- when you posted this... :P

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bit...s-353652/page3

http://i29.tinypic.com/2a7vcko.jpg

I wasn't going to spam ya, but c'mon... :D

nvm

Depends on. If you trade for a tracker that you really desire and want completely and have determined that there's no other way to get it, then I'd say it's okey. If you get in to trackers for their rarity your an idiot, so I'd say most traders and anti-traders here on FST are complete morons.

Yep trading is bad.

But using other people's accounts is cool, right Albo? :naughty:

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Originally Posted by NSMB

Depends on. If you trade for a tracker that you really desire and want completely and have determined that there's no other way to get it, then I'd say it's okey. If you get in to trackers for their rarity your an idiot, so I'd say most traders and anti-traders here on FST are complete morons.

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agreed. honestly i find more idiotic the anti-traders than the regular traders. top of all of them are the traders who live by the levels bible.

well u you can be a ass licker and get your trackers in the process of loosing your self respect :eyebrows:

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Originally Posted by apextwin146

well u you can be a ass licker and get your trackers in the process of loosing your self respect :eyebrows:

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What's self respect? :lol:

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Originally Posted by sez

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Originally Posted by Albo Da Kid

C'mon, stop the spamming dude.. I'm trying to get a good 'ol thread going here

Seriously though, where does trading stand on the eyes of BT/anti-tradres now?? Is it still considered a felony?

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Well this is a spam thread so...

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If this is spam then this forum needs a serious clean up :blink:

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Originally Posted by Albo Da Kid

Is trading bad??

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Trading is not bad in my opinion. Some people just make it sound bad.

If you take a look at old trading threads you won't see anyone bashing the trader. Nowadays every single thread is bashed, especially the higher level trades.

Bittorrent has evolved from a filesharing protocol into a game (traders, anti-traders, non traders, tracker levels, comparisons, reviews, asskissing, global banning, community lovers, bashing, invite forums, secrecy etc).

If someone's going to reply to my post then don't expect me to answer a single one before Monday, maybe Tuesday.

I'm off for the weekend, see you later filesharingtalk. :holiday:

GiveAway = is a one way communication. i.e. people giving out trackers to those in need of it.

Request = is a one way communication i.e. people asking tracker for their needs.

So Combine both GiveAway+Request = Trading.

Trading = Two way communication where communication occurs from both side and both may be in need of it or may not.

All these three have their own advantages and disadvantages.

In brief both are same, only we people are *U*ked up. and start taking one side or other side. Nothing is bad or good mate. If u want something then It doesn't matter whether its right or wrong:D. No one is :ghostface Saint.

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Originally Posted by maverick_andy

GiveAway = is a one way communication. i.e. people giving out trackers to those in need of it.

Request = is a one way communication i.e. people asking tracker for their needs.

So Combine both GiveAway+Request = Trading.

Trading = Two way communication where communication occurs from both side and both may be in need of it or may not.

All these three have their own advantages and disadvantages.

In brief both are same, only we people are *U*ked up. and start taking one side or other side. Nothing is bad or good mate. If u want something then It doesn't matter whether its right or wrong:D. No one is :ghostface Saint.

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BRo this is just awesome .. I think this is as relevant to Bit Torrent as The theory of relativity is to Physics ..
Well done ... I just hope you dont die early like all the other prodigies as evident from the history..

/me always late to the party :(


@albo i know youre not against trading, and dupe accounts, but do you really want our opinions on this ?

Where have u been ? This place is not the same without you :p

ps: Trading bad or not, doesn't matter, the guy who made the tracker, doesn't want it so, just follow his rules, and shut up.

Make your own tracker, and recruit all your friends, let them trade, and giveaway, whatever.

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Originally Posted by apextwin146

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Originally Posted by maverick_andy

GiveAway = is a one way communication. i.e. people giving out trackers to those in need of it.

Request = is a one way communication i.e. people asking tracker for their needs.

So Combine both GiveAway+Request = Trading.

Trading = Two way communication where communication occurs from both side and both may be in need of it or may not.

All these three have their own advantages and disadvantages.

In brief both are same, only we people are *U*ked up. and start taking one side or other side. Nothing is bad or good mate. If u want something then It doesn't matter whether its right or wrong:D. No one is :ghostface Saint.

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BRo this is just awesome .. I think this is as relevant to Bit Torrent as The theory of relativity is to Physics ..
Well done ... I just hope you dont die early like all the other prodigies as evident from the history..

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:lol: This is probably the dumbest thing I have read in a long, long time. So bad, in fact, that I am going to take nOObzOr's advice (see my sig for details).

Oh, BTW, this "theory" fails in philosophy (ethics) and also from a communications standpoint. Good luck with that MENSA app!

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Where have u been ? This place is not the same without you :p

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Yes you bring joy and happiness to this place :pinch: .

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Originally Posted by maverick_andy

GiveAway = is a one way communication. i.e. people giving out trackers to those in need of it.

Request = is a one way communication i.e. people asking tracker for their needs.

So Combine both GiveAway+Request = Trading.

Trading = Two way communication where communication occurs from both side and both may be in need of it or may not.

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Simple as mathematics:


Trading = Banned
Cheating = Banned
GiveAway = Banned (Sometimes) or 1 Warning
HnR = Warning
2 Warnings = Banned

Then :
Banned = Trading = Cheating = 2xHnR = 2xWarnings = GiveAway (or 2xGiveAways)

Does trading hurt your leg? :D

User A wants a movie tracker(eg-KG) and User B wants a music tracker(eg-Waffles) ,they're both good users and know how to keep a good ratio and exchange their invites and become great members of their invited sites. This is essentially trading and I can't see what's wrong with it.

Trading is bad if its done just for the fun of it or when the user just wants to take a peek into these highly sought after trackers and never utilise them properly.

indeed, it completely depends on the way it is done.
for example, many good KG users have no interest in talking about BT in external forums: being aware of the new trends and the complex ethical 'rules' that predominate in this kind of communities is the least of their worries... that's the reason why some of them trade invites to get into trackers they want to be a part of, and trust me, there's nothing evil in this approach. i mean, they don't trade for the fun and they generally aren't experienced in this practice... they simply consider trading as an exchange of friendly services and the fastest way to obtain what they are looking for, nothing more nothing less.
unfortunately, most traders from bittorrent forums are into 'level escalation' and are perverted by all this importance people attach to trackers... it makes you wonder...

Trading.....maybe its a good way to get high level tracker....but it may also destroy one's torrenting life.....everyone has his own way of thinking.

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Originally Posted by lisabritpop

Trading.....maybe its a good way to get high level tracker....but it may also destroy one's torrenting life.....everyone has his own way of thinking.

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It "destroys" your torrenting "life" because the site owners disapprove of it. And rightfully so! If they wanted an open-to-the-public tracker, they would make *any guesses here...?* an open-to-the-public tracker. :O

On the same note, good users who signup (properly) for private trackers like *any guesses this time...?* private trackers. :O

Trading disrespects the owners and staff who donate their time, energy, and (often) money. It also has the potential to allow in users who would otherwise not be welcome.

Great Q, OP. :rolleyes:

BTW, this post is not aimed at you lisa. Just expanding on what you said. :)

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Originally Posted by cinephilia

indeed, it completely depends on the way it is done.
for example, many good KG users have no interest in talking about BT in external forums: being aware of the new trends and the complex ethical 'rules' that predominate in this kind of communities is the least of their worries... that's the reason why some of them trade invites to get into trackers they want to be a part of, and trust me, there's nothing evil in this approach. i mean, they don't trade for the fun and they generally aren't experienced in this practice... they simply consider trading as an exchange of friendly services and the fastest way to obtain what they are looking for, nothing more nothing less.
unfortunately, most traders from bittorrent forums are into 'level escalation' and are perverted by all this importance people attach to trackers... it makes you wonder...

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Trading, swapping or whatever you call it has always been a part of society. Usually when there are prices involved, though. I bet if someone educated the people you're mentioning how easy it is to get into the trackers they want, they would have no need to trade. ;)

If you take the time to read the rules of mosts sites for invites it states they are for your friends.
To me spking to some one once who has offered an invite does not make them a friend as no way do you know them.
From that you cn conclude my thoughts on the matter :)

no matter what.. the traders will continue to trade. Fact.
all we can do is keep an eye out on trackers being responsible members.. thats about it. ;)

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Originally Posted by n00bz0r

no matter what.. the traders will continue to trade. Fact.
all we can do is keep an eye out on trackers being responsible members.. thats about it. ;)

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So true n00bz0r :)

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Originally Posted by apextwin146

BRo this is just awesome .. I think this is as relevant to Bit Torrent as The theory of relativity is to Physics ..
Well done ... I just hope you dont die early like all the other prodigies as evident from the history..

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:lol: This is probably the dumbest thing I have read in a long, long time. So bad, in fact, that I am going to take nOObzOr's advice (see my sig for details).

Oh, BTW, this "theory" fails in philosophy (ethics) and also from a communications standpoint. Good luck with that MENSA app!

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another moron:D who think I am arguing with them:frusty::frusty:. See the threads purpose then post your thoughts.

about

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Never argue with fools..they bring you down to their level & beat you with their experience..

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some time even fools use this as their weapon to defend themselves:yup::lol:

This place has undergone a revolution of some sort,this is not how such threads have been conducted before.Usually there's vile bashing that in the end doesn't help any cause at all,so kudos peoples:fst:

I don't know why its titled as 'what.cd bullying forums' but hell WhatMan did an outstanding job here telling off this invite pusher forum,though am of the opinion that the main difference between invite gives and invite trades lies in the spirit.You give money to charity expecting nothing in return,thats you being generous,same as in giveaways.You do the same to a political party expecting some favor at the end,thats you being selfish, same as in trading.But if you are undergoing a moral crisis such that selfishness and generosity appear indistinguishable then you are accurate to infer both of them as honourable.
If its an argument on security then both of them are flawed(though trading is more dangerous seeing that its driven by selfishness) and it all comes down to the level of caution applied(which in trading is near none coz of the selfishness factor same as with some horny teenage boy jumping in there without protection coz he is too horny to reach his back pocket for the rubber.Then before you know it,the girl's parents are democrats and the boy's family is whacked i.e republican).

Anyways here's the WhatMan thingy I was refering to :)
http://pastebin.ca/1571049

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Originally Posted by cinephilia

indeed, it completely depends on the way it is done.
for example, many good KG users have no interest in talking about BT in external forums: being aware of the new trends and the complex ethical 'rules' that predominate in this kind of communities is the least of their worries... that's the reason why some of them trade invites to get into trackers they want to be a part of, and trust me, there's nothing evil in this approach. i mean, they don't trade for the fun and they generally aren't experienced in this practice... they simply consider trading as an exchange of friendly services and the fastest way to obtain what they are looking for, nothing more nothing less.
unfortunately, most traders from bittorrent forums are into 'level escalation' and are perverted by all this importance people attach to trackers... it makes you wonder...

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Trading, swapping or whatever you call it has always been a part of society. Usually when there are prices involved, though. I bet if someone educated the people you're mentioning how easy it is to get into the trackers they want, they would have no need to trade. ;)

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not that easy since you have to register in bt forums, "make friends" or suck the right dicks.
you have to understand that some (good) bt users don't spend time into this kind of process.

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Trading disrespects the owners and staff who donate their time, energy, and (often) money. It also has the potential to allow in users who would otherwise not be welcome.

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;)....I agree with you,m8....No one would take his risk of inviting a trader,I rly dont think traders will make great contributions with their efforts..

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Originally Posted by n00bz0r

no matter what.. the traders will continue to trade. Fact.
all we can do is keep an eye out on trackers being responsible members.. thats about it. ;)

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thats just what i can do

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Originally Posted by The_Martinator

Trading, swapping or whatever you call it has always been a part of society. Usually when there are prices involved, though. I bet if someone educated the people you're mentioning how easy it is to get into the trackers they want, they would have no need to trade. ;)

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not that easy since you have to register in bt forums, "make friends" or suck the right dicks.
you have to understand that some (good) bt users don't spend time into this kind of process.

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I do understand that, but the thing is you don't have to suck dick. You should be able to get into those sites by just being yourself. I'm not talking about FST, that's for sure. ;)

true but some people have other things to do than registering and 'being themselves' in forums they're not interested in, just for an invite.
as for myself, i find it understandable.

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Originally Posted by cinephilia

true but some people have other things to do than registering and 'being themselves' in forums they're not interested in, just for an invite.
as for myself, i find it understandable.

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Well, you've got a point there. Tbh, I was one of them a little over a year ago. It's just that I didn't resort to trading, I just figured I'd never get into tracker with invite systems that aren't open signup.

I'm not saying I don't understand them either. That doesn't change the fact that staffs don't like them trading, though.