Article: BitTorrent Crackdown Center Prepares to Punish Pirates

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Don't they already track people on public torrent sites anyways? I know HBO and NBC have been pretty aggressive about sending DMCAs to people downloading from public trackers.

What I Don't Like Is The $35 Filing Fee.

What If Your Providing A Service Like Tor & Someone Uses It To Download Something, You Then Get Flagged. You Have To Pay To Clear Your Name. You Should Be Able To Provide That Service Without Having To Worry About Your ISP Cutting You Off.

Not That I Am In The US Nor Do I Have To Worry About This Yet.

I can see increase in private trackers and proxy, and encryption.

thats why we love tpb all of torren trackers need to transfer to eu or ru hk servers

How do they know which file you are transferring? Would renaming these files make them undetectable? Or do they look inside the files? Cuz it couldn't be that hard to make a tracker which lists files properly but has a different name connected to the .torrent correct?
cheers

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How do they know which file you are transferring? Would renaming these files make them undetectable? Or do they look inside the files? Cuz it couldn't be that hard to make a tracker which lists files properly but has a different name connected to the .torrent correct?
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No, that wouldn't work. There are hashes on each file being shared, and that is what identifies the parts you have. The names really don't mean that much since the Industries essentially get on the trackers and download particular files that they want to see some money for. These tend to be big-name bombs that are deeply in the hole in terms of profit. These "agencies" then send out multitudes of letters to ISPs that are known by the IP addresses that show up in BT clients. Those (so far) dumb enough to reply get entangled in proving their innocence or paying a "small fee" to make their "legal troubles" go away. It's a huge scam, and now it seems EVERYONE who gets a letter will have to pay a minimum of $35 to prove their innocence.

Hell of a fucking scam- either you pay a large amount, or you pay $35 to clear your name. Either way, they get 2X the cost of a DVD for every letter sent out. :frusty:

I'm not trying to get off topic here but , torrenting/downloading is really the only reliable way to see the media that you only want to see once.

For instance I've had accounts with netflix and blockbuster and they are quite unreliable at times. Let's say you want to see a tv series. Well they will have the series for rent but , two of the discs are unqueueable because they don't have disk 3 and 5 of a six disc set.

The legit services are so shitty and they wonder why torrents are so popular. WAKE UP MPAA!! It's because they offer a better service!!

I've gone the legit route and it's a pain in the fucking ass half the time. You spend money and don't get what you want.
Or you can torrent and get exactly what you want for free.

It's you own fault things are the way they are.

I'd pay money for non-DRM torrents rather than get discs in the mail for free, trueness.

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I'd pay money for non-DRM torrents rather than get discs in the mail for free, trueness.

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How much you offerin'? :shifty:

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I'd pay money for non-DRM torrents rather than get discs in the mail for free, trueness.

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How much you offerin'? :shifty:

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Dollar an episode

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It's a huge scam, and now it seems EVERYONE who gets a letter will have to pay a minimum of $35 to prove their innocence.

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I'm not getting that at all.

You can choose to clear your name, if you wish and it will cost $35, but there is no point. You get a further five warnings before your IP can take measures like traffic shaping or disconnections. Measures that many ISPs already commonly undertake if they detect torrent traffic.

On the face of it, this is a good thing for US torrenteers.

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On the face of it, this is a good thing for US torrenteers.

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Look at the notorious scumbags who each have a hand in this. It is a moneymaker, and a HUGE one at that. The ISPs have thus far been the wall standing between the downloaders and the money-seeking Industries. Now they will be working TOGETHER. Bad. Bad. Bad.

If the ISPs wanted to end piracy all they have to do is start charging by actual usage. Charge so much per month per mb and that'd kill off all piracy. Since no pirates would most likely get a smaller bill they'd love it

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On the face of it, this is a good thing for US torrenteers.

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Look at the notorious scumbags who each have a hand in this. It is a moneymaker, and a HUGE one at that. The ISPs have thus far been the wall standing between the downloaders and the money-seeking Industries. Now they will be working TOGETHER. Bad. Bad. Bad.

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The glass is half full, mbm :happy:

Internet service providers are a powerful bunch and collectively employ more people, I'm talking American stats because this isn't affecting the UK or other places that don't matter so much, than the entire movie industry. They also have the free trade ethos firmly behind them, which is something I hear you guise take completely seriously. If a judge considers that a restriction of trade has been put on any particular ISP, then that restriction will be repealed. And quickly.

This is a compromise whereupon the ISPs have said to the representatives of the movie industry that they will pay lip-service to them in a public way which will scare a lot of individuals into renouncing piracy, but the reality is that the measures they are prepared to take are less punative than the ones already in place.

This works especially well for the ISPs too, because while their customers clamoured to switch after receiving a solitary warning letter, now it will be widely known that they can receive up to SIX of them before it becomes an issue.

In summary; this is absolutely fine if you're not a reactionary.

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In summary; this is absolutely fine if you're not a reactionary.

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I'm not being reactionary, I'm just saying, "Burn them to the ground and eat their children before they start doing this". That's all. :idunno:

I have to ask.
If I am just using a webui (rutorrent) for my seedbox and do not have a torrent client installed on my pc will this monitoring bullshit pick up the webui or do you actually have to be running utorrent ect. on you pc through your home connection to get monitored. As far as the downloading via ftp from the seedbox I would assume that would be under the radar. Let me hear what you think.

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In summary; this is absolutely fine if you're not a reactionary.

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I'm not being reactionary, I'm just saying, "Burn them to the ground and eat their children before they start doing this". That's all. :idunno:

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Can I borrow them before they're eaten?

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I have to ask.
If I am just using a webui (rutorrent) for my seedbox and do not have a torrent client installed on my pc will this monitoring bullshit pick up the webui or do you actually have to be running utorrent ect. on you pc through your home connection to get monitored. As far as the downloading via ftp from the seedbox I would assume that would be under the radar. Let me hear what you think.

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Running your webui on your PC will not directly get you in any trouble.

You only can be prosecuted in the US for SHARING ("uploading"). Downloading is fine. The servers of your seedbox are doing the sharing. If the courts go after your seedbox server, they (the seedbox company) give you up & provide facts of a contract between you and them for seedboxing, only then can you possibly get in trouble. Having said that, I have not heard of any reports of such (specific) cases executed anywhere in the world.

Safer to have a non-USA box and seedbox company nowadays.

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I have to ask.
If I am just using a webui (rutorrent) for my seedbox and do not have a torrent client installed on my pc will this monitoring bullshit pick up the webui or do you actually have to be running utorrent ect. on you pc through your home connection to get monitored. As far as the downloading via ftp from the seedbox I would assume that would be under the radar. Let me hear what you think.

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Yeah you will be under the radar for whatever they are monitoring. I do not think anything more is necessary but if you want to take if a few steps further... Use HTTPs for webui if you are not already and most important don't use FTP, use FTPS or something encrypted to get the file from the server to yourself. Again I don't think it is necessary to go that far but if you are trying to stop all monitoring that should pretty much do it.

Also to consider is how you are getting the torrent files in the first place. Proxy through your seedbox if you can to browse the sites, use HTTPs when possible bla bla.

again I think you have already covered all the bases that matter, just trying to see how to turn the tin foil hat in to a tinfoil helmet.

Just another example of how big corporations are trying to stick it to the rest of us.