How come the United States of America is not banned from any private tracker?

How come the United States of America is not banned from any private tracker? Since I live in the United States, I would like to find out the answer to this question. What makes us so good that we are not banned from any tracker?

It might be because most of their content usually consist of US movies, US TV shows and US music

There is actually 3 sites that I know banned US, but they are local sites just trying to get attention

because we fucking own.
that's why.

What 3 sites banned the U.S.?

^^^ are you fan of Osama bin laden.
You live in US but I dont think you are an American.
And also I would like to clear you that there are plenty of other country who are also not ban from any private trackers. So dont headache about US.

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Originally Posted by OlegL

How come the United States of America is not banned from any private tracker? Since I live in the United States, I would like to find out the answer to this question. What makes us so good that we are not banned from any tracker?

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simply, most of the users (at least 40%) of different tracker belongs to us. so banning usa= destroying own tracker. :naughty:

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Originally Posted by bijoy

simply, most of the users and donors (at least 40%) of different tracker belongs to us. so banning usa= destroying own tracker. :naughty:

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Because the U.S. steals money from other countries (such as Romania), enriches their own economy with the money, so U.S. users will most likely have more disposable cash (donations), which is the most important factor for any private tracker.

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Originally Posted by ElitUser

So dont headache about US.

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But I live in the U.S.; therefore, my question is specifically about the U.S.

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Originally Posted by whatcdfan

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Originally Posted by bijoy

simply, most of the users and donors (at least 40%) of different tracker belongs to us. so banning usa= destroying own tracker. :naughty:

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yea, thanks!! Missed that vital point..

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Originally Posted by Anarkial

Because the U.S. steals money from other countries (such as Romania), enriches their own economy with the money, so U.S. users will most likely have more disposable cash (donations), which is the most important factor for any private tracker.

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Do you really entertain the unimaginable belief that the people in charge of all that thievery blah blah blah are your fellow torrenters? Generally you're a pretty intelligent poster, so what gives?


Intr4nsedit:Since 1990, the American people have contributed more than $620 million in economic and technical assistance, which evolved from its initial emphases on humanitarian aid and rebuilding the collapsed economy to forming partnerships which supported Romania’s transition to a free market democracy. USAID assisted its Romanian partners in developing financial markets, small private businesses, and energy markets, while protecting the environment, improving democratic governance, building civil society, reforming the rule of law, strengthening women’s health care, reforming child welfare, and fortifying disaster preparedness.

With your track record of getting banned, Oleg, I can only assume you are trying to get the WHOLE US banned through association. :ermm:

Bcoz they have a nuke :D

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Originally Posted by hagckz0r

Bcoz they have a nuke :D

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:lol: good one

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Originally Posted by Intr4ns1t

Intr4nsedit:Since 1990, the American people have contributed more than $620 million in economic and technical assistance, which evolved from its initial emphases on humanitarian aid and rebuilding the collapsed economy to forming partnerships which supported Romania’s transition to a free market democracy. USAID assisted its Romanian partners in developing financial markets, small private businesses, and energy markets, while protecting the environment, improving democratic governance, building civil society, reforming the rule of law, strengthening women’s health care, reforming child welfare, and fortifying disaster preparedness.

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TRANSLATION: the americans gave 620$ million under the table to the corrupt romanian government so they can establish a military base at Mihail Kogalniceanu airport, near the Black Sea. Why? Thats why:
"US soldiers used the Mihail Kogalniceanu airbase as a hub to send equipment and 7,000 combat troops into Iraq during the early stages of the invasion in 2003, and temporarily kept up to 3,500 American troops there."

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Originally Posted by gumgum

TRANSLATION: the americans gave 620$ million under the table to the corrupt romanian government so they can establish a military base at Mihail Kogalniceanu airport, near the Black Sea. Why? Thats why:
"US soldiers used the Mihail Kogalniceanu airbase as a hub to send equipment and 7,000 combat troops into Iraq during the early stages of the invasion in 2003, and temporarily kept up to 3,500 American troops there."

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I think you misunderstand the term "under the table", especially in this context. That link is self-evidently "above the table" money. I would guess the amount spent "under the table" is equal to, if not significantly more than, that figure.

I do not argue that the US is a fuxxed up place right now, as the existing economic paradigm here is starting to really show it's inherent deficiencies. That is obviously starting to catch up with our, and by virtue of our diffusion into the economies of so many markets worldwide, the worlds, way of trade. Nor would I argue that many unsavory acts have occurred at the behest of the U.S. gov't, corporations, and "special interests", and continue to be perpetrated. However, that does not = stealing from Romania, to enrich our own economy.

If you want to be angry, be angry at multi-national corporations, operating with impunity and no regulation, who hold sway over ALL world governments. That is the real problem, the centralization of wealth. Once America stops being the big dog on earth, those corporations will put their money elsewhere, and already are doing so in China in anticipation of their inevitable ousting of the US from the top spot. It's a problem, much, MUCH bigger, than one government, or one nations economy. It's a world economy, and we are finally starting to see that.

Because they're a first-world country, and therefore have a good telecommunications infrastructure. So, while I'm not saying everyone in the States has a fat pipe or that none of them are troublemakers as far as trackers are concerned, they don't have as much problems uploading (for example) compared to someone paying top-dollar for a 256Kbit connection on some less fortunate country. Making the ratio of good to bad users in the USA is lower than on other countries.

Anyway, that's just my theory and doesn't cover trading nor selling, I know. :idunno:

"If you want to be angry, be angry at multi-national corporations, operating with impunity and no regulation, who hold sway over ALL world governments. That is the real problem, the centralization of wealth. Once America stops being the big dog on earth, those corporations will put their money elsewhere, and already are doing so in China in anticipation of their inevitable ousting of the US from the top spot. It's a problem, much, MUCH bigger, than one government, or one nations economy. It's a world economy, and we are finally starting to see that."

I totally second that.

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Originally Posted by Intr4ns1t

If you want to be angry, be angry at multi-national corporations, operating with impunity and no regulation, who hold sway over ALL world governments. That is the real problem, the centralization of wealth. Once America stops being the big dog on earth, those corporations will put their money elsewhere, and already are doing so in China in anticipation of their inevitable ousting of the US from the top spot. It's a problem, much, MUCH bigger, than one government, or one nations economy. It's a world economy, and we are finally starting to see that.

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I am well-versed in this topic but didn't imagine that many other people would want to engage me on that level, so I just made it relatively simple by attaching a visible and very-present entity (America) to my claim. I agree with everything you have said, and I just said Romania as an addition to everyone banning Romania.

Nobody bans US because Obama would nuke their asses. End of story.

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Originally Posted by Anarkial

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Originally Posted by Intr4ns1t

If you want to be angry, be angry at multi-national corporations, operating with impunity and no regulation, who hold sway over ALL world governments. That is the real problem, the centralization of wealth. Once America stops being the big dog on earth, those corporations will put their money elsewhere, and already are doing so in China in anticipation of their inevitable ousting of the US from the top spot. It's a problem, much, MUCH bigger, than one government, or one nations economy. It's a world economy, and we are finally starting to see that.

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I am well-versed in this topic but didn't imagine that many other people would want to engage me on that level, so I just made it relatively simple by attaching a visible and very-present entity (America) to my claim. I agree with everything you have said, and I just said Romania as an addition to everyone banning Romania.

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Fair enough. It made me go "c'mon, really?" when I read it :P And of course, being the over(t?)ly opinionated fellow that I am, I couldn't just let it sit there unanswered :whistling

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Originally Posted by Robert A. Heinlein

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, and die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.

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Maybe, because USA does the above so effectively and efficiently? :idunno:

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Originally Posted by OlegL

How come the United States of America is not banned from any private tracker? Since I live in the United States, I would like to find out the answer to this question. What makes us so good that we are not banned from any tracker?

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Well, why is Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Holland and many other countries not banned in any trackers yet? I guess that the number of cheaters are so low that it wouldn't make sense to ban a whole country. I don't believe that Americans/Danes/Swedes/UK are cheating that much.

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Originally Posted by Anarkial

Because the U.S. steals money from other countries (such as Romania), enriches their own economy with the money, so U.S. users will most likely have more disposable cash (donations), which is the most important factor for any private tracker.

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LOL, it's hard to take you statement seriously. Should I blame USA for everytime that Romanian illegal gypsy immigrants are coming to Denmark with the purpose to rob and to steal stuffs? USA has nothing to do with ban of Romanian users.

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Originally Posted by cruen

can someone take a few photographs of united states and post here ..

i dont know how united states looks like ?

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a rough estimate here, 1 in 400 usa members will cheat/trade/dupe (still a lot with the amount of americans in trackers, but not something that the staff cant handle)
Other places, 1-10 will be a cheat/trader/dupe (but they have less overall members, but its that bad its just easier to stop them signing up in the first place)

I also done a quick calculation on our donors 1 in 8 donors are from the USA, but we still have loads (well not loads as we only get about 250 in total every month but still a fair share of the members that do donate are from Brazil) of donors from Brazil, but we ban Brazil from signing up, so its got sod all to do with donations.

I dont think normal members realise how much of a headache it is, when a tracker opens up, its like, oh they are open, but they will close again, sign up 300 * with 300 different ips/emails etc, then we close and they trade them all, or we open up, members downloads, gets into kl, abandons account, signs up again etc etc, or "ah they are open, I can cheat now, if i get banned i can just get in again".

I hate banning any country, but at least we just ban them from signing up, if you already have an account, you can keep it, its not a blanket ban on everyone, problem is though we will be missing out on "some" good members, but the vast majority are not "good" members so loosing a couple of good ones is worth it if we keep out 3000+ bad ones imho.

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Originally Posted by stoi

I hate banning any country, but at least we just ban them from signing up, if you already have an account, you can keep it, its not a blanket ban on everyone, problem is though we will be missing out on "some" good members, but the vast majority are not "good" members so loosing a couple of good ones is worth it if we keep out 3000+ bad ones imho.

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thumbs up

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Originally Posted by ScottK

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Another couple of thumbs up. I can understand why trackers ban countries but it's really stupid to wipe already-existing members from that country as well, specially when they weren't breaking any rules.

I have been close to banning Egypt and India from signup/invite. If I ever did go through with a blanket ban on countries then I wouldn't ban the existing decent members from these countires just because of the actions of others.

Yeah, gret question, even switching to different ISP,is seems okay, sometime the ISP will NOT "allow" certain sites, Not common occurrence though.

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Originally Posted by Enlightened

Yeah, gret question, even switching to different ISP,is seems okay, sometime the ISP will NOT "allow" certain sites, Not common occurrence though.

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surprisingly those problem generally happen with the isps of usa and uk :P

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Originally Posted by Ev0

I have been close to banning Egypt and India from signup/invite. If I ever did go through with a blanket ban on countries then I wouldn't ban the existing decent members from these countires just because of the actions of others.

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Just a question and it might not make a lot of sense but if you take the extreme measure to ban whole countries because apparently a larger than acceptable percentage of denizens of those areas cheat/sell/trade/hit and run /look at you funny or whatever while allowing current citizens to remain isn't that sort of silly ?
I mean you are damning some purely on speculation and assumption and embracing others based on little more.

Really who's to say , whatever appearances to the contrary, that current member Joe from Cheatoria isn't merrily selling invites right and left all the while you are barring maybe innumerable decent people from the same country?

OK bt isn't real life but in real life that kind of skewed nonsensical prejudicial thinking is sometimes called racial profiling and I believed it's outlawed in any civilized place.

Here's a thought, instead of banning people for no reason other than their place of origin ( which btw I'm sure some would happily change if they could) , maybe either credit all the people that you've already allowed into your tracker the sense to use their invites wisely or failing that only give invites to those members that you have complete trust in .
If either of those don't work then take the initiative ,like some sites do, to select applicants yourself based on merit and not nationality.

Btw the last one isn't really the best idea though since if a site is already populated by a majority of people who you apparently can't trust it doesn't speak well for the current staffs ability to make good decisions.:mellow:

be serious .. this is a f..ed fake subject.....and the op is high....
the math is simple: there are 200 countries in the world.... the problem is that max 10 countries are constantly banned (they are almost the same on every tracker), so that leaves 190 countries that never goes banned, including usa... so nothing special....

@ idol i am not sure how its got anything to do with the staffs decisions. most invites are giving out on ratio alone, so could just be 1000 pricks with seedboxes or a fast home connection, or clever/smart cheaters. or open signup so the staff has no say there at all.

and surely trackers that never open/have an application interview (99% of which the applicant will have to have a good knowledge of English, if they cant speak it, tough) are a lot worse for what you term "racial profiling" as they either dont let anyone at all sign up so every country is banned, or you have to speak English to get in, and know the far end of a fart about a subject you may not have an interest in but just use it as a pastime, encoding (you get in) - watching movies (you dont), V0/Flac (you get in) - listening to some tunes (you dont).

btw i am just playing devils advocate here, and just replying to your post, or me its up to the individual tracker how they want to do it.

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Originally Posted by stoi

@ idol i am not sure how its got anything to do with the staffs decisions. most invites are giving out on ratio alone, so could just be 1000 pricks with seedboxes or a fast home connection, or clever/smart cheaters. or open signup so the staff has no say there at all.

and surely trackers that never open/have an application interview (99% of which the applicant will have to have a good knowledge of English, if they cant speak it, tough) are a lot worse for what you term "racial profiling" as they either dont let anyone at all sign up so every country is banned, or you have to speak English to get in, and know the far end of a fart about a subject you may not have an interest in but just use it as a pastime, encoding (you get in) - watching movies (you dont), V0/Flac (you get in) - listening to some tunes (you dont).

btw i am just playing devils advocate here, and just replying to your post, or me its up to the individual tracker how they want to do it.

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:) Me too...... most of the time .
Just trying to offer up an opinion to try to maybe get someone out there thinking instead of just drifting along in whichever direction the current happens to be pulling strongest at the moment.

As for tracker members that don't seem to be fluent in English,they seem to have no problem in getting into a couple "community trackers that I'm a member of.
Not to unfairly rip on them but it makes for much consternation and hilarity in the forums when most topics are greeted with little more than "I agrew " and " I rate that a 9/10" .
Sort of why in the multilingual internet bt trackers that are premised around "community " as opposed to simple file sharing are sort of doomed to failure from the get go.
Some of the best sharers , most dedicated and obliging people aren't comfortable in English and yet feel that they still "need" to vocally contribute to those places.

One of the reasons that I don't join non-English trackers actually but then again I'm fortunate ( or maybe unfortunate :unsure:) that I have a surfeit of other places to join as it is.

1) The percentage of US users that turn out to be shitbags is much lower than that of a country, like say, Romania or Egypt. It's simply a numbers game.
2) The IP distribution system in the US is much more sensible than it is in a place like Romania. It's much easier to keep an eye on banned members attempting to rejoin when the dynamic IP ranges aren't flip-flopping across hundreds of miles each day.

I wish I knew what inspires entire countries to trade/sell/cheat as a general rule. I assume it's some sort of societal difference, since the users in question don't always have super-slow upload pipes. Nonetheless, while a blanket ban is in no way fair, it's arguably necessary for certain countries, and that's the real sad part of the matter.

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Originally Posted by Intr4ns1t

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Originally Posted by gumgum

TRANSLATION: the americans gave 620$ million under the table to the corrupt romanian government so they can establish a military base at Mihail Kogalniceanu airport, near the Black Sea. Why? Thats why:
"US soldiers used the Mihail Kogalniceanu airbase as a hub to send equipment and 7,000 combat troops into Iraq during the early stages of the invasion in 2003, and temporarily kept up to 3,500 American troops there."

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I think you misunderstand the term "under the table", especially in this context. That link is self-evidently "above the table" money. I would guess the amount spent "under the table" is equal to, if not significantly more than, that figure.

I do not argue that the US is a fuxxed up place right now, as the existing economic paradigm here is starting to really show it's inherent deficiencies. That is obviously starting to catch up with our, and by virtue of our diffusion into the economies of so many markets worldwide, the worlds, way of trade. Nor would I argue that many unsavory acts have occurred at the behest of the U.S. gov't, corporations, and "special interests", and continue to be perpetrated. However, that does not = stealing from Romania, to enrich our own economy.

If you want to be angry, be angry at multi-national corporations, operating with impunity and no regulation, who hold sway over ALL world governments. That is the real problem, the centralization of wealth. Once America stops being the big dog on earth, those corporations will put their money elsewhere, and already are doing so in China in anticipation of their inevitable ousting of the US from the top spot. It's a problem, much, MUCH bigger, than one government, or one nations economy. It's a world economy, and we are finally starting to see that.

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Spot on post

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Originally Posted by anon-sbi

Because they're a first-world country, and therefore have a good telecommunications infrastructure. ....compared to someone paying top-dollar for a 256Kbit connection on some less fortunate country. Making the ratio of good to bad users in the USA is lower than on other countries.:

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Thant's not the ''true''. The only thing that matter it's that the people from USA donate a lot. And this why it's not banned on trackers.

As for the internet speed,most of romanian users have 100 Mbps bandwith, that speed with other romanians, and 50 Mbps with the rest of the countries.
Also starting from last year, romanians ISP had updated the infrastructure and started giving to people 1 Gbps connections.

PS: If want, ignore what i said, and look and this ranking, or search on google ranking for countries with best internet speeds ;)

http://speedtest.net/global.php#0

*coungh* you won't see USA not even in top 20 =)))) *cough*

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Originally Posted by maddoxro

As for the internet speed,most of romanian users have 100 Mbps bandwith, that speed with other romanians ...

PS: If want, ignore what i said, and look and this ranking, or search on google ranking for countries with best internet speeds ;)

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Agreed, but considered the fact many of those .ro speed tests have been made to servers on the same country?

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Originally Posted by ca_aok

I wish I knew what inspires entire countries to trade/sell/cheat as a general rule. I assume it's some sort of societal difference, since the users in question don't always have super-slow upload pipes. Nonetheless, while a blanket ban is in no way fair, it's arguably necessary for certain countries, and that's the real sad part of the matter.

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Very likely cultural as in some societies swindling is seen as merely being astute in business.
Of course you'd need a study to prove that and as concerns bt you obviously aren't going to get one.

damn i;ll make an 1337 trackeR USA not alloweed ....