There is something I don't understand about the serial killer Ted Bundy

Okay, I know that he was very shy in his junior high school years, but how did he overcome his shyness and become so charming? I watched one movie about him, but is there a movie where Bundy is shown during his teenage years? It's very interesting that so many women adored him and sent him love letters before he was executed. So, my question is how he overcame his shyness and became idolized by so many women.

He was a psychopath, you fuckwit. You can't learn to be like him.

But what I am saying is that it's hard for me to understand how a person can be shy, but at the same time be charming and have good social skills. Ted Bundy was such a person, right?

Yeah, because he gave a shit about what opinion would people form about him and he knew the "forceful" way of getting the shit out of girls, but I have to admit, he was a genius in criminal psychology.

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Originally Posted by Snee

He was a psychopath, you fuckwit. You can't learn to be like him.

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That's crazy talk.

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Originally Posted by Snee

He was a psychopath, you fuckwit. You can't learn to be like him.

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Don't let Snee get you down, Oleg. You can be like any sociopath you want- if you try hard, and TRULY want it. Grab life by the throat and slice, my imbalanced friend. Slice.

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Originally Posted by OlegL

But what I am saying is that it's hard for me to understand how a person can be shy, but at the same time be charming and have good social skills. Ted Bundy was such a person, right?

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I've never heard of the guy, but I don't see why one should be either shy or have good social skills and not both.
Maybe look at the root of the shyness, for example a fear of being judged would cause you to both not want to interact with people but at the same time thrive to perfect it for those times when you are required to interact.

I think women are fundamentally attracted to men with unibrow, that might be the reason they found him so charming...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...y_headshot.jpg

You know what to do now to get laid, implants...

strong personality... simply that
whether it's based on intellectual superiority, arrogance, or whatever. It's the self-assuredness that is magnetic. Not studying his history in detail, I don't know if he was "charming", but charm and gravitation are not the same thing.

But it's interesting that even someone like him was suffering from shyness for a certain period of his life.

Oleg, are you talking about yourself? (a little diverted from your own) :unsure:

What?

He's asking about your connection with Ted Bundy I think. Are you waiting to blossom into the full on serial killer you've always dreamed of becoming? Are you worried you won't have the charisma to really hit that star potential?

I wouldn't let lack of charisma stop your serial killer dream . Jeffery Dahmer was an oily, unlikable, sexually perverted piece of fuck and he still managed to make it to the top.

From what I've heard, the serial killer thing starts early, and manifests in hurting small animals. Any history of this sort of thing, Oleg? I'm not saying you can't overcome your "shyness", just feel you will need some proper tutoring if you plan to start late.

The good news is, you live in NY city, so you should be able to find a psycho killer in the Yellow Pages.

Until you find qualified tutelage, I suggest you eat at KFC a few times a week to get yourself surrounded by those known for cruelty to small animals. And, it's pretty darn tasty, too!

Maybe I should have started this topic in the Drawing Room 'cause you ain't taking me seriously here. I am asking a serious question. I still have a difficulty understanding how a person who is shy suddenly develops great social skills and charms women into believing his every word.

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Originally Posted by OlegL

I am asking a serious question. I still have a difficulty understanding how a person who is shy suddenly develops great social skills and charms women into believing his every word.

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I think the scientific term is alcohol .

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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787

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Originally Posted by OlegL

I am asking a serious question. I still have a difficulty understanding how a person who is shy suddenly develops great social skills and charms women into believing his every word.

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I think the scientific term is alcohol .

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Oh my God... IdolEyes787, please, just give me a serious answer to my question.

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Originally Posted by OlegL

Maybe I should have started this topic in the Drawing Room 'cause you ain't taking me seriously here. I am asking a serious question. I still have a difficulty understanding how a person who is shy suddenly develops great social skills and charms women into believing his every word.

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I found this quote that might be relevant here...

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Originally Posted by Miss Manners

Killing women does NOT equal great social skills.

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Of course not, but you need to have social skills if you want women to trust you, right? And women definitely trusted him.

Here's a pickup line that works every time....

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Hey.... does this smell like chloroform to you?

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Originally Posted by OlegL

Of course not, but you need to have social skills if you want women to trust you, right? And women definitely trusted him.

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I'll let you in on a little secret that works quite well on women. Lie. Pretend to be well-educated, come from a rich family, have seen the world- and will be traveling again soon. Pretend to be all kinds of stuff you are not, and women will "trust" you. It happens all the time.

From there, you should easily be able to rape, kill, and dismember them (not necessarily in that order :naughty: ).

Listen, forget about raping and killing; I am only talking about his social skills. And he was indeed well educated; he didn't have to lie about it. And let me repeat, this is a SERIOUS topic, so please give me serious responses.

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Originally Posted by OlegL

Listen, forget about raping and killing; I am only talking about his social skills. And he was indeed well educated; he didn't have to lie about it. And let me repeat, this is a SERIOUS topic, so please give me serious responses.

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If you wanted serious, TrollEgg, you would not have based your role model for "social skills" on Ted Bundy. :dry:

Oh, you actually made a good point here, but I am just surprised by the fact that even someone like him who was probably incapable of love experienced a normal human feeling, which was shyness. Or am I wrong and he was actually capable of love? Is there anyone on this board who studied him and knows his psychology well? If yes, can you tell me if he was capable of love?

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Originally Posted by OlegL

Oh, you actually made a good point here, but I am just surprised by the fact that even someone like him who was probably incapable of love experienced a normal human feeling, which was shyness. Or am I wrong and he was actually capable of love? Is there anyone on this board who studied him and knows his psychology well? If yes, can you tell me if he was capable of love?

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It is unknown exactly how he would have "felt" shyness, or anything else. (Look to phenomenology on that one.) However, he could, and most likely did, display a distancing from other people. It was obvious that he would not fit in with "normal" people doing "normal" things- that goes to the very definition of sociopath/psychopath.

Ultimately, he was a predator. Anything he did was in effort, not to be normal, but to find and kill his prey as he seemed fit. His actions were like any other predator- get close enough to your prey (either be faster, stronger, or blend in to the surroundings) and strike when circumstances are to your advantage. Controlling the environment is even better.

You are mistaken in your assessment that he overcame his shyness. He overcame obstacles that kept him from achieving his goal(s). Period. He never became "normal".

OK, let me tell you from a perspective of someone fully capable of killing a lot of people. I in fact have a serial killer mentality. Oleg, you want to know our secrets...

We think we are better than everyone else. That's it, all the petty shit that "normal" people worry about is a joke. Everything we consider important and ponder usually would exhaust the normal person just listening to it (oh waaah, I had to work so hard today, I just want to watch Jersey Shore because I'm a stupid fucking cunt). Interacting with people to whom you are superior is a simple task, but it's also tedious. Shyness would indicate a fear of judgment, but when you couldn't possibly care less about someone else's opinion of you, who cares about judgment. You can't just simply learn that state of mind, stop chasing a pipe dream.

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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787

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Originally Posted by OlegL

I am asking a serious question. I still have a difficulty understanding how a person who is shy suddenly develops great social skills and charms women into believing his every word.

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I think the scientific term is alcohol .

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Originally Posted by OlegL

Oh my God... IdolEyes787, please, just give me a serious answer to my question.

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I think the scientific term is alcohol C2H5OH .:unsure:

Olegl probably part of your problem is using the sentence "It puts the lotion on it's skin" as a pickup line .

Of course there was some gradual development. Nobody goes from being nothing to something overnight. Newspapers find it more selling to report his shyness as a kid (it makes you think he was all innocent and all) and then jump directly to his criminal life. It's just a story that sells. Beside, what he did in between was most likely boring and not worth reporting.

It's like how they do with famous scientists. In one line you'll read about kid Edison sitting on an egg to hatch it and then follows his 1200 (?) inventions. It's a story that sells. The amount of time he took to get there is almost always skipped (or talked about very briefly), unless there's some selling factor there too.

They call it a montage. :mellow:

Didn't Ted Bundy himself say it took him over two years to execute his first kill, six months for the second, and little under two weeks for his subsequent third?

It's a slipper slope. One minute you're a shy troll on an internet forum talking about not having a girlfriend, next minute you've got your father's penis up your ass.

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Originally Posted by Darth Rings

Didn't Ted Bundy himself say it took him over two years to execute his first kill, six months for the second, and little under two weeks for his subsequent third?

It's a slipper slope. One minute you're a shy troll on an internet forum talking about not having a girlfriend, next minute you've got your father's penis up your ass.

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If that turns out to be the case, pray it's a slippery slope. :O

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Originally Posted by Darth Rings

Didn't Ted Bundy himself say it took him over two years to execute his first kill, six months for the second, and little under two weeks for his subsequent third?

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You mean, he was psychologically preparing to commit those crimes? That's interesting. If what you are saying is true, maybe he wasn't really a psychopath, but felt some guilt and remorse?

No, he wanted to be in complete control AND not get caught.

Quit trying to assign normalcy to Bundy. It doesn't work. He wasn't shy, he was figuring out how to murder his prey. He didn't mill around concerned with his shyness- he was plotting out scenarios where he would have complete control over his victims.

Youse do realise that you're all being spastics, don't youse?

It's not remorse ,it's the exact opposite and it's called escalation . Look it up.

It could have been an interesting discussion, if it hadn't been started by a troll. :(

Or browse chalice's prior posts for an example.

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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787

Or browse chalice's prior posts for an example.

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Escalation means "cunt"? :unsure:

Yeah, I just don't see how any kind of serious discussion could be borne from a troll asking how he could be more like Ted Bundy so he could meet girls :D