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is it safe or is it gonna explode on my face? I LOVE MY COMPUTER! :D
My computer has been on for almost two years now.
same same same. hasnt blown p yet
i just think it would use too much electricity, and it's not like i have something to dl 24/7. i should. would be nice. everyone else does, but i don't want the elec bill to go crazy
yes it would waste electro if you have like 7 fans installed into your computer... <_< and CRT monitors... :DQuote:
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@18 November 2003 - 04:34
i just think it would use too much electricity, and it's not like i have something to dl 24/7. i should. would be nice. everyone else does, but i don't want the elec bill to go crazy
yes it would waste electro if you have like 7 fans installed into your computer... <_< and CRT monitors... :D [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez+17 November 2003 - 23:37--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (james_bond_rulez @ 17 November 2003 - 23:37)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@18 November 2003 - 04:34
i just think it would use too much electricity, and it's not like i have something to dl 24/7. i should. would be nice. everyone else does, but i don't want the elec bill to go crazy
i turn my crt off when i leave it on overnight. but yea, i have, umm... 3 case fans, 2 psu fans, 2 hd cooler fans, 1 hsf, and 1 tiny hd fan for my hd tray. that's 9 fans total! wow. yea. is there a way to check how much elec my pc is using total?
I keep mine on 24/7,
I don't really think you PC use enough electricity to worry about your bill, I have two PCs, the main one I keep on all the time, but I used to keep both on all the time.
The electric bill is virtually the same now as it was when I kept both PCs on, so I don't think you have to worry about crazy electric bills, just because of your PC.
I leave mine on all the time. As for power consumption issue, look into the power management systems that are built into your PC.
and is that the thingy in control panel?Quote:
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@17 November 2003 - 23:48
I leave mine on all the time. As for power consumption issue, look into the power management systems that are built into your PC.
and is that the thingy in control panel? [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+18 November 2003 - 05:15--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 18 November 2003 - 05:15)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Virtualbody1234@17 November 2003 - 23:48
I leave mine on all the time. As for power consumption issue, look into the power management systems that are built into your PC.
i think its in the desktop properties and click on screensaver TAB button and there's a power button :)
yea, thats also in the control panel.
anyways, i have a q:
i put my pc on standby, and all my fans and leds and "carnival ride" is still going. and the power light on the front of my case is still on. wtf? and does standby really save half of the energy? if it does, y r all my fans and stuff on?
Average use = 300 watts. Equivalent to 3 regular lightbulbs.
$0.07 avg per kilowatt/hour
1000 / 300 = 3.33
$0.07 / 3.33 = $0.021 per hour.
x 24 hours = $0.50
x 30 days = $12.11
x12 months = $145.32 per year
Approximately ;)
Here's My uptime:
http://www.uploadit.org/files2/181103-uptime.png
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I leave mine on all the time aswell,I read somewhere that it is better for the harddrive not to turn it on and off to often, that it is better to just leave it on continously :)
BOT,
Where are you getting that information? What program is that?
28 boots and seven crashes?
can someone please answer my stand-by question?Quote:
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@18 November 2003 - 00:52
yea, thats also in the control panel.
anyways, i have a q:
i put my pc on standby, and all my fans and leds and "carnival ride" is still going. and the power light on the front of my case is still on. wtf? and does standby really save half of the energy? if it does, y r all my fans and stuff on?
Unless you have SCSI disks you should at least not use your PC as a server. IDE disks aren't meant to be used 24/7. They will crash. I read somewhere that IDE HDD manufacturers only recommend using their IDE HDDs up to 13 hours per day, some even less than that (8 hours per day, 5 days a week).
You can find how long your computer is on by the task manager
System Idle Process
CPU TIME:
Then Hours:Minutes:Seconds
Mine is at: 97:57:40
Longest would be well over 200 or 300 hours
ide's arent mean to be on 24/7? dude u better get a source link for this....
COMPUTERS are meant to be ON not OFF, the hardware made for computers is meant for that as well....
wat? where is this?Quote:
Originally posted by Acecool@18 November 2003 - 13:40
You can find how long your computer is on by the task manager
System Idle Process
CPU TIME:
Then Hours:Minutes:Seconds
Mine is at: 97:57:40
Longest would be well over 200 or 300 hours
hehehehe your poeples computer will not explode unless you have:
?A; to hot of a computer.
B: a passive h20 sys will will reult in A over long periods of time
C: it is too loud and you brake it also possibly resulting in a when non of your fans work... :P
seriosly poeple i have been running my server comp (not supposed to be a server) for over 4 years now, comps can be on as long as you want them too, (well with exception that my light diodes will burn out after 1,000,000 hours... :lol: )
hehehehehehe :P
No. Computers are meant to be ON whenever we use them.Quote:
ide's arent mean to be on 24/7? dude u better get a source link for this....
COMPUTERS are meant to be ON not OFF, the hardware made for computers is meant for that as well....
Anyway, here's the link if you want to read the story: http://www.tecchannel.com/storage/basics/40/
wow i wonder what kind of joint was that guy smokin.... :lol:
it says 12% of the users have experienced problems with leavin the puter 24-7....Quote:
The publication of the power-on hours has resulted in certain - unjustified - uncertainty
12% which could be assumed as a a 7 or 8% of bad drives (not good brands) and the other 5 or 4% as a power surge failure....resulting in damaging the hard drive...
this are specific cases....that article is mistaken cuz you cant generalize it cuz IBM is giving their drives its own lifetime (333 hours monthly....)
By doing this, IBM is admitting that their hard drives were made with a lousy effort on creating those drives...or puttin them on their computers....
bottom line: COMPUTERS ARE MADE TO BE ON....so what if u want to download things while not being in your computer? does every computer have a sensor to see if you're in front of the computer? the computer is using its CPU and its RAM....thus its being USED...no matter wether humans are in front of it or not...Quote:
No. Computers are meant to be ON whenever we use them.
ur fans should stop running and ur light is supposed 2 stay and it can turn orange or it could be green and flashingQuote:
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@18 November 2003 - 05:52
yea, thats also in the control panel.
anyways, i have a q:
i put my pc on standby, and all my fans and leds and "carnival ride" is still going. and the power light on the front of my case is still on. wtf? and does standby really save half of the energy? if it does, y r all my fans and stuff on?
hd's and other puter parts get their damage when u turn a puter ON, not when u leave it on....the electricity that surges throught them from powering it on is what may hurt them, not the steady flow of current while they're on.
duh and stuff.
:unsure: uh oh so should i stop? :unsure:Quote:
Originally posted by kurtsl0an@19 November 2003 - 01:45
hd's and other puter parts get their damage when u turn a puter ON, not when u leave it on....the electricity that surges throught them from powering it on is what may hurt them, not the steady flow of current while they're on.
duh and stuff.
:unsure: uh oh so should i stop? :unsure: [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by Monkeee+18 November 2003 - 21:27--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Monkeee @ 18 November 2003 - 21:27)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-kurtsl0an@19 November 2003 - 01:45
hd's and other puter parts get their damage when u turn a puter ON, not when u leave it on....the electricity that surges throught them from powering it on is what may hurt them, not the steady flow of current while they're on.
duh and stuff.
if u don't have anything to dl, then turn it off
So you've done IDE HDD research now. Could you provide a link to your own research so the rest of us can read it. Oh wait, you just made that up.Quote:
12% which could be assumed as a a 7 or 8% of bad drives (not good brands) and the other 5 or 4% as a power surge failure....resulting in damaging the hard drive...
You don't get it. SCSI drives are their best drives. They're expensive, reliable, and fast because practically only companies buy them and put them in servers. IDE HDD drives on the other hand are used by people at home, people at work, and cheap web hosts. Most people don't leave their computers on 24/7 365 days a year and thus the manufacturers don't need to make IDE HDDs that can be on 24/7 365 days a year. That's evolution for ya.Quote:
this are specific cases....that article is mistaken cuz you cant generalize it cuz IBM is giving their drives its own lifetime (333 hours monthly....)
But since you insist on being right, do an experiment. Test 5 SCSI drives and 5 IDE drives. Leave them running (simulate a file server) and see which one crashes last. You know that SCSI drives will crash much later than the IDE drives simply because they're designed to be on 24/7 365 days a year.
damn....how come i've had 2 replace many scsi drives (luckily hot swappable w/raid 5) for myself and some of my clients servers?Quote:
Originally posted by random nut@19 November 2003 - 04:33
You know that SCSI drives will crash much later than the IDE drives simply because they're designed to be on 24/7 365 days a year.
i will not agree that scsi is more stable than ide....scsi is faster and allows you to add more channels than ide...
i know this isn't my argument, so sorry for cuttin in - :huh: :blink:
random nut is absolutly right!Quote:
Originally posted by random nut@18 November 2003 - 22:33
So you've done IDE HDD research now. Could you provide a link to your own research so the rest of us can read it. Oh wait, you just made that up.Quote:
12% which could be assumed as a a 7 or 8% of bad drives (not good brands) and the other 5 or 4% as a power surge failure....resulting in damaging the hard drive...
You don't get it. SCSI drives are their best drives. They're expensive, reliable, and fast because practically only companies buy them and put them in servers. IDE HDD drives on the other hand are used by people at home, people at work, and cheap web hosts. Most people don't leave their computers on 24/7 365 days a year and thus the manufacturers don't need to make IDE HDDs that can be on 24/7 365 days a year. That's evolution for ya.Quote:
this are specific cases....that article is mistaken cuz you cant generalize it cuz IBM is giving their drives its own lifetime (333 hours monthly....)
But since you insist on being right, do an experiment. Test 5 SCSI drives and 5 IDE drives. Leave them running (simulate a file server) and see which one crashes last. You know that SCSI drives will crash much later than the IDE drives simply because they're designed to be on 24/7 365 days a year.
ATA/IDE drives are not designed for this kind of stress only SCSI drives have these durable components in them that make them so darn tough. The only ATA/IDE drive that comes even close to SCSI performance and quality is the Raptor from Western Digital, which is the only drive that offers SCSI-like technologies in an ATA/IDE drive.
I have read dozens of studies that show that IDE/ATA drives have a much, much higer failure rate than SCSI drives, unfortunetly I can not quote any sources but I am sure you guys will find them somewhere, if you search for it.
And to those of you who leave the PC running 24/7 to download stuff, I really hope you have a SCSI/Raptor drive or at least a back-up of all your files. One day when you sit in front of your PC and write a letter or something like that and your drive crashes, even if it is just 1 year old or so, and you loose all your files because of a disk head crash or bad clusters all over the drive, you will know the differance/importance!
BTW: I use an ATA/IDE drive for almost 24 hours a day but I do a weekly disk-to-disk backup of all my files on an identical drive that is mostly off, wrapped in anti-static wrap and locked up in a fireproof box, which sits in another room. Call me paranoid but I never lost a single byte of data! :D
You must have some really exotic porn.Quote:
Originally posted by MadDog-2000@18 November 2003 - 21:56
BTW: I use an ATA/IDE drive for almost 24 hours a day but I do a weekly disk-to-disk backup of all my files on an identical drive that is mostly off, wrapped in anti-static wrap and locked up in a fireproof box, which sits in another room. Call me paranoid but I never lost a single byte of data! :D
You must have some really exotic porn. [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by clocker+19 November 2003 - 05:11--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 19 November 2003 - 05:11)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-MadDog-2000@18 November 2003 - 21:56
BTW: I use an ATA/IDE drive for almost 24 hours a day but I do a weekly disk-to-disk backup of all my files on an identical drive that is mostly off, wrapped in anti-static wrap and locked up in a fireproof box, which sits in another room. Call me paranoid but I never lost a single byte of data! :D
i assumed that was a joke? was i wrong? :huh: :blink:
i leave mine on dayz at end, only turn it off if it isnt used, and thats hardly ever the case :)... i use a 2nd harddrive as backup as well, and i burn all the good quality stuff (movies, games, mp3's) on CD... got quite a collection B)...
I turn my PC off and pull the plug from the socket...we have a lot of thunder storms where I live...I know quite a few people that have had thier PCs Fried resulting from lightning making contact with the ground and running up the earth stake.
Are you in Florida?Quote:
Originally posted by Cowboy Bob@19 November 2003 - 08:42
I turn my PC off and pull the plug from the socket...we have a lot of thunder storms where I live...I know quite a few people that have had thier PCs Fried resulting from lightning making contact with the ground and running up the earth stake.
what program is thatQuote:
Originally posted by [B][O][T]@18 November 2003 - 10:15
Here's My uptime:
http://www.uploadit.org/files2/181103-uptime.png
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any link :P
You can download it from here (This is a freeware).
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tanx BOT ;)
i leave mine on 24-7 also unless thunder storms are coming
any problems with your COMP? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by nanotek@19 November 2003 - 18:20
i leave mine on 24-7 also unless thunder storms are coming