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So far so good, that 706d retention was no bullshit :O
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So far so good, that 706d retention was no bullshit :O
Yes, it's awesome !
From what I can see, every other NSP has given up (except for Giganews of course) and won't go over 600d.
Well, Blocknews/Usenetnow is also around the 700 day mark and growing. Maybe it's time for all those Highwinds resellers stuck at 600 days to consider jumping ship.
There's no 'of course' about it. Giganews have been caught falling short of their claims in the past. They went through a period of putting 'increasing to xxx days retention' when in fact they were far short.Quote:
Originally Posted by chakara
Giganews website screamed in big red print "240 days retention" which they did reach, but during Sept2008-Jan2009 they fell far short, as little as 190 days, and despite all the complaints of false advertising, they never corrected the posted retention they were promising. That is, until their retention eventually grew to 241 days, and ever since that day their actual retention has been correct and updated daily. (funny how honesty only works one way!)
So I suppose the question is are they still accurate? Let's see a 716d post complete on GN.
Big thrill! I just downloaded a 713 day old NZB from usenetnow/blocknews and although it needed a slight repair, it was fine. Plus they are cheaper http://www.usenetnow.net/ngr.html All this high retention is great so everyone can show off there e-peens I guess. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by iLOVENZB
Was it complete when it finished and you need to upgrade Sabnzbd, the latest version 0.5.3 :)
And $10.19/mo through this link: http://usenetnow.net/woot.html
Yes, it finished completed. I've been meaning to upgrade but haven't had the time.
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Astraweb:Quote:
Originally Posted by hdjunky
710d711d
Blocknews: 713d
Giganews: ???
I think the giganews fanboys are a bit shy.
I meant Giganews is in this high retention course. I never used them so I could not possibly comment on actual retention :)
Isn't Blocknews a Giganews reseller ?
AW is $8 a month if you buy a whole year.Quote:
Originally Posted by unoriginal
That's supernews, who have a restricted retention.Quote:
Originally Posted by chakara
I just luv that giganews bashing by astraweb fanboysQuote:
Astraweb: 710d 711d
Blocknews: 713d
Giganews: ???
I think the giganews fanboys are a bit shy.
Advertised: 717 days
715 days ago: CHECK
716 days ago:CHECK
717 days ago: CHECK
717 days 22 h ago: (The.Engagement.2006.PROPER.DVDRip.XviD-VoMiT): CHECK
719 days ago(the.samurai.hdtv.xvid-fqm): CHECK
And here we go with incompletes, finally:
720 days ago(passage.ws.pdtv.xvid-remax):
Parts checked: 2117
Undownloadable parts: 21
0,99% of the data can't be downloaded!
Suck it up :D
PS i dont say that ALL stuff posted 717 + days ago is available but what i tested was.(some EFnet releases)
Well apparently that beats binsearch's retention too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hypatia
Retention is not the problem with binsearch, at least for me.Quote:
binsearch
Unfortunately ive found out that via binsearch one cant find posts which can be found using others nzb index sites within retention range.
Mostly HBO TV series.I suspect take down requests.
As for these tests i made i used superseach to create nzbs.
And i repeat once more its not 100% guarantee that everything beyond 717 days can be downloaded. Same as i guess with all other newsproviders.
Hypatia: Are you using search in the other groups?
The extra retention on giganews costs about $2 per day per month.. interesting. ;)
Yep. Both usual search and "in the other groups".Quote:
Are you using search in the other groups?
:))Quote:
The extra retention on giganews costs about $2 per day per month
Well, these 5-6 days dont count for me that much so im not gonna renew my subscription to giga this time since Astraweb as it seems has managed to deal with their completion issues they had(back then i renewed my giga subscription). If they fuck up again ill just switch back to giga )
I can't find those on any usenet search sites, AW & Giganews have better retention than Binsearch & co ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hypatia
Scratch that! I raise you your 713 days to 719.4 days. I just downloaded from the divx group on Usenetnow and although some parts had a missing block or two, it was fully repairable. Maybe not everything is available back that far thogh. Good enough for me!Quote:
Originally Posted by c0ld
I dont need Giganews reliability or 5-10 minute response times especially for the price they charge.
I hate Astraweb based on principle. Since I dont need 5-10 minute response times it doesnt mean I need 1-2 day response times either. They also tend to keep people in the dark when shit hits the fan...Anyone remember back in january?! :O How about a few years ago when they had a meltdown?
I pay about $2.75 a month with blocknews gimme a cookie! My connection is quite slow though so that limits what i can do and also limits my cost.Quote:
Originally Posted by chakara
I dunno if it is still offered but Usenetnow had $48 every 6 months awhile ago but i can't remember where it was. Personally i would rather have use of my money than tieing it up with anyone for a year.
I was just saying ... don't get your panties in a twist.
And btw, comparing block accounts and illimited accounts makes little sense.
I found two of these on http://nzbs.org, but it did not list "the.samurai.hdtv.xvid-fqm."Quote:
Originally Posted by chakaraI can't find those on any usenet search sites, AW & Giganews have better retention than Binsearch & co ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hypatia
I am having problems downloading this file (The.Story.of.India.2007.BluRay.720p.DT S.x264-HDxT]-[002/265] "Episode.1-Beginnings. Episode 5 is incomplete to)
with Astraweb I downloaded this same file a few weeks a go now I can't download the same file to many broken incomplete
its only 387 days old I don't get it why was it ok a few weeks ago and now can't even fix it with the pars ?
Is anybody else having problems with completion on Astra? I loved Astraweb (till now) over 700 days retention is great but if the completion is going to suffer then I don't know?
No point in getting off topic....but how so? Even a once off block account I can still break the cost down to a monthly cost. If it takes me 3 months to use a 200 gig account i am paying 7 dollars a month for usenet...6 months, 3.50. I download stuff I want and will actually use in the short term. My days of downloading anything and everything that I THINK I may use but never get around to is done. I got tired of giggling like a school girl while trying to impress my friends with my big disks! :D (they honestly didnt care either)Quote:
Originally Posted by chakara
I will admit sometimes there is stuff I need that is quite large so I will just spend the 5 bucks for a week long unlimited account ad download as much as i can and i still come out ahead.
Let's compute the other way around : I download 200GB a month for 8 bucks so it's cheaper than getting a 200GB block account every month. See how it doesn't make sense ?
Those types of accounts are not intended for the same kind of downloaders, hence the little sense.
I think it's pretty straightforward.
Yeah, but blocknews = usenetnow = sub based, so it's a bit pointless to quibble over it.
I do not understand what you mean, do you mean subscription based? Usenetnow is kind of but blocknews is not. Sorry if I misunderstood you.Quote:
Originally Posted by c0ld
As far as retention is concerned I mean.
At least one of the things folks here are forgetting in this discussion, is that many places on this planet, it's really not internet 'speed' that's the limitation anymore, but 'throughput' i.e., caps.
In the U.S., almost all the 'unlimited' all you can eat connections, even though many were low speed, have now transitioned to limited use 'capped' service, generally hovering around 250GB/Month, but some as low as 5GB/Month.
My older, slow (3Mb/s) DSL, was unlimited. Running 24/7 I could transfer upwards of 750GB/Month. Then they got sold, and the new 'cap' on that is now 5GB/month. Exceed that, and you get fined.
The only other provider limits their consumer accounts at 250GB/Month, with a speed of 10Mb/s. But if my math is correct, that means that one can 'use up' their monthly allowance in less than 3 days.
So, unless the 'block' accounts get below the $11/month, they really don't make much sense except for 'fills' use.
5GB a month ? Jeez !
Capped connections don't exist over here, let's hope it stays that way.
1. No, Usenetnow/Blocknews resell from a company called Readnews.Quote:
Originally Posted by chakaraI meant Giganews is in this high retention course. I never used them so I could not possibly comment on actual retention :)
Isn't Blocknews a Giganews reseller ?
AW is $8 a month if you buy a whole year.Quote:
Originally Posted by unoriginal
2. $2/mo won't break me and I hate the idea of such a long term commitment. I like the idea of being able to move to another company if for some reason the one I'm using suddenly goes into the toilet.
I needed more than one backup server.
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Surprisingly, Blocknews didn't have the 6 missing articles either.
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They were filled in by Usenet-news.net (Highwinds).
I've also been using Astraweb also but I virtually never run across an incomplete file - probably because I have Astraweb set up using Blocknews and Usenet-News as automatic fill servers. I know I keep repeating myself here, but a one-time purchase of a $3 gigblock at Blocknews or Usenet-news, or other "buy once/use forever" block provider will buy you a lifetime of insurance that you'll never again run into a file that won't complete.Quote:
Originally Posted by cubbyche
With fill-servers properly set up, even having to par-fix a file is extremely rare, as most everything is always 100% complete (better than Giganews at a fraction of the price) A number of newsreaders even let you set up a backup server to a backup server, in case the first two combined don't do it.
also see http://filesharingtalk.com/threads/4...w-lower-prices!
@mesaman - what newsreader do you use? Since you have three usenet provider accounts, have you tried setting up your newsreader using all three servers to automatically fill in missing articles?
I have more than 3 servers and they're all prioritized for backup. I used BNR2 to test an incomplete file for cubbyche.
Excellent! And I was beginning to think that maybe I was kind of strange to be using three daisy-chained providers. I never realized that BNR2 supported backup servers, I've not used it in several years.Quote:
Originally Posted by mesaman
That's the filename, search for Samurai-Miyamoto.Musashi.HDTV.XviD-FQM :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Radon0rI found two of these on http://nzbs.org, but it did not list "the.samurai.hdtv.xvid-fqm."Quote:
Originally Posted by chakara
Using the Dark Knight NZB posted above... 25 parts missing on Astraweb, only 1 part missing on Giganews.Quote:
Originally Posted by c0ld
Code:NZB file: C:\Users\user\Desktop\The.Dark.Knight.2008.Cam.LD.XviD-KingBen.English.Incl.OST.nzb
Files found: 42
Message-ID's required: 2414
Message-ID's found: 2414
Message-ID's missing from the NZB: 0 (0%)
The files were posted 712 day(s) ago.
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Initializing newsserver: Astraweb
Article not found: [email protected]
Article not found: [email protected]
Article not found: [email protected]
Article not found: [email protected]
Article not found: [email protected]
Article not found: [email protected]
Article not found: [email protected]
Article not found: [email protected]
Article not found: [email protected]
Article not found: [email protected]
Article not found: [email protected]
Article not found: [email protected]
Article not found: [email protected]
Article not found: [email protected]
Article not found: [email protected]
Article not found: [email protected]
Article not found: [email protected]
Article not found: [email protected]
Article not found: [email protected]
Article not found: [email protected]
Article not found: [email protected]
Article not found: [email protected]
Article not found: [email protected]
Article not found: [email protected]
Article not found: [email protected]
Terminating newsserver: Astraweb
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Parts checked: 2414
Undownloadable parts: 25
1.04% of the data can't be downloaded!
Random 718 day old NZB, generated at nzbclub.com - 100% complete on Giga:Code:NZB file: C:\Users\user\Desktop\The.Dark.Knight.2008.Cam.LD.XviD-KingBen.English.Incl.OST.nzb
Files found: 42
Message-ID's required: 2414
Message-ID's found: 2414
Message-ID's missing from the NZB: 0 (0%)
The files were posted 712 day(s) ago.
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Initializing newsserver: Giganews
Article not found: [email protected]
Terminating newsserver: Giganews
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Parts checked: 2414
Undownloadable parts: 1
0.04% of the data can't be downloaded!
Pretty meaningless though; it doesn't really prove anything.Code:NZB file: C:\Users\user\Desktop\AC ICM v1 Aldo Colombini Impromptu Card Magic Vol 1.nzb
Files found: 23
Message-ID's required: 2220
Message-ID's found: 2220
Message-ID's missing from the NZB: 0 (0%)
The files were posted 718 day(s) ago.
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Initializing newsserver: Giganews
Terminating newsserver: Giganews
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Parts checked: 2220
Undownloadable parts: 0
All OK!
Great Idea zot I think should get a back up server just in case Blocknews or Usenet-news, looks like a very good alternative
just looking into Usent-news.net Lifetime Block download accountsQuote:
Originally Posted by mesaman
Block size
Cost/block
(Payable in USD, EUR or GBP) 2 GB $ 2.00 1.00 USD/GB 5 GB $ 3.00 0.60 USD/GB 10 GB $ 5.00 0.50 USD/GB 20 GB $ 8.00 0.40 USD/GB 30 GB $ 10.00 0.33 USD/GBnot bad...
Quote:
Originally Posted by cubbyche
just looking into Usent-news.net Lifetime Block download accountsQuote:
Originally Posted by mesaman
Block size
Cost/block
(Payable in USD, EUR or GBP) 2 GB $ 2.00 1.00 USD/GB 5 GB $ 3.00 0.60 USD/GB 10 GB $ 5.00 0.50 USD/GB 20 GB $ 8.00 0.40 USD/GB 30 GB $ 10.00 0.33 USD/GBnot bad...
You shouldnt overlook blocknews just for that one instance. That is a rare exceptioon i think. Also look at this thread http://filesharingtalk.com/threads/4...rs-Please-Read That has to do with usenet-news cause they sell highwinds as well. Blocknews also has 100 days more retention and cheaper prices. I used to use usenet news they are a good company but there downfall is highwinds. With a block account as a backup server i would think you would at least want comparable retention to your main server.