Just thinking aloud here, Does it really help with "security" having a false front Page , and do the necessary Re-direction to the eventual Login ?:01:
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Just thinking aloud here, Does it really help with "security" having a false front Page , and do the necessary Re-direction to the eventual Login ?:01:
Depends on what your notion of "security" is, I suppose. For most sites, simply reading the review here on FST should tell you it's a fake page, and sometimes how to get through it. Better than nothing, I guess :idunno:Quote:
Does it really help with "security" having a false front Page , and do the necessary Re-direction to the eventual Login ?
Every little bit helps, at least it can't hurt. The important thing to remember is even though the most complicated fake login page won't fool everyone, it will fool some people and thats what matters. I remember with one tracker to even see the login page I had to type a few words into a search bar, if I didn't have my cookies set and I forgot those words I'd have to go back and check my email. That was okay since I was a member I had that email saved, if I wasn't a member just a curious onlooker it would be a little more challenging. Also a tracker review only gives away so much, not every secret can be found in a screenshot. Some of them stay pretty well between members.Quote:
Originally Posted by Enlightened
They do even less than using only acronyms to refer to sites. The chances of any random stumbling upon the url homepage of one of those sites is minimal, so anyone who arrives there probably knows what they are looking for.
If it Does Not eally help. anyone that has an account are shown how to properly Login during the confirmation stage of the registrarion, why even bother with all the added work of coding to create a Redirection, that I don't think it really HELPS, IMHO
P.s. That is why I like PrOn sites, every thing is "Nake" to the eye. No hiding of anything, No False Front.......LMAO
There was a huge long thread about this a few months ago.Maybe see if you can find it .Quote:
Originally Posted by Enlightened
It's essentially useless. Assuming the anti-p2p folks troll the internet for a classic TBDev or Gazelle login page is just dumb.
These fake pages are nothing but a joke in the name of security.
What's dumb is assuming that that is the reason behind fake pages.Quote:
Originally Posted by ca_aok
Exactly. It's more like "security through obscurity", and this "security" is pretty much NONE.Quote:
Originally Posted by bijoy
Care to enlighten us then oh wise one?Quote:
Originally Posted by pro267What's dumb is assuming that that is the reason behind fake pages.Quote:
Originally Posted by ca_aok
Not really, and certainly not here.Quote:
Originally Posted by ca_aokCare to enlighten us then oh wise one?Quote:
Originally Posted by pro267
Damn, someone's got an inflated self-image :lol:
It only gets "inflated" when I see clueless people such as yourself, Mr. Cock, who think that just because they're on tracker X or Y they know everything there is to know about trackers, and allow themselves to dismiss a feature they don't understand the reasoning of as "dumb". On a side note, I usually consider anything that the vast majority here thinks is dumb as genial.
Edit: not worth it, really. If you have a problem with me, feel free to PM me.
Secret login pages are essential to success, you should know better Mr. Cock!
ps: I've always secretly hoped that pro267 resembles his avatar IRL. That is one crazed bad-ass and pro267 is the only convincing forum-rager I know that can base arguments on pure spite :P
So for the sake of argument,why only a handful of Trackers are employing it, if it really "Helps" in any way........I wonder?
Some of the trackers that employ it are pretty successful, so it could be helping.Quote:
Originally Posted by Enlightened
That did actually make me chuckle out loudQuote:
Originally Posted by 1000possibleclaws
Back on topic
Do they help?
Entirely context dependant, say someone goes to a page looking for tracker and finds .. weirdstuff.com , thinks sh*t this cant be it and f**ks off, its helped! Yay
If he finds weirdstuff.com and thinks yeh right, no help at all :noes:
Thanks, mate, I consider that a compliment :smilie4:Quote:
Originally Posted by 1000possibleclaws
In other news, that's weird Al in my avatoir. I find it strange most don't recognize him.
I recognized him right away, then again I've also seen UHF at least 3 or 4 times. I'm a bit of a closeted Weird Al fan LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by pro267Thanks, mate, I consider that a compliment :smilie4:Quote:
Originally Posted by 1000possibleclaws
In other news, that's weird Al in my avatoir. I find it strange most don't recognize him.
The only tracker with a login system that I like would happen to be CN.
Every user has their own unique login URL, which is something that you don't see on every other tracker.
A very humorous thread.
Pro267, is it because of server stress relief then? A viable news outlet (reference)? I honestly can't think of any decision-making reason that could lead a staff-team to have a fake page instead of the lack of one. A lot of successful trackers skip this, and a lot of new trackers tout having one as a bonus for user security. If there's something incredibly obvious and necessary for having such a page, by all means shoot me a pm calling me an idiot and telling me why and what it is. But until then, I apologize, but I'm hardly convinced that these things exist for any logical reason.
for a start
*#$% --> FTN
EDIT : I will remove that.
I really don't know what you want to achieve by posting that. :mellow:Quote:
Originally Posted by zonked
my point is they can as well keep only the IP and not have any name in first place.
ps. many top torrent sites do that.
So far, I can ONLY see it helps, if one Google's a search, for the Tracker, and that person, NOT a member, Does NOT know the "Right" keyword or password to to feed it in the Fake Page, to cause a Redirection to the Actual Login page of the Tracker
that may help those trackers to get to some higher 'level' (specially for the new ones), making hype, etc etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Enlightened
You do realize that getting higher level is the last thing tracker staff would like to get?
It's useless for them and only brings unnecessary attention from traders/collectors...
Exactly. The irony here is that the people who seem to think that trackers are trying to hype up themselves are precisely the people who are taken by hype themselves. They're so preoccupied by it that they seem to think that everything revolves around trying to hype something up.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeadPoet
I'm guessing most fake login pages are to hide the site from the provider who is hosting the site.
That makes little to no sense. Hiding from the host is a moot point, considering the host can just root in and check what files are hosted on the server exactly, past the login front. The only exception, is when you buy out a guy at the DC, in which case, it wouldn't make much sense having a fake front, then, would it?Quote:
Originally Posted by lysine
At the same time, there are multiple hosts that will gladly cater to a demanding site's needs without giving a damn about the material or content hosted, especially in countries that don't have laws forbidding piracy/downloading (I've heard Korea/Canada are always a good call) or as long as jurisdiction doesn't apply (right past the US border for 90% of the media people juggle across servers).
fake login pages like the one ftn uses are OK, I suppose. but some really overdo it (iTS comes to mind... :D)
Can't agree with that. You should see what are the level submissions tracker staff put when they submit a tracker to the WTAW list. Haven't seen anything below 8 so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeadPoet
So yes, many many care about their level.
Also, post-2008 community trackers most likely depend at least in part on hype in order to get any activity whatsoever. Because there have been lots these trackers and not enough people who care for them to go around.
Bunch of hypocrats.Quote:
Originally Posted by CabaloCan't agree with that. You should see what are the level submissions tracker staff put when they submit a tracker to the WTAW list. Haven't seen anything below 8 so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeadPoet
So yes, many many care about their level.
What a lame way of promoting your tracker. But I guess it's the only way if tracker doesn't offer anything exclusive content wise and only thing it could offer is secret/the best community. :lol:
I like the waffles front - it actually provides a relatively functional wiki with proper recipes. Search "glass of water" or something to that effect.
Oh and deadpoet I appreciate your sig.
Thanks to the fake Waffles page I can now serve my dinner guests Dog Barf Burritos tonight to really get the ball rolling. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Malvosita
Didn't see the dog barf, but that's funny as hell anyways.