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Recruiters could offering membership in their trackers, such thing would develop our community to a next level.
what's your opinion about that?
let's say, we have some members here in FST that are spread around tracker communities, so I guess this idea could come true.
It's time to improve our community!
for starters..i want to thank the OP for starting a topic such as this..
The communities that have recruiters dont support trading and generally ban the traders in addition to supplying their info to the trackers..
So,I am pretty sure something of that sort will never happen on FST..which forces me to state the fact that there won't be any official recruitment threads till there is a drastic change in the policies of FST as a board..(which, i highly doubt, will EVER happen)
so.. you better stick to other invite pushing boards out there.. (am sure many won't like the sound of this..but, its a fact ya guys will have to live with.)
will never happen on fst
there is only one particular forum i wont mention that has recruiters from every possible tracker you can think of
nice point of view. I didn't think about that, I confess.Quote:
Originally Posted by n00bz0r
but let's see, it could happen remove the trade section and to get a recruiters section...
FST needs to take a new step in my opinion...
Probably we need some statistics to know how many users are against the idea to remove trade section and turn on recruiters zone.
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Originally Posted by unrealdz
I know what you are talking about.
It can happen on FST too. Believe me, every forum needs to adapt to the evolution... I don't give up from this idea till FST community says to me that supports more Trade than Recruiters actions.
Go suck up to recruiters on The Pirate Society.
The majority of people think that this place is a place for traders. So that's so. I didn't mean that everybody are traders here :D
So how could you imagine Recruiters here? Well recruiters near the traders...it looks great, right?
should I take your statement like a typical Trade guy ?Quote:
Originally Posted by TrollinThunder
Do you fear a possible change?
And what about, you talk with some respect?
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Originally Posted by aen
I know and I understand. The Non Traders can change this FST view like a trading place.
Maybe FST have a position about this. I would like to know from them.
Or Maybe they care about all the members and propose a poll to infer about what the community feels.
Will never happen. I'd never offer unlimited invites here, for what should be obvious reasons. If you see a member who you feel deserves to be invited, nothing stops a staffer here from inviting them (it's happened before).
Yes, do this. FST is an open discussion board. It is more about letting people discuss whatever they want, where other forums like TPS and more about getting their members invites and pleasing tracker staff. They would censor or delete most things that tracker staff complain about, because discussion is secondary to invites.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrollinThunder
FST isn't as invite-centered as other sites, and it holds that niche. It would be very stupid on our part to lose this advantage and become one and the same with the dozens of other invite-moving clones.
come on guys, things can change. I am not saying recruiters come here and coexist with traders.Quote:
Originally Posted by ca_aok
I am talking about cleaning trade section. traders would search for a new place.
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Originally Posted by TrueSoundsYes, do this. FST is an open discussion board. It is more about letting people discuss whatever they want, where other forums like TPS and more about getting their members invites and pleasing tracker staff. They would censor or delete most things that tracker staff complain about, because discussion is secondary to invites.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrollinThunder
FST isn't as invite-centered as other sites, and it holds that niche. It would be very stupid on our part to lose this advantage and become one and the same with the dozens of other invite-moving clones.
Not true. We are talking about File Saring Discussions and Support section. FST will be FST forever, only discussing about one easy move: Trade section off and getting a Recruiters zone. Itīs only my opinion and I respect yours.
fst stands for filesharingtalk just in case you didn't know... fst don't need recruiters - we are here to discuss and have fun, not to chase invites.Quote:
Originally Posted by placebocrazycome on guys, things can change. I am not saying recruiters come here and coexist with traders.Quote:
Originally Posted by ca_aok
I am talking about cleaning trade section. traders would search for a new place.
What he said but I think that there is a lot of hypocrisy to recruiting on invite forums so whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by n00bz0r
If you are a decent person you can get invited from FST recruiters or no.I've only ever asked for and gotten one thing at FST (TVT) but because I've been a good member and transparent in everything I do I've gotten into other places.That's history and honesty.
Requirement takes very little of that into consideration .Person is on tracker A and tracker B .Person has seedbox to buffer accounts and a bit of cash to donate.Person is accepted.
Just my opinion but if you are a lying asshole you can fool everyone and get recruited from said invite forums .
Here the invites to the more elusive sites come hard but people get into places( outside the traders of course) because of who they are rather than some fucking meaningless stats.
Take away invites/trades from FST and for good or bad it's still FST .Take away invites from some other places and there is little appeal I'm sure to them.
QFTQuote:
Originally Posted by ca_aok
FST members do get asked to join other sites by their staffers on a routinely basis.
But asking for recruitment threads is a bit too much to ask..
FST members are free to request stuff in the designated area, which gets checked up more often than not by staffers from other sites.:yup:
I am not chasing invites. I don't need them anymore. I only thought getting staff near fst we would improve. only that.Quote:
Originally Posted by cinephiliafst stands for filesharingtalk just in case you didn't know... fst don't need recruiters - we are here to discuss and have fun, not to chase invites.Quote:
Originally Posted by placebocrazy
Why I begin this idea? Since I figure out our list of contacts of tracker staff is out of date. I think getting them closer to us would be better.
Do you think you can learn more with traders than old members on staffs?
we need recruiters for Airforce.
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Originally Posted by R0D3NT
We are recruiting just now some neurons to you, dear member. Wait for them. Then you can reply with some intelligence to this topic.
The Airforce consists of a bunch of pansies and glory seekers so we are better off without them.
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Originally Posted by TrueSoundsYes, do this. FST is an open discussion board. It is more about letting people discuss whatever they want, where other forums like TPS and more about getting their members invites and pleasing tracker staff. They would censor or delete most things that tracker staff complain about, because discussion is secondary to invites.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrollinThunder
FST isn't as invite-centered as other sites, and it holds that niche. It would be very stupid on our part to lose this advantage and become one and the same with the dozens of other invite-moving clones.
Not true. We are talking about File Saring Discussions and Support section. FST will be FST forever, only discussing about one easy move: Trade section off and getting a Recruiters zone. Itīs only my opinion and I respect yours.[/QUOTE]
It was under the assumption that we'd have to make more than just that one compromise to get alot of tracker staff interested.
Easily. I only give invites out to one site at TPS, since I'm not in a position where I'll get in trouble for inviting some troublemakers ;)Quote:
Just my opinion but if you are a lying asshole you can fool everyone and get recruited from said invite forums .
I'd never openly offer invites to other sites there, even where I have unlimited invites. I view them the exact same way. A person can make a request and I'll take into consideration the person, not just the fact that they have buffers and (alleged) e-peen tracker screenshots (easily forged).
I give out invites to close friends in real life that can wrap their heads around private torrenting, and e-friends I've made at various torrent sites. That's about it.
You probably would starting with IP disclosures. And even that probably wouldn't satisfy many folks.Quote:
It was under the assumption that we'd have to make more than just that one compromise to get alot of tracker staff interested.
I don't see the point really anyway. Traders are idiots as far as I'm concerned, but if you somehow managed to kick them off here, they'll just find another forum that'll accept them. It's not like FST is the only place it happens.
Exactly my point. Go elsewhere if you want a quick invite fix. Use FST if you like discussing and then you'll probably get everywhere you want. The latter just takes more time, and is not an option for your average bittard.Quote:
Originally Posted by ca_aok
Or you could just discuss and not have invites in mind.
Crazy, I know :o
Well the thread topic is based on getting invites, so I was stating the options...
+1 exactly my though.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787What he said but I think that there is a lot of hypocrisy to recruiting on invite forums so whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by n00bz0r
If you are a decent person you can get invited from FST recruiters or no.I've only ever asked for and gotten one thing at FST (TVT) but because I've been a good member and transparent in everything I do I've gotten into other places.That's history and honesty.
Requirement takes very little of that into consideration .Person is on tracker A and tracker B .Person has seedbox to buffer accounts and a bit of cash to donate.Person is accepted.
Just my opinion but if you are a lying asshole you can fool everyone and get recruited from said invite forums .
Here the invites to the more elusive sites come hard but people get into places( outside the traders of course) because of who they are rather than some fucking meaningless stats.
Take away invites/trades from FST and for good or bad it's still FST .Take away invites from some other places and there is little appeal I'm sure to them.
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Originally Posted by TrueSounds
The topic is about improve the community, with getting closer staff members.
OP, did you do a search about removing the trade section before you actually posted the idea? If you did, you might have noticed a multi page thread about it...
And if I remember correctly there have been a few recruitment threads by staffers here in the past so don't say it can't happen. How did the people invited do at tracker is a whole different question alltogether.
Why would anyone want to get closer to staff members? How would that improve the community?
Capitulating to someones demands doesn't make you closer to them it makes you their servant.Quote:
Originally Posted by placebocrazyQuote:
Originally Posted by TrueSounds
The topic is about improve the community, with getting closer staff members.
Btw I'm recruiting any women who are looking for a good time.
Although I'm not strictly staff anyplace else there is a staff involved.:naughty:
No I havenīt. I admit it. Tell me the link please.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Martinator
Excuse me, but are other persons that are saying that recruiters can't coexist with FST because the trade section. But I agree with them. We can't have both.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Martinator
giving into staffers' whims in order to get closer to them = community improvement ?
just lol.
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Originally Posted by TrollinThunder
when I say getting closer to staff members, I mean, getting the communities of those trackers in cooperation with FST.
We can't see all this thing related to invites.
Example: someone searches for a rare musical release, doesn't find it in public trackers. Could try here, and trackers communities would tell if they got that one. It will save time to searchers.
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Originally Posted by cinephilia
forget the staff and focus on members. do you doubt members around the p2p communities can improve any project?
That reason is retarded. If you can't find a release on a public tracker, and you ask here, any user of the tracker could tell you. But you'd still need an invite to get the release, so it's useless anyway.
First bad example since you would need to be a member of said tracker and then you could simply do the search yourself and secondly I hope tracker staff have better things to do than filling requests .
This happens pretty frequently for various types of content, and folks usually help out. I'd be willing to up it to a tracker of their choice if I wanted the content myself.Quote:
Example: someone searches for a rare musical release, doesn't find it in public trackers. Could try here, and trackers communities would tell if they got that one. It will save time to searchers.
Several people here are on pretty much any tracker you can think of. Sometimes I feel like I'm on far too many myself. So if you're looking for a cross section of members from most of the prominent trackers, you'll find it here.Quote:
forget the staff and focus on members. do you doubt members around the p2p communities can improve any project?
It's certainly not one of the funnest parts of the job, doesn't actually take that much time though.Quote:
secondly I hope tracker staff have better things to do than filling requests.
Staffers are here quite frequently giving support for their sites and helping with general queries, especially regarding disabled accounts. So there IS staff participation. Just not recruitment threads, which really just end up inviting a bunch of collectors in most cases.
[QUOTE=placebocrazy;3314865]No I havenīt. I admit it. Tell me the link please.
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bit...section-338674Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Martinator
I agree with that too. That's prolly why there are no official recruiting threads nowadays. The old ones didn't go very well.Quote:
Originally Posted by placebocrazy
Those who recruit(admins,mods,wtv), are all around us, @ fst, if they like you, nothing is stopping them, off throwing you an invite.
If you want invites, so easely, join an invite forum, and donate, regulary, to gain haxx to the special invites giveaway thread.
Some invite forums work by donations,rep points, whoever gives out the most invites, does tracker reviews(which is forbidden here),donates a lot of money to get special privileges. Rep points are used to climb the ranks on that forum. Would not want FST to turn into that. I am not the type to hand out invites just to get rep or become a certain rank. If a tracker wanted to recruit members then they could PM possible candidates that they think would be a good addition to their tracker and ask them if they want to join as said above.
Well said, pone. Not many here would want FST to turn into a TPS.Quote:
Originally Posted by pone44
Exactly. I would never wish to have that here, even if staff were completely in agreement with how this site works, and they were all willing to give out invites like candy. Once we allow that, this site turns into an invite community. People tread carefully, watch what they post, and make sure never to post anything negative about the site. I came here for supporting and opposing views, not just supporting. Once "community reps" come here, the integrity of the site is destroyed. Everyone tries to suck up to other people and the real "discussions" that occur would become only a memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueSoundsYes, do this. FST is an open discussion board. It is more about letting people discuss whatever they want, where other forums like TPS and more about getting their members invites and pleasing tracker staff. They would censor or delete most things that tracker staff complain about, because discussion is secondary to invites.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrollinThunder
FST isn't as invite-centered as other sites, and it holds that niche. It would be very stupid on our part to lose this advantage and become one and the same with the dozens of other invite-moving clones.
I can speak from experience and say this isn't necessarily true. I've been a rep for PtN for a while now here, and I get as much shit here as I do roses. I can also say that I have never really felt "sucked up" to here, even when we had a brief excursion of a recruiting thread. I'd also like to think I've at least had some sort of positive impact on discussions here, as well as several other staffers that post here frequently, barring someone trolling them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rart
The motivation to try for that positive impact is why I continue to post here. As far as the OP is concerned, the thought is just impractical for many of the reasons stated previously in this thread already.
1.Trading occurs here, and that is anathema to 99% of trackers.
2. While still being a fairly all encompassing forum for the BT community, it is not beholden to the trackers that are the end goal and will not be to hear staff say it. That's probably for the best tbh, as I have said in the past criticism is always capable of being a tool for improvement of all sites, no matter the tone it's stated with. You don't have to answer a post to gain from it ;) That criticism won't occur at most forums dedicated solely to BT, either because of fear or because staff of those forums are more beholden to the trackers they work with and take measures to prevent any tracker they are friends with from appearing less than stellar.
3.As gets mentioned quite often, this board is not just about BT, and to think that the staff here should invest all their time and effort into this one section of the board is a bit ego maniacal.
As a point of fact, I personally have invited quite a few members of FST to PtN over the course of being a rep here, and the majority are invited behind the scenes and without sycophantic suckuppery. That they are members here should not impact how they are viewed by the sites they are interested in barring that oh so lovely trade section that we all know and love with all our hearts:rolleyes: It'd be like saying "Oh my gawd, he's from Waco Texas so he MUST be insane!!!!" It just doesn't follow imo.
Community reps openly advertise that their high ranked members of the tracker, and are open about the fact that they are actively recruiting. You are doing neither. An average member probably wouldn't realize you're staff at PTN, and you aren't recruiting. Hence, no ass kissing for you :). You could probably easily change that though if you included some nice info in your sig.