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Sounds, FTMP, legit. Let's see if it gains momentum...
I dont have a problem with this being legal, however I dont know if it will happen anytime soon if ever. If it does happen it will be regulated so strictly that people will wish it was illegal again. What I mean is for a casual smoker that gets pulled over with a dime bag its usually just a slap on the hand and you serve no jail time and get off without a felony and a slap on the wrist. If it is made legal I would assume knowing how the U.S. government works you will need a license, proof of legal purchase, submit to driving tests for impairment, and open yourself up to unreasonable search and seizure. Cops will assume if you have cannabis you will have other drugs and even if you are in possession of cannabis legally it will allow probable cause for a search of your vehicle. Im no law scholar but I guarantee it will be worse legal than illegal! PEACE
Fine by me!Quote:
Originally Posted by stlcardinal9
I can deal with not driving high if it's legal to buy...and to grow.
The taxes would help elivate alot of certain states issues and not tax so much on other goods.
Also, if anything I beat you will need a license to sell it like they do beer and probably only so many per county/state..
Rumors for years that Marlboro has the patent on weed cigs if it ever did become legal.
Being able to grow it is a stretch, it will cost thousands of dollars in fees, licenses, insurance etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by SonsOfLibertyFine by me!Quote:
Originally Posted by stlcardinal9
I can deal with not driving high if it's legal to buy...and to grow.
The taxes would help elivate alot of certain states issues and not tax so much on other goods.
Also, if anything I beat you will need a license to sell it like they do beer and probably only so many per county/state..
Rumors for years that Marlboro has the patent on weed cigs if it ever did become legal.
Taxes are a joke no matter what gets taxed the money never gets used for legitimate reasons only for politicians pet projects or to line their own pockets. You will never see a positive benefit for states from tax dollars the money will disapear and the government will say the money is going back in the system to pay treatment costs and medical bills for DRUG ABUSERS
You will need a license to sell it and you will need a license to buy it along with a proof of purchase, not having a license or proof of purchase is going to be a FELONY. Also even if the federal government does legalize it places of employment will still drug test and could even use past purchases or a license to purchase weed which will be a public record against you and not hire you.
And the cost will be SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER, legalizing marijuana is a REAL easy way for the government to actually BAN it completely through taxation!
What are the chances of this bill being passed? I'm not in America so don't know how the political system works, but does the Government have the power to overthrow a passed bill?
Chances are slim to none, the president can veto a bill only if it doesnt get a super majority vote in the house and senate, which means it would have to get 75% support in the house and the senate. To answer your question a bill/law can pass the U.S. house of representatives 435 members and the Senate 100 members but could be vetoed by the President 1 member! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by iLOVENZB
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Originally Posted by stlcardinal9Being able to grow it is a stretch, it will cost thousands of dollars in fees, licenses, insurance etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by SonsOfLiberty
Taxes are a joke no matter what gets taxed the money never gets used for legitimate reasons only for politicians pet projects or to line their own pockets. You will never see a positive benefit for states from tax dollars the money will disapear and the government will say the money is going back in the system to pay treatment costs and medical bills for DRUG ABUSERS
You will need a license to sell it and you will need a license to buy it along with a proof of purchase, not having a license or proof of purchase is going to be a FELONY. Also even if the federal government does legalize it places of employment will still drug test and could even use past purchases or a license to purchase weed which will be a public record against you and not hire you.
And the cost will be SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER, legalizing marijuana is a REAL easy way for the government to actually BAN it completely through taxation!
I don't care!
They won't ban it cause people will buy it! They do with cigs and beer...
I don't care about taxes to grow it either, cause now it = jail time....
Lets start here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoK6NztH3eQ
Just watch "The Union The Business Of Getting High" either via YouTube or grabbing the movie from a local site, Netflix etc.....
And if this doesn't make you feal just a little ashamed or sad.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdxHoVBOSi8
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/20...scientists-at/Quote:
The economic and social costs of prohibition are also staggering. The government spends over $30 billion battling cannabis each year, yet despite this tremendous expenditure marijuana is as available as ever, with 89 percent of high school seniors reporting last year that it was fairly easy or very easy to obtain. It is not surprising then that 734,000 people were arrested on marijuana-related charges in 2000, 88 percent for simple possession. Such enforcement produces more harm than it prevents. It criminalizes large numbers of otherwise law-abiding people who have in no way impinged upon the liberties of others. Furthermore, it disproportionately affects America’s youth and minority communities, and the harm done to their futures far outweighs the harm of marijuana itself.
More stuff, sorry :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zRJrH1KWHg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpwROHvkgvE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_dcBPb9uvY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdFAMuup5zU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqTgs1rzeQk
PLEASE ACTUALLY WATCH SOME OF THOSE BEFORE YOU COMMENT, I'M ALL FOR A GOOD DEBATE AND I'LL LOOK AT WHAT YOU POST, BUT PLEASE LOOK AT THOSE VIDEOS BEFORE YOU START THE DEABATE, THANKS!
this would be fantastic if the prohibition ended AND stayed so. me & my glass piece would be forever grateful. thx, a taxpayer.
DO NOT DO IT!It would ruin the flow of US tourist into the Netherlands! :P
It won't happen to many big corporations and governments profit and benefit from prohibition example alcohol industry, tobacco, big pharmaceutical, corrections, police, etc...
Slim to none of it getting overthrown or being passed? Pretty sure Obama's views on Cannabis legalisation is pretty bad. If he does change views it could change his political persona in a negative way. Labor here (rightfully so) have a negative persona for bending over backwards against the Unions.Quote:
Originally Posted by stlcardinal9Chances are slim to none, the president can veto a bill only if it doesnt get a super majority vote in the house and senate, which means it would have to get 75% support in the house and the senate. To answer your question a bill/law can pass the U.S. house of representatives 435 members and the Senate 100 members but could be vetoed by the President 1 member! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by iLOVENZB
If the bill is indeed passed, I guess it's only a mater of time before neighbouring countries adopt. I never thought I would say this but; the possibilities on the tax made are endless. A logical way to get out of a deficit without giving dole bludgers $900 of tax payers money :P.
How would it? You douche bags have done it yourself :P.Quote:
Originally Posted by darkmawl
http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-...530-1fblu.html
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Originally Posted by technobob
Read up, Marlboro would love this, since they own the patent for Mary Jane cigs :P
Obama wanted to legalize it as well before congress shut him down.Quote:
Originally Posted by iLOVENZB
I thought he said he wasn't in favour:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODcqd5BhsnE
He wants to see drugs as a health problem (instead of criminal) though, which is fair coming from a diplomatic perspective. :shutup: As I said before, I'm not in the U.S. so don't really hear a lot about the trivial things that happen over there. Has his perspective changed? :unsure:
i'm not looking for any article, but he clearly wanted to legalize it for the sole purpose of boosting the economy. UPDATE on this thread: Bipartisan Legislation