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Suppose if i download a torrent from one tracker and another tracker has the same files so i download the torrent from that another site and add to my torrent client and its starts checking and founds that the files are already there.So essentially i'm uploading to a site from where i have not even downloaded.
P.S - Its not something i have done but asking before i do it since i heard many people do this way
Alot of sites have different rules. You must first diligently read the rules of whatever site your on.
And if that fails, ask. Doesn't hurt to ask.... most of the time.
This works differently depending on your client as well. In many clients, if the torrent has the same hash, it'll prompt you to "add the tracker" to the torrent, which is a bad idea, as it will look like you're cheating on both trackers.
To cross seed successfully without "cheating" you should first remove the torrent from your client, then download the torrent from the tracker you wish to cross seed at, as soon as the torrent gets added in your client, it will check the files and if all the files are there, you will start as a seeder but you won't be able to upload at the tracker which you originally downloaded the content from. If you keep it seeding on one tracker at a time, there's no harm with that but some trackers (which I don't know of) might not allow cross seeding so you'd better of reading the FAQ's first.Quote:
Originally Posted by ca_aok
Listen, BT is illegal, its piracy of data. So nothing is valid and everything is valid in BT. Some other person shares a fiel you downlaod it, and vice-versa. he whole thing is as simple as this.
What's with that Nazi signature you have? Are we a little jealous of Europeans or what?Quote:
Originally Posted by whatcdfan
Unfortunately only illegal things nowadays follow rules, Legal things are meant to broken.Quote:
Originally Posted by bijoy
But my point is how can this be allowed
as i said earlierQuote:
Originally Posted by absent_todayUnfortunately only illegal things nowadays follow rules, Legal things are meant to broken.Quote:
Originally Posted by bijoy
But my point is how can this be allowed
99.99% trackers do allow cross seeding
heck TL even endorses and encourages it
but different tackers may have different rules
SceneFZ is the only place in my mind that actually warns users against Cross Seeding
and it is not endorsed in BlackCats-Games(you are expected download the files from the tracker itself to seed)
That's called "cross-seeding", and most sites allow it. If you search Google for "Seed The Same Files To Multiple Trackers in uTorrent" with the quotes, you'll find a nice guide explaining how it's done. However, there are some things you should keep in mind:Quote:
Originally Posted by absent_today
- Do not add more than one tracker URL to the same torrent as a way to seed it on more than one place.
- If uTorrent says the torrent is already in the list and asks you to "load the trackers from it", do not do that.
Many people have been banned for doing one of the things above, because as ca_aok said, to the tracker it looks like cheating. But nothing wrong will happen to you if you follow those tips.
I was pretty surprised when I tried to cross-seed a release there and the tracker told me something like "seeding a torrent downloaded elsewhere is FORBIDDEN!".Quote:
Originally Posted by funkysourav
eh? what happened to running upload of the same downloaded files to different trackers from two utorrent instances? Thus -no cheating.Quote:
To cross seed successfully without "cheating" you should first remove the torrent from your client
True, but if the info_hash isn't the same you can save yourself the hassle of running two uTorrents.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hypatia
Most likely the hash won't be the same because of the passkey.
That part of the .torrent file isn't taken into account when calculating the hash. You can check it out yourself - take one you already have running in your client, edit the announce URL with BEncode Editor, save it and try to load it. You'll still be told it's already there.Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheBasement
I think you're right. I haven't cross seeded in a very long time. When I did I was using kTorrent and never had any torrent merging issues until I tried uTorrent in a wine environment. That was the first time I saw what you said about, "load the trackers from it". So I just renamed the torrent file at the end with something relevant, like 'IPT' or 'SCC'
at pedros you can seed only the stuff that you dl'ded from thereQuote:
Originally Posted by Hypatia
in the case of torrentleech, they tell you to do it and how it's done - it's a good way to 'save your ratio'. but it would lose all validity if you use it for some power-struggling habit I think, because a healthy ratio should be just natural (after the initial kid-in-a-candy-store-syndrome experience of joining some trackers that is)
If too many people cross-seed, it becomes harder for those who don't to keep a good ratio - the cross-seeders can "steal files" from a tracker they have good stats on, then get all the extra upload on the other site for free.Quote:
Originally Posted by CQ1ST
If everyone cross-seeded, there'd be no point on running a tracker.
so true
Aren't a lot of these scene trackers just duplicates of each other anyway?Quote:
Originally Posted by anon-sbi
You're forgetting about the packs and community! :PQuote:
Originally Posted by mjmacky
FST is the only community Ineedwant atm :happy:
This is a good way to recover ratio if you have two tracker with the same release. :happy:
[QUOTE=funkysourav;3593121]Not true. You can seed anything you got else where at blackcats....what you cant do is add multiple announce URLs to the same torrent.Quote:
Originally Posted by absent_today
I think he might have confused it with partial seeding, which as far as I know is only allowed for packs on BCG.
I agree for the most part as I haven't seen much good conversations going on at some of the sites I'm currently a member of - all except thebox.bz of course, they have some interesting stuff going on most daysQuote:
Originally Posted by mjmacky