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Be careful those using btracs forums, ur passwords are not encrypted on database, as u can see easy if u try "password recover".
staff there can see your password, and if u have bad luck to use same on trackers, say goodbye.
i can't post more info here, but i know some people lost accounts because staff there can't be trusted.
so, if u use there same pass as at trackers, change trackers pass IMMEDIATELY.
stay away from btracs.
Common sense dictates when you become a part of a shady organization, amp up yer paranoia and put 'em tinfoil hats on for 'just in case' situations.
Some people learn it the hard way. :P
It's their common purpose and mostly small tracker. Their main motive is for hijacking the coming user's a/c, to gain acess to user's other tracker's private data.
Never use the same password on more than one site, simple. BTRACS isn't the only place that stores passes as plaintext.
I remember that a guy here his name was Toti994 he made an topic saied ( BTRACS STAFF is SCAMMERS ) I remeber this topic very good when btracs staff scammed this guy and stoled all his accounts and he was warnning member here from dealing with them but staff deleted his topic and after thatn he banned from here, from this day I stopped all my trade in BTRACS .
and now all know that Btracs is really scammeres
You make it sound like his disabling - he was never banned - was somehow linked to his Btracs allegations.Quote:
Originally Posted by pair20002000
Actually he was disabled for selling invites so in his case sort of kettle/black.:mellow:
Btw not saying they(BTracs staff) aren't shady but how is it that Hombre ( or anyone else) creating just another similar thread with again zero solid evidence offered ...."proof "?
The guy 'Slevin' that runs BTRACS is part of the scheme. He's part of most of the top trackers and will narc on you. The guy is a real scumbag as with most ops on their forums. I would avoid BTRACS at all cost. They will scam your accounts then report you to other trackers for the all mighty global ban list. I'm sharing this info from the scene. I've seen Slevin actions towards others that stand in BTRACS way. He's a two-faced torrent user that can't be trusted. I wouldn't be surprised if he's working for a film studio collecting IPs.
You mean a community openly full of sellers, scammers, and traders might be run by shady people? OH FUCK NO!
Exactly, please provide some proof of this. Unlike this community most of the BTRACS members are young and inexperienced torrenters, who do not possess high level accounts. As a respected member of BTRACS I have several trustworthy moderator friends over there and i can assure you they don't have any interest in hacking other peoples accounts for most already have extensive tracker collections. Check out the accounts listed by their mods in the Tracker Review section and then check the rest of the site out including the Request section. Bottom line the mods have nicer trackers than almost all the members.
I honestly didn't even know what BTracs was.I thought it was a music site or something:idunno:Quote:
Originally Posted by ca_aok
You're not the first one I read saying this.Quote:
Originally Posted by btrach8ter
Yeah because we all know how much the scene can be trusted especially as concerns bt.:unsure:Quote:
Originally Posted by CabaloYou're not the first one I read saying this.Quote:
Originally Posted by btrach8ter
Again I hate to harp on the fact but you can,you know, still find thousands of people that will merrily tell you that the Holocaust never happened .
Proof please .Until then just another nasty internet rumour.
hey u changed ur avatar.thank u :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hombre
Finish Him! Anyways here's Slevin's note regarding this imaginative thread via BTRACS forum:
guess anyone is entitled to their opinions.
regarding BTRACS security, all you "old guys" already know this, BTRACS always did and always will do everything to protect its members.
i assure you passwords are encrypted and no one has access to them, or any other members related information for that matter.
the author is probably someone with a grudge and is trying to make us look bad.
remember, you choose your password. it is secure, protected and no one knows it except you!
Slevin again proves he is a liar.
If u dont believe me, try for urself:
go to forgot password, and ask it to be emailed back to you. guess what then, u get the password u were using. when this happens it mean passwords are not encrypted on DB, because if they were, the system mails u a new one as he cant read the one stored on the db.
it's very easy to check for urself if he is a liar.
really be careful.
I totally believe him.Quote:
Originally Posted by blurayripper
Anyone that is too stupid to use capitalization obviously couldn't come up with a complicated scheme like that.
That would simply mean that MD5 encryption wasn't enabled in this vBulletin but it still could be hashed right and not visible inside the database. Anyways i'm more interested in seeing how long one could last at a regular white collar job without ever capitalizing a single letter.
It is pretty common for these shady invite/trading/selling forum sites to not encrypt passwords in their databases, which is why you'd have to be a retard to use the same password on multiple places, assuming you were retarded enough to register on them in the first place.
Besides staff abusing this, you also need to be worried about someone finding an exploit in the site and getting a hold of the DB with all of the users passwords, which happens more often then you'd think for shitty, hastily thrown together forums run by people who nothing about setting up a web server.
Not to mention, if you think the staff on these forums wouldn't give you up in an instant to save their own asses, please pass over this way whatever you are smoking.
chrisbeebops, i think you got BTRACS mistaken for one of those shady torrentinvite auction type forums. BTRACS is essentially a junior version of FST with the majority of the site dedicated to file sharing and BitTorrent discussions. Like FST it has a Trade, Request and Giveaway section and the majority of members do not trade/sell invites. It's usually the younger cats who are eager to jump into that trading game and some quickly get burned or disabled and learn their lesson. There are also rare occasions when thieves and scammers do get publicly reported and the same thing would happen here. I could pass you what i'm smoking but i guarantee you may enjoy it.
BTracs doesn't run on vBulletin.Quote:
Originally Posted by blurayripper
We don't publicly report thieves or scammers. They are banned/disabled when caught, but no personal details are ever spread to any trackers, even to the ones whom we have very good relations with.
Sorry for the confusion but i meant publicly banned/disabled and possibly their ip shared. I wasn't referring to talking to tracker personnelle for their is nothing to be gained there for that forum. But Cabalo i ask you if it were an extreme situation where you had proof and an infamous hacker was potentially involved would you share that info with tracker staff.
After having been on that dilemma for some time, and after discussing this with other more experienced staff than me, I came to the conclusion I wouldn't share such info.
There are a ton of reasons not to do it. Though I know most trackers would appreciate that, we simply can't or won't do that. Under any circumstance.
If I ever had a strong will to do that? Yes, more than once. But other values speak higher than my personal ones on these issues, so it won't happen.
I never heard of BTRACS until now. My guess is people just using the same password for everything
But this is not possible practically at all for any user.. Am I wrong??Quote:
Originally Posted by anon-sbi
back to the topic, its a shame that one forum is stealing account passwords..
Oh, what are you doing here by posting such a short line?? Collecting 20 valuable posts? :-PQuote:
Originally Posted by gravey
Just use KeePass or any other password manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by bijoy
Or just use notepad...
If you're paranoid, put the txt file in a pw protected rar
Uh... no.Quote:
Originally Posted by blurayripper
BTRACS closed user registration, created a no movement list, and set their trading and selling section so it could be viewed by registered users only in order to make it look like they've cleaned up their act. Nothing has changed, they've just changed their appearance in order to draw attention away from themselves. The no movement list isn't enforced, and it is currently impossible for sites to add themselves to the list, as you must PM a mod on BTRACS in order to add yourself, but cannot do so if you cannot register on the site. Not to mention that most of the regulars have migrated to another hidden trading/selling section called Black Hallways or similar.
I've seen the things BTRACS mods have done, anything from banning tracker staff accounts when they identify themselves as tracker staff to scamming their own users of their accounts and then selling the accounts to pay for the server bills.
There are some torrent forums which are mainly designed for discussion, with a smaller trading section. BTRACS most definitely does not fit that description.
Has it ever occured to the people slandering and flaming upon traders/sellers, that there are a lot of people that feel the same about regular P2P-users.
After all P2P-users are still thieves. The honest people that buy their CD's/DVD's/appz look at us in the same way we look at the traders and/or sellers.
I know there is honor amongst the regular P2P-community. So I always wonder if there isn't honor amongst certain traders/sellers. People that are honest when selling invites, that don't scam others and traders that trade honestly.
I completely understand your point chrisbeebops and it must of been shady and frustrating but times are changing. Registration is now open, you can now add a tracker to the NML list and it is enforced. Also selling trackers/invites for cash is now banned. From what i heard recently there is very little activity in the black hallways and that was setup to escape the clutches of tracker staff, who were doing a solid job disabling traders and invite givers. It's pretty clear that they didn't want anything to do with tracker staff apart from maybe setting up a recruitment thread but i think that will change and they are trying to clean up their act. That reference you made to scamming their own users out of accounts that was once done publicly via a mod to a known thief who scammed several members and the accounts were not sold as planned. I have no proof they weren't sold but that is what members were told.
I'm defending them on this thread for i hate when the facts aren't straight but in my opinion it's a complete joke thinking they regularly hack their own users accounts. I have not seen one post on their site with a user complaining about this and there is no proof of this. But we can bullshit and call them shady or whatever for days on end but odds of this threads hacking claim ever being supported by facts are slim to none.
Perfectly spoken.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisbeebops
BTRACS attempted to 'clean up their act' a few months back - at least publicly - by announcing that they were no longer allowing Invite/Account SALES (although trades could continue). It was even included in a new 'sticky' rule which stipulated such new restrictions. After about two or three weeks of this, the site noticeably began to get much less traffic as people jumped ship over to other shady forums. Anyone can see exactly what was their bread-n-butter, and that's in the selling of accounts/invites. Staff even knew it.
So those 'new' rules have gone by the wayside, and BTRACS is exactly where they were before these changes. To think otherwise is foolishness.
Yep, definitely banned selling.
http://i53.tinypic.com/2udupeu.png
Yep.
The ban is very new and the couple of links there that had actual pricing on the page was the wootspace's store link and Thor's land for sell and they were both locked by admin as you can see in your screenshot. Slevin locked the wootspace thread and issued this statement yesterday:
Posted: 9/23/2010 2:33:41 AM
selling is not allowed, please read the new rules!
Funny as those threads were only closed after this thread started. :whistling
Might as well just admit you're one of them blurayripper, it seems pretty clear to the rest of us :lol:
Anyway, enjoy feeling safe at your den of scum.
So, they are following fst too. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Cabalo
ca_aok from your two insightful posts it's clear where you stand and i'm ok with it. To me there is the good, there is the bad and the people in the middle just need some faith and direction. Is there some scum in that forum yes for sure and are there good non-trading pirates yes there are. There are also people on the fence who are just learning the game and are unsure what side to choose. But to label everyone the same there is irresponsible. I'm a just a member who enjoys helping people and the members and mods in there helped me out when i needed them just like they do here when i ask for it. I do find it humorous and tedious that i'm the last and only Mohican standing up for them against the hacking claims on this thread. The rest is just conversation and were just sharing our personal experiences regarding BTRACS.
All i have to say about BTRACS is this, when i joined some 8 months ago all i had was Demonoid invites and now i have a long list of high level trackers which i got from BTRACS senior members without paying ONE CENT. All i have now its because of their kindness, and i would give up my favorite tracker accounts before i would give up my account at BTRACS.
You apparently don't realize how silly that sounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by gumgum
You apparently don`t realize you need to get a life.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
For the record, blurayripper isn't trader/scum. I've spoken to him on a few occasions and he's always been cordial/patient/approachable. I obviously can never say if he's an angel, but his conduct in this thread alone should speak volumes about the kind of person he is (regardless of his stance on the topic at hand).Quote:
Originally Posted by ca_aok