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07-21-2010, 12:37 AM
SonsOfLiberty

Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

I've been getting this question and moaning a lot and I do mean a lot

People seem to think that we "add bad NZB's to the index or that I/uploaders add NZB's that are no longer available by there provider...we do not do this, all files are there and it's YOUR PROVIDER NOT OUR NZB'S!

Lets' start here, any Giganews user and any resellers of Giganews (maybe someone can post the other providers, I'm unsure of them at the moment)and any users of NewsDemon (and if resellers to), will ALWAYS DELETE HBO/SHOWTIME SHOWS THE NEXT DAY...maybe even games/movies/music to, unsure of this...

It is a "KNOWN" FACTthat Giganews and NewsDemon will delete, True Blood, Hung, Entourage the very next day and you will get 'article not found' this is not FST's fault but your providers fault, so quit blaming us and blame your provider for deleting them, after all it is copyrighted content, and those 2 companies abide by those taken down notices.

Now this is not a attack on either of these companies what so ever, they just delete a lot of content, so if you like HBO shows, you better have another provider or wait from some nice person to repost it days/weeks later and then get deleted the next day again....also, like I said, any HBO/ShowTime show old/new will be deleted very very quickly, some may slip through the cracks but not many.

Try Astraweb, it's only $11/month, unlimited, free SSL, etc...20 connections, etc....

http://www.news.astraweb.com/specials/kleverig-11.html
07-21-2010, 01:38 AM
hdjunky

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

Newsdemon sucks anyways. If you are going to use that service better off using Ngroups instead.

Do they actually delete them all or do they just delete blocks so it isnt repairable? Would a backup account help give the missing blocks at all?
07-21-2010, 08:49 AM
Hypatia

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

Im not flaming and all but Ive personally checked lots of True Blood releases(ive searched\created nzbs via newsleecher ) recently with nzb download checker. And the funny thing is: they are not deleted completely at all.

In 99% of cases its like this: nzb, small par2 files and probably sfv are deleted, all other rars and PArs are there but lack just 1-2 parts each sometimes even no parts missing at all in some rars meaning its easy to repair in 90%.
I dunno why is that. And i seriously doubt that they have been deleted since it seems to me quite a strange way of cleaning this "mess" =).
To be honest it looks exactly like when i used to upload stuff via astraweb and had severe problems with completion(thats why i switched back to giga)

I still have to find myself in a situation where i cant get TV shows from giganews.

Anyways id advise folks to check "suspicious" NZBS first in nzb download checker so they wont have to go through the painfull process of setting up a queue of stuff to be downloaded, getting articles and then realising that they cant be repaired))
07-21-2010, 09:05 AM
Skiz

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

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Originally Posted by SonsOfLiberty

It is a "KNOWN" FACTthat Giganews and NewsDemon will delete, True Blood, Hung, Entourage the very next day and you will get 'article not found' this is not FST's fault but your providers fault, so quit blaming us and blame your provider for deleting them, after all it is copyrighted content, and those 2 companies abide by those taken down notices.

"Known fact"? Says who?

I watch all three of those shows and have never, not one single time, been unable to complete them normally with Giganews. I also rarely download them within 24 hours of the release so that's not it either. Nearly every time I download one of those shows it is 24+ hours later.

Just last night I downloaded all three episodes of this seasons Hung from NZBs I downloaded here on FST and did not encounter a single problem. I also grabbed the latest True Blood from this past Sunday, again, without any trouble of any kind.

Who is saying they are having problems?
07-21-2010, 10:54 AM
RainmakerRaw

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

I've just spent some time checking, and you have to go back around a month (for 720p hdtv rips) to find DMCA'd releases of this. Even then, as Hypatia says, it's only the first block missing - the rest are fine. Giga tend to follow the absolute letter of the DMCA, which means they remove the article IDs cited in DMCA take down notices, not the other posts related to them. From NZB Download Checker:

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Not ideal, I grant you; but hardly the doom and gloom espoused in the OP and definitely repairable. But yes, since Astra are an EU supplier and not subject to the DMCA per se (though international copyright laws tend to follow a similar suit), it is complete on Astra. Here's another one:

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Again, definitely DMCA'd, but not unfixable. It's hardly Giga's fault, they're just complying with the law. They'd not stay open long if they didn't. ;) But I tend to agree, even though I've been a Giga customer for years, Astra can generally provide the same or better service for half the price. They're just not quite as reliable on the network front - and support is much slower than Giga's. Never the less, I'll likely be jumping over to Astra at the end of my current billing cycle as I'm seeing more of this lately.
07-21-2010, 01:49 PM
mysoogals

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

anybody thought about bad peering between these usenet servers ?
07-21-2010, 04:09 PM
unoriginal

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

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Originally Posted by RainmakerRaw

Not ideal, I grant you; but hardly the doom and gloom espoused in the OP and definitely repairable. But yes, since Astra are an EU supplier and not subject to the DMCA per se (though international copyright laws tend to follow a similar suit), it is complete on Astra. Here's another one:

You know that Astraweb is based in San Jose, CA right? They may have an EU server farm but they are far from being EU based. This, unfortunately, makes them subject to the DMCA. But for some reason they don't seem to follow the takedown notices, or they just don't get them, the way the GN does.

I personally use Usenetnow and have never had any problems grabbing HBO or Showtime programs. Perhaps those that have issues should consider a small block account in addition to their regular provider to help fill in the gaps if they have any.
07-21-2010, 04:48 PM
RainmakerRaw

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

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Originally Posted by unoriginal

You know that Astraweb is based in San Jose, CA right?

Heh, all these years I just figured Astra was EU based. Ah well. :D Plenty of other (definitely EU based) NSPs to look at, but none come close to Astra or Giga in retention. XSNews and Hitnews seem decent enough, just lacking in retention. Hitnews maxes out my 50 meg cable line with a mere 2 or 3 connections - something no other provider has managed to date. They just seriously need to catch up in the retention stakes. A couple of years ago 100-200 days retention on binaries was a big deal, but now? Not so much. :)
07-21-2010, 06:34 PM
jaymmmmmm

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

I have noticed over the last few weeks things being removed on astraweb. Like stuff 200 days old which were always there before now have suddendly been removed due to DMCA and seems to be occurring with a lot more now. I guess astraweb have definatly stop dodging/started to comply with DMCA takedown requests now. You won't notice so much if your just a TV show guy but popular games and movies are missing on astra now. And just to make clear no where near and close to the amount of content that gets removed on giganews and highwinds servers but defiantly a noticeable amount now. People who say they don't notice them are the ones who download stuff when it first comes out. Try a popular game or movie over 20 days and chances are it's removed on giganews and highwinds servers and possibly even astraweb now unfortunately.

It was only a matter of time before it happened but sad to see usenet becoming like this now, guess more and more people will start switching to unheard of (now at least) dutch and other usenet providers who have their own servers.
07-21-2010, 06:54 PM
zot

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainmakerRaw

Quote:

Originally Posted by unoriginal

You know that Astraweb is based in San Jose, CA right?

Heh, all these years I just figured Astra was EU based. Ah well. :D

Astraweb's home office is in Singapore, and their server farms are located in San Diego and Amsterdam. I think the company is also still registered in Singapore, although this could easily change. (Usenet-news.net, owned by a Swede, has changed its official ("on paper") country of domicile several times already)

I can understand the confusion though. It's been a long time since Astraweb displayed their mailing address on the website. Although not operating under US DMCA law, Singapore is no pushover when it comes to copyright enforcement. The country has often been described as a police state with very tough laws in general, and I seem to recall one or two people even going to jail for ordinary file sharing.
07-21-2010, 07:31 PM
Hypatia

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

This provider, that provider...

Posters should just stop posting stuff using full titles
At least for the scene releases.
There are numerous sites\IRC channels and such like where u can learn what "gtor720p-CoolGroup" means and in time with a bit of experience u wont need to go there at all, trust me
+ there are NFOs available.

As for nonscene stuff then for instance movies can be named with IMDB number+some info like
tt1379182.2009.720p.BluRay.x264-FuckURIAA
+ NFO included

It might seem kinda extreme but in fact its not.
07-21-2010, 07:44 PM
hdjunky

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

Quote:

Originally Posted by unoriginal

I personally use Usenetnow and have never had any problems grabbing HBO or Showtime programs. Perhaps those that have issues should consider a small block account in addition to their regular provider to help fill in the gaps if they have any.

+1 Usenetnow has block accounts at blocknews for some cheap little insurance and you just throw the settings in your newsreader as a backup and let your newsreader do its thing. or you can just switch away completely from highwindy.
07-21-2010, 10:07 PM
SonsOfLiberty

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hypatia

This provider, that provider...

Posters should just stop posting stuff using full titles
At least for the scene releases.
There are numerous sites\IRC channels and such like where u can learn what "gtor720p-CoolGroup" means and in time with a bit of experience u wont need to go there at all, trust me
+ there are NFOs available.

As for nonscene stuff then for instance movies can be named with IMDB number+some info like
tt1379182.2009.720p.BluRay.x264-FuckURIAA
+ NFO included

It might seem kinda extreme but in fact its not.

We don't do that, most movies and TV and games are bot posted not HUMAN posted.

And yes fine what ever so they don't deleted everyone, but they do get removed, not the whole thing, but just enough parts not to repair.

Just give it time you will get those errors :)

And yes it is a fact because we use ND and GN for posting/grabbing the NFO's during NZB posting and guess what I get "article not found" which means they've been deleted.

There were many posts about it HBO shows being deleted else where, and I've never EVER had one single article missing from Astraweb that I've downlaoded, the 200 days stuff is when Astraweb had completeion problems where uploads didn't complete and became broken. Most of that stuff is fixed now or has bee reposted....

The worst part is how can people pay an extra $20-30 more a month for Giganews....

Skiz yes it's a known fact, we get complaints in the IRC channel all the time about True Blood and HBO shows being deleted EP01-03 are un completelable both by users here and users at NZBSRUS, hence the many repostings of it.

Try downloading those HBO shows in 2 weeks or so, some aren't 24 hours, this was only an example, because it's been done and has happened.

For example Deadwood is just 100 days old and has been deleted from the servers...
07-22-2010, 03:59 AM
Skiz

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonsOfLiberty

Skiz yes it's a known fact, we get complaints in the IRC channel all the time about True Blood and HBO shows being deleted EP01-03 are un completelable both by users here and users at NZBSRUS, hence the many repostings of it.

Try downloading those HBO shows in 2 weeks or so, some aren't 24 hours, this was only an example, because it's been done and has happened.

For example Deadwood is just 100 days old and has been deleted from the servers...

People may be complaining about it, but your original post is very deceiving. I'm not finding any trouble at all right now finding the episodes that you are talking about, even at the proper release dates.

For example - http://www.nzbindex.nl/search/?q=tru...espam=1&more=0

As far as I can tell, those folks are full of it.
07-22-2010, 06:20 AM
Hypatia

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

Skiz

+1

Btw ive just tested Deadwood that u mentioned(~100days ago)

1)97 days ago, CtrlHD, 720p -all parts are in place, even small par2's

2)~92 days ago, dvdrips, small par2 isnt there(sometimes its available), all other rar and pars can be downloaded except for just 1 part in every rar\par2.-> can be repaired

3)deadwood , 46 days ago, 720p. Same deal. Smll par2's are absent, every rar\par2 lacks 1 part. Easy to repair

PS i get all articles(nzbs) from SUpersearch(newsleecher)
07-22-2010, 01:09 PM
RainmakerRaw

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hypatia

Btw ive just tested Deadwood that u mentioned(~100days ago)

2)~92 days ago, dvdrips, small par2 isnt there(sometimes its available), all other rar and pars can be downloaded except for just 1 part in every rar\par2.-> can be repaired

3)deadwood , 46 days ago, 720p. Same deal. Smll par2's are absent, every rar\par2 lacks 1 part. Easy to repair

Then those two, despite the ability to repair, have been DMCA'd. As I said (in agreement with you) earlier though, they are at least repairable so not the end of the world.

Quote:

PS i get all articles(nzbs) from SUpersearch(newsleecher)

But you would; as SuperSearch isn't reliant on your NSP. Finding all articles complete on SS, but missing the first blocks on Giganews, simply confirms the fact that they're complete on Usenet but DMCA'd on Giga... Or did I misunderstand you? :)
07-22-2010, 02:13 PM
Hypatia

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

Quote:

Or did I misunderstand you?

Nope. We understood each other perfectly well =)
I justed wanted to share all the information on the subject i had so no question would be asked considering the details of the test

PS Kinda stupid way to DMCA stuff posted on usenet, but , hey, im not complaining at all lol
Wish they keep doing it this way =))
07-22-2010, 03:10 PM
nntpjunkie

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonsOfLiberty

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hypatia

This provider, that provider...

Posters should just stop posting stuff using full titles
At least for the scene releases.
There are numerous sites\IRC channels and such like where u can learn what "gtor720p-CoolGroup" means and in time with a bit of experience u wont need to go there at all, trust me
+ there are NFOs available.

As for nonscene stuff then for instance movies can be named with IMDB number+some info like
tt1379182.2009.720p.BluRay.x264-FuckURIAA
+ NFO included

It might seem kinda extreme but in fact its not.

We don't do that, most movies and TV and games are bot posted not HUMAN posted.

And yes fine what ever so they don't deleted everyone, but they do get removed, not the whole thing, but just enough parts not to repair.

Just give it time you will get those errors :)

And yes it is a fact because we use ND and GN for posting/grabbing the NFO's during NZB posting and guess what I get "article not found" which means they've been deleted.

There were many posts about it HBO shows being deleted else where, and I've never EVER had one single article missing from Astraweb that I've downlaoded, the 200 days stuff is when Astraweb had completeion problems where uploads didn't complete and became broken. Most of that stuff is fixed now or has bee reposted....

The worst part is how can people pay an extra $20-30 more a month for Giganews....

Skiz yes it's a known fact, we get complaints in the IRC channel all the time about True Blood and HBO shows being deleted EP01-03 are un completelable both by users here and users at NZBSRUS, hence the many repostings of it.

Try downloading those HBO shows in 2 weeks or so, some aren't 24 hours, this was only an example, because it's been done and has happened.

For example Deadwood is just 100 days old and has been deleted from the servers...

Serious question here...why do some swear by Giganews - Yes the service is solid but it is dammed expensive. I was a with them for a couple months (completion issues) but left when I tried Astraweb w/ newshosting for filler account - all still cheaper than GN - what is the big mystery here?
07-22-2010, 04:22 PM
Skiz

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

Quote:

Originally Posted by nntpjunkie

Serious question here...why do some swear by Giganews - Yes the service is solid but it is dammed expensive. I was a with them for a couple months (completion issues) but left when I tried Astraweb w/ newshosting for filler account - all still cheaper than GN - what is the big mystery here?

No mystery at all to me; they're a superb service. They have the highest retention, exceptionally fast customer service (the one time I needed it).

Yes, they're more expensive but with the constant complaints I hear on this board about poor Astraweb completion rates, and routine postings of how people have left them b/c it was so bad, I'm fine paying a few dollars more for the peace of mind that everything I download is going to complete. That includes HBO shows, contrary to what SOL has posted. That first post is so incorrect and deceiving....
07-22-2010, 07:53 PM
RainmakerRaw

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

Indeed. I've been trying out Astra again this month (I left a year or so ago after the problems started) and although they've been OK overall they've given me enough issues to keep me paying $19.99 to Giga for unlimited use and free SSL. For example, just to redress the balance, I just ran a nice 1080p NZB through NZB Download Checker, and although it's 100% complete on Giganews, Astra has quite a bit of it missing (almost 1% damaged). Giga's support answers tickets within 10 minutes usually, whereas the last three or four times I've sent tickets to Astra (this week included), they've taken between 2 and 5 DAYS to reply. I last posted Astra and Giga tickets (at the same time) on Tuesday... Giga replied 5 mins later. Astra still haven't gotten back to me. THAT is what Giga users pay for, imho.
07-23-2010, 03:12 AM
unoriginal

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

Quote:

Originally Posted by zot

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainmakerRaw

Heh, all these years I just figured Astra was EU based. Ah well. :D

Astraweb's home office is in Singapore, and their server farms are located in San Diego and Amsterdam. I think the company is also still registered in Singapore, although this could easily change. (Usenet-news.net, owned by a Swede, has changed its official ("on paper") country of domicile several times already)

I can understand the confusion though. It's been a long time since Astraweb displayed their mailing address on the website. Although not operating under US DMCA law, Singapore is no pushover when it comes to copyright enforcement. The country has often been described as a police state with very tough laws in general, and I seem to recall one or two people even going to jail for ordinary file sharing.

Didn't know that Astraweb was based in Singapore and I guess this shows it: http://www.who.is/domain_archive-net/astraweb.net/

But their US server farm is definitely in San Jose as a traceroute shows:

Quote:

7ae-2-2.ebr3.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.132.9)
ae-73-73.csw2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.134.230)
ae-2-79.edge8.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.68.18.84)
SEARCHTECH.edge8.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.53.30.1420
unknown.sj.astraweb.com (216.151.153.70)
07-23-2010, 05:14 PM
c0ld

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainmakerRaw

Giga's support answers tickets within 10 minutes usually, whereas the last three or four times I've sent tickets to Astra (this week included), they've taken between 2 and 5 DAYS to reply. I last posted Astra and Giga tickets (at the same time) on Tuesday... Giga replied 5 mins later. Astra still haven't gotten back to me.

It's ppl like you that drive up prices for the rest of us. Usenet isn't complicated, stop bothering the company with pointless support calls. The more money they spend dealing with newbs that needing constant hand holding, the less money they have for the actual service. Please stick with Giganews.
07-23-2010, 05:47 PM
RainmakerRaw

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

Quote:

Originally Posted by c0ld

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainmakerRaw

Giga's support answers tickets within 10 minutes usually, whereas the last three or four times I've sent tickets to Astra (this week included), they've taken between 2 and 5 DAYS to reply. I last posted Astra and Giga tickets (at the same time) on Tuesday... Giga replied 5 mins later. Astra still haven't gotten back to me.

It's ppl like you that drive up prices for the rest of us. Usenet isn't complicated, stop bothering the company with pointless support calls. The more money they spend dealing with newbs that needing constant hand holding, the less money they have for the actual service. Please stick with Giganews.

LOL How very presumptuous of you. I've been using Usenet for years; my support tickets were very much technically related and necessary. In Astra's case, they were barely managing to provide me with 5% of my line's bandwidth. After much to-and-fro their main man replied to confirm the routing between their backend and my ISP had been turned off, and they were working to restore it. In Giga's case, I was asking whether they used signed SSL certificates or self-signed ones, given that my ISP is now using DPI on an anti-file-sharing drive. Self-signed certs make DPI a trivial process, whereas authenticated ones from a Trusted Authority don't. Usenet isn't complicated, I agree. But providing a good service apparently is, because it's in short supply. I don't see how asking relevant questions (for... let me think... only the second time in the last six or so years?) is driving your prices up.

Before you re-quote me as saying "the last three of four times I've sent tickets to Astra", they were on the same billing related issue whereby Astra failed to re-bill me, cut my service, and didn't reply to my tickets for four and five days at a time. Eventually I'd been without proper Usenet access for a fortnight, which is when I migrated to Giga. So yes, I'll be sticking with Giga for now and so long as they're not taking almost a week to reply to any tickets I have genuine need to send, I'll keep paying my $19.99.

You can have your soap box back now.
07-23-2010, 05:50 PM
c0ld

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainmakerRaw

they were on the same billing related issue whereby Astra failed to re-bill me, cut my service, and didn't reply to my tickets for four and five days at a time. Eventually I'd been without proper Usenet access for a fortnight, which is when I migrated to Giga.

Took you long enough to get the hint. Please don't come back.
07-23-2010, 05:52 PM
RainmakerRaw

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

Quote:

Originally Posted by c0ld

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainmakerRaw

they were on the same billing related issue whereby Astra failed to re-bill me, cut my service, and didn't reply to my tickets for four and five days at a time. Eventually I'd been without proper Usenet access for a fortnight, which is when I migrated to Giga.

Took you long enough to get the hint. Please don't come back.

LOL Were you born a plank or are you just having a bad day? I see no particular reason why you'd decide to be hostile towards me for the sake of it. Or are you simply part of the Astraweb Does No Wrong fanclub? I've had written apologies from Astra's owner acknowledging the issues I've had with them, I don't see why he/they need you to be all gung ho on their behalf.
07-23-2010, 05:57 PM
c0ld

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainmakerRaw

I see no particular reason why you'd decide to be hostile towards me for the sake of it.

Welcome to the Internet.

Quote:

I've had written apologies from Astra's owner

Haha, classic.

Hey guise I had a letter from insurance company trying to sell me policy. Normally I wouldn't bother, but this was signed by the President of the company!!1 I am so special to them.
07-23-2010, 06:05 PM
Skiz

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

Quote:

Originally Posted by c0ld

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainmakerRaw

they were on the same billing related issue whereby Astra failed to re-bill me, cut my service, and didn't reply to my tickets for four and five days at a time. Eventually I'd been without proper Usenet access for a fortnight, which is when I migrated to Giga.

Took you long enough to get the hint. Please don't come back.

:glag:

Take a note here kids:

Never admit you're wrong. If in a proper discussion, cut/paste and answer only the very weakest part of your "opponent's" arguments, thus "pwning" him/her.

@RainmakerRaw - You'd be doing yourself a favor to ignore her like most of the board does. She's a twat with sand in her twat.
07-23-2010, 06:13 PM
c0ld

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

Oh look, Skiz is here to whiteknight a fellow Giganews mug, again. RainmakerRaw probably just made a couple of support tickets here to ask for help.
07-23-2010, 06:17 PM
RainmakerRaw

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

LOL I've better things to do with my day than shoot the breeze with someone mid-PMS just looking to moan. This might be 'teh internetz' but I'm afraid I left the under 16s pissing contests behind a couple of decades ago. Enjoy the rest of your day, I know I will. Toodle pip. :D
07-23-2010, 07:43 PM
jaymmmmmm

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

This is getting as tedious as Xbox 360 vs PS3 debates.

Yes, astraweb is almost half the price of giganews but giganews does have much better customer service and in general is much more reliable as a service than astraweb, is that worth paying a extra $9 a month for that? Not in my opinion but that's up to the user to decide if it's worth that to them. Astraweb fanboys who call giganews users losers or whatever for paying what they pay for giganews are sad, how does it effect you? It doesn't one bit, it's their money, get over it. This is from someone who uses astraweb.
07-23-2010, 09:41 PM
c0ld

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaymmmmmm

This is getting as tedious as Xbox 360 vs PS3 debates.

Yes, astraweb is almost half the price of giganews but giganews does have much better customer service and in general is much more reliable as a service than astraweb, is that worth paying a extra $9 a month for that? Not in my opinion but that's up to the user to decide if it's worth that to them. Astraweb fanboys who call giganews users losers or whatever for paying what they pay for giganews are sad, how does it effect you? It doesn't one bit, it's their money, get over it. This is from someone who uses astraweb.

Thanks for your input. Well done.
07-23-2010, 10:08 PM
jaymmmmmm

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

Sorry, I couldn't quite keep it up there with your high standard of input with "giganews mugs"
07-23-2010, 11:20 PM
reg036

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

I can say from personal use that I have been finding a lot more incompletes on Giganews recently then I ever have, I have been using them for 8 years as they were the longest retention for a long time and a solid company.

http://filesharingtalk.com/threads/4...=bounty+hunter

Here is a file that has been pulled on Giganews but is available on Blocknews. I've been using my backup more and more lately so dunno, might be a time for a change.
07-24-2010, 01:06 AM
mesaman

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

I'm having no trouble downloading that post from Giganews. Why do you think it was pulled?

Don't forget that the Giganews value plans (Pearl & Jade) have only 30 days retention.
07-24-2010, 01:23 AM
reg036

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

I've pulled 600+ day old posts from them so no value plan here but I could not get that post, it would start on PARs and then the rest of it would disapear real quick but had no prob on blocknews so Dunno, I'm SSL'd, Fios as service, so ????
07-24-2010, 03:34 AM
unclemilty74

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

I personally can't understand all the hatin' on AstraWeb. I started with a Giganews account several years ago and paid $15-$25 per month at varying points. Then I found Astraweb's annual deal at $96 - that's $8/month!! Unlimited.... and I don't have Comcast so I can download 24/7 without getting ISP interference. I have just renewed for my 2nd year with Astraweb and have only had one outage by them, and it lasted less than a day. I have also no had any customer service issues - the only time I emailed, I got immediate response (i.e. within 24 hours). I'm not knocking Giganews either, because they also had good service response, but there were more outages with them. I've also never experience issues of Tv shows being deleted, but I didn't d/l TV shows back with Astraweb. I think they both have excellent retention of almost 2 years. I just pulled some stuff over 700 days as advertised through their web page.

But, to each his own.
07-24-2010, 04:34 AM
Skiz

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

Quote:

Originally Posted by reg036

I can say from personal use that I have been finding a lot more incompletes on Giganews recently then I ever have, I have been using them for 8 years as they were the longest retention for a long time and a solid company.

http://filesharingtalk.com/threads/4...=bounty+hunter

Here is a file that has been pulled on Giganews but is available on Blocknews. I've been using my backup more and more lately so dunno, might be a time for a change.

"Pulled"?

I just downloaded that. With Giganews. In it's entirety. It downloaded and unpacked with no errors.

I don't see the problem.
07-24-2010, 04:16 PM
MrMoneybags

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Does the included VPN justify the $30/month Diamond plan though? I've never used VyperVPN but I hear decent VPNs do wonders when just browsing the internet in general. Giganews is apparently also offering this new Usenet browser thing, though I think that's just a dinky little feature that no one would really use. But I just cancelled my NewsDemon plan (I've had issues where ~400 day old files were very broken and I've had the issue this post is referring to many a time and it's gotten to the point where I just want to cancel) and I'll have no service on July 29th or 30th and I would like some advice. Are VPNs really worth it? If they are, is VyperVPN any good? If I were to go to Astraweb, what VPN would you recommend (if at all) that is relatively inexpensive but high quality? I'd appreciate any answers and help :-)

This is coming from a relatively n00bish person, but I do understand the basics of Usenet.
07-24-2010, 04:30 PM
c0ld

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMoneybags

I hear decent VPNs do wonders when just browsing the internet in general.

You herd wrong then, they just hide your traffic, but come with an overhead.

Quote:

what VPN would you recommend (if at all) that is relatively inexpensive but high quality?

Any? They only cost a few dollars. Get one close to you if you want speed, or in another countries if you want some minor increase in protection from prosecution. Relakks? Hell, get your own virtual server and set up your own vpn, less chance of being blocked then.
07-24-2010, 06:23 PM
MrMoneybags

Re: Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

Quote:

Originally Posted by c0ld

You herd wrong then, they just hide your traffic, but come with an overhead.

That's what I mean. I've used proxies that literally turn my high speed cable internet into barely broadband.

Quote:

what VPN would you recommend (if at all) that is relatively inexpensive but high quality?

Any? They only cost a few dollars. Get one close to you if you want speed, or in another countries if you want some minor increase in protection from prosecution. Relakks? Hell, get your own virtual server and set up your own vpn, less chance of being blocked then.

What service would you recommend for multi-national access? I do travel a lot, sometimes internationally, so I would like USA VPN, but I would also like international servers for security reasons. Not only that but I hear you can't get some things in the USA.

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