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Can someone explain to me why that bre-ish show, Outcasts, got canceled?:angry:
I friggin' loved that show!
I really do hate how short bre-ish show seasons are tho'.
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Can someone explain to me why that bre-ish show, Outcasts, got canceled?:angry:
I friggin' loved that show!
I really do hate how short bre-ish show seasons are tho'.
What the fuck is bre-ish and why don't you make a nuisance of yourself in the lounge any more. I know you miss me as much as I miss you <3
The most recent show I was gutted about getting cancelled was Drive. It had everything; Captain Mal Reynolds, cars and a hot, slutty daughter.
It hooked me from the very start as hints were dropped about the reasons behind the race being sinister and the main five or six characters were instantly likeable/evil and their back stories seemed pretty intriguing.
Jericho and The 4400 deserve honourable mentions, too.
At least Jericho was (sloppingly) wrapped up. The 4400 got a little sloppy altogether.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
:notesTVDriveforconsumption:
How many seasons did Drive run?
Oh snap, as I'm writing this I remember the show had Nathan from Firefly. I never watched it so I was part of the problem of it going away.
Will download.....:happy:
Oh and....wadup, kanker!
First episode of Drive was good but the network wasn't behind the show and wanted something different so it went precariously all-over the place downhill from that. Around that time Nathan Fillion actually had the title "series killer " attached to his name btw.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
Jericho was another case of not enough support but this time in the rating so the producers tinkered it into the resemblance of a heaping pile of non-nonsensical soap opera-ish shite by the end.
Never watched The 4400 and probably never will as I am now afraid that it may involve ghey teen vampires and diaries.
I dunno about Drive but you are completely wrong about everything else besides the bad ratings.It was brought back due to the fans and had to be wrapped up quickly. The 4400 was NOTHING like you described. It was a rip-off of the Rising Stars comic (which was fantastic).Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787First episode of Drive was good but the network wasn't behind the show and wanted something different so it went precariously all-over the place downhill from that. Around that time Nathan Fillion actually had the title "series killer " attached to his name btw.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
Jericho was another case of not enough support but this time in the rating so the producers tinkered it into the resemblance of a heaping pile of non-nonsensical soap opera-ish shite by the end.
Never watched The 4400 and probably never will as I am now afraid that it may involve ghey teen vampires and diaries.
Really? It's probably my 2nd favorite cancelled show of all time, following Firefly. I believe I waited 2 years for the next season to come before looking up the old, but sad news on the internet and thinking, "what the fuck?".Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
Hai :happy:Quote:
Originally Posted by BusymanAt least Jericho was (sloppingly) wrapped up. The 4400 got a little sloppy altogether.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
:notesTVDriveforconsumption:
How many seasons did Drive run?
Oh snap, as I'm writing this I remember the show had Nathan from Firefly. I never watched it so I was part of the problem of it going away.
Will download.....:happy:
Oh and....wadup, kanker!
I wouldn't download if I were you. It only has five or six episodes and I still haven't quite got over the rage I felt when I found out that it wasn't coming back.
Also, great remembering that Nathan Fillion was in it after I'd mentioned that it had Captain Mal Reynolds.
And, yeah, The 4400 went a bit crappy toward the end but it was still compelling.
Possibly because of the investiture I already had in the characters, though.
Ha yeah that is quite weird I remembered Nate yet (still) don't remember the Caps name from Firefly and Serenity. D...amn. I am quite shit with names but remembers faces like a mofo. Drive was the first time I saw him in TV (the preview, at least) since Firefly.Quote:
Originally Posted by mankerHai :happy:Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
I wouldn't download if I were you. It only has five or six episodes and I still haven't quite got over the rage I felt when I found out that it wasn't coming back.
Also, great remembering that Nathan Fillion was in it after I'd mentioned that it had Captain Mal Reynolds.
And, yeah, The 4400 went a bit crappy toward the end but it was still compelling.
Possibly because of the investiture I already had in the characters, though.
Hey I watched Firefly (came on back-to-back) with John Doe so give me a cookie for that. People ignored them along with Earth 2 and Space Above an Beyond (also back-to-back). We just can't get good sci-fi to stay on anymore.:angry:
Anyway, did Drive end shittely where it felt like "the middle"?
I hate when shows end on cliffhangers or mysteries like Outcasts and John Doe.
The 4400 was fantastic but when baby girl grew up in like a week, it started to go downhill. I still wish they'd make a movie or TV series out of Rising Stars. Heroes and The 4400 were good but RS was more epic (and certainly more original).
I just realized my 2 favorite cancelled shows feature Summer Glau. It would have been 3 if I actually liked that Terminator series.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
Hey I liked that show!:angry:Quote:
Originally Posted by mjmackyI just realized my 2 favorite cancelled shows feature Summer Glau. It would have been 3 if I actually liked that Terminator series.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
She wasn't as prominent in The 4400, I thought. I remember her in Alphas too.
I watched it thinking, "I'm obviously too old for this show".Quote:
Originally Posted by BusymanHey I liked that show!:angry:Quote:
Originally Posted by mjmacky
She wasn't as prominent in The 4400, I thought. I remember her in Alphas too.
Maybe I give scifi shows a lot of rope. Right now I'm watching Continuum.Quote:
Originally Posted by mjmackyI watched it thinking, "I'm obviously too old for this show".Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
I'm not sure what Rising Stars is. A comic, is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by BusymanHa yeah that is quite weird I remembered Nate yet (still) don't remember the Caps name from Firefly and Serenity. D...amn. I am quite shit with names but remembers faces like a mofo. Drive was the first time I saw him in TV (the preview, at least) since Firefly.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
Hey I watched Firefly (came on back-to-back) with John Doe so give me a cookie for that. People ignored them along with Earth 2 and Space Above an Beyond (also back-to-back). We just can't get good sci-fi to stay on anymore.:angry:
Anyway, did Drive end shittely where it felt like "the middle"?
I hate when shows end on cliffhangers or mysteries like Outcasts and John Doe.
The 4400 was fantastic but when baby girl grew up in like a week, it started to go downhill. I still wish they'd make a movie or TV series out of Rising Stars. Heroes and The 4400 were good but RS was more epic (and certainly more original).
Drive ended more at the start than in the middle and left a load of stuff unanswered, it might be that it's worth a watch just for curiosity but I'd bet you'd be left with more negative feelings than positive ones. Also, now I come to think about it, Idol is right when he says about it getting a little disjointed - but I always had the feeling it was just about to explode into something awesome.
I watched John Doe, but I can barely remember it. I know Michael's brother from Prison Break was the lead and that I liked it. But I also remember it feeling a little dated. Perhaps it was and I downloaded it several years after it was made, idk.
I think it's commonly agreed that Heroes went to complete shite after the first series, btw. I tried so hard to like it, too.
Well it's three for me because I liked Terminator, as well. It was the first show I watched in HD when I got it set up, and the visual experience struck me as being really rather good.Quote:
Originally Posted by mjmackyI just realized my 2 favorite cancelled shows feature Summer Glau. It would have been 3 if I actually liked that Terminator series.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
I may have got overly attached to it due to that.
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I don't understand how you could possibly be watching all the same stuff as me as I obviously have good taste and you don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
Anyway John Doe was a great premise that lacked anything to really follow it up.
Probably should have known it was going to be a rough ride when coming out so soon after The Bourne Identity the producers thought it was still a good idea to blatantly rip-off so many key points .
Agreed. The show started off mysterious and then it seemed the writers just right fecked off.Quote:
Originally Posted by mankerI'm not sure what Rising Stars is. A comic, is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
Drive ended more at the start than in the middle and left a load of stuff unanswered, it might be that it's worth a watch just for curiosity but I'd bet you'd be left with more negative feelings than positive ones. Also, now I come to think about it, Idol is right when he says about it getting a little disjointed - but I always had the feeling it was just about to explode into something awesome.
I watched John Doe, but I can barely remember it. I know Michael's brother from Prison Break was the lead and that I liked it. But I also remember it feeling a little dated. Perhaps it was and I downloaded it several years after it was made, idk.
I think it's commonly agreed that Heroes went to complete shite after the first series, btw. I tried so hard to like it, too.
John Doe was cool cuz it you wondered why he knew everything, where was he from, why'd wake up buck naked in the beginning, and what were the motivations behind the group killing people. The idea of that and another scifi show shown back-to-back on primetime network TV is completely obliterated nowadays. The other time I can remember before that was the aforementioned Earth 2 and Space Above and Beyond and maybe a Star Trek show (Voyager I think) and 7 Days.
Rising Stars started off with kids conceived the night a comet flew over Pederson, (Ohio?), and many of those kids (called Specials) were shown to have powers. While the government figures out what to do with them, they put them in camp (with counselors and all). All the kids didn't demonstrate powers but were put together anyway. I remember there was one kid that demonstrated no powers would get pulled out late at night from his bunk bed over and over by a counselor until one night he turned to the counselor and said "BURN!". We then found out what his power was.
As teenagers, one chubby boy could fly....but only 6 feet off the ground. He'd get teased about not being able to go higher than than cuz of his fatass over and over. He finally got past 6 feet, then 20, then 40, and they never saw him again. No more teasing.
Another storyline when everyone was older was there was a fat fella that could not die. He lived in squalor and had no girlfriend. He found work doing ads for an electric company where he'd pick up live wires and get shocked on TV yet still remained friendless and alone. Well one day the man that couldn't die was found dead. He had a plastic bag over head. Someone knew that he still needed air. That kicked off the storyline where someone was killing off all the Specials and they knew the weakness of each one.:unsure:
Anyway Rising Stars was original and much deeper than The 4400 and Heroes and similarities were huge. RS was more epic since it started from childhood and chronicled the years after.
Wow really? That was only about 4 years ago. How long has GB had HD? I remember coming on here and people (not you) ragging on HD saying there wasn't much difference. I remarked that they probably don't have it.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
Now HD is ubiquitous and I bet those same people wouldn't go back to SD.:happy:
Which reminds me, Louie season 3 premiers on June 28th. Can you guess what else I read?Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
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Huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787I don't understand how you could possibly be watching all the same stuff as me as I obviously have good taste and you don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
Anyway John Doe was a great premise that lacked anything to really follow it up.
Probably should have known it was going to be a rough ride when coming out so soon after The Bourne Identity the producers thought it was still a good idea to blatantly rip-off so many key points .
John Doe ripped off notadamnthing. I mean if "guy doesn't know his past or who he is" is a rip-off then your qualifications for rip-offs are ultra low.
Bourne was an assassin/soldier.
John Doe was some guy with a weird maark that happened to know everything.
I mean if you wanna reach, Bourne is found floating in the water. Doe wakes up buck naked on an island. Duhhhh...alrighty then....rip-off?
John Doe and Firefly were rare scifi shows in primetime. Not many do well. Many are quality tho'. The problem is reality TV was ramping up then.
Since reality TV has been in full swing, we've had (in primetime network TV):
Fringe (one more season which'll make 5,has been on a Friday timeslot) MMK
Supernatural (I'm including scifi with the supernatural, going on season 8, has been on a Friday timeslot) WIN
Heroes (4 seasons) MMK
Firefly (1 season, had a movie) FAIL
John Doe (1 season) FAIL
Terminator Sarah Connor Chronicles (1.5 seasons) FAIL
Flash Forward (1 season, great show) FAIL
Threshold (half season) FAIL
Terra Nova (half season) FAIL
The Listener (half season in US) FAIL (still running elsewhere up to season 3)
and many more failures.
Scifi on primetime network TV has an uphill battle. It has to draw the casual viewer and can't depend on scifi buffs like me. I was actually mad Threshold got canceled even tho' I couldn't recommend it to others. I see why it was canceled. It was very dark.:shifty:
Terriers.
Thank you, kind sir. I always wanted to check that out but I had forgot about it.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Busyman
I hope you are not an idiot in real life and in fact only play one on the internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
Bourne:Mysterious 30ish stranger with near super human abilities washes up on boat with no recollection of past finds himself pursued by shadowy agency.Premiered Summer 2002.
John Doe:Mysterious 30ish stranger with near super human abilities washes up on shore with no recollection of past finds himself pursued by shadowy agency.Premiered Fall 2002.
Other films/TV shows similar to that in the long history of films/TV :0
God what was I thinking.
Ah well now I remember it and I also, obviously, being male, liked the Bourne films, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787I don't understand how you could possibly be watching all the same stuff as me as I obviously have good taste and you don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
Anyway John Doe was a great premise that lacked anything to really follow it up.
Probably should have known it was going to be a rough ride when coming out so soon after The Bourne Identity the producers thought it was still a good idea to blatantly rip-off so many key points .
I'm pretty sure I watched it in 2009 so that explains why I found it dated if it came out shortly after the Bourne films.
The answer to how I watch all the same stuff is that I've read all your past posts and decided to DL the stuff as you mention because I want to fit in and you seem internet scary.
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Originally Posted by BusymanWow really? That was only about 4 years ago. How long has GB had HD? I remember coming on here and people (not you) ragging on HD saying there wasn't much difference. I remarked that they probably don't have it.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
Now HD is ubiquitous and I bet those same people wouldn't go back to SD.:happy:
Yeah I remember that, mostly because it was a recurring argument that happened every other day for a year.
It was mainly Cheese you were arguing with - and he didn't own a tv. Maybe he still doesn't. Altho' he has got a daughter now and we all know how important daytime tv is for making kids stfu.
As soon as I got the correct codecs and my PC hooked up to the big telly, I became an instant HD snob like wot you are :happy:
HD is p pointless if your screen is below, like, 40". And even above that, it doesn't do that much difference for a few more inches, IMO. True story.
As for shows that shouldn't have gotten cancelled, I'm gonna be a bit controversial here and say that The River should have gotten at least one more season (assuming netflix doesn't save it).
I've got a trained eye, now, and can spot a SD flick before I realise which show I'm watching.
You can't tell me I've downloaded five times the amount of data I actually needed to for the past four years.
And even if you did, I wouldn't listen as it's bunk.
Watevar. Get a proper screen and it'll totally be worth it :smilie4:
You only got involved in this thread so either me or you would mention your projector.
And, like, I don't even want one. It's not even as if it's anything good like what it would be if you had TiVo or an upscaler.
No I loved Firefly. I'm talking about it's failure commercially.Quote:
Probably how much you miss your boyfriend......Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787I hope you are not an idiot in real life and in fact only play one on the internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
Bourne:Mysterious 30ish stranger washes up on boat with no recollection of past finds himself pursued by shadowy agency.Premiered Summer 2002.
John Doe:Mysterious 30ish stranger with near super human abilities washes up on shore with no recollection of past finds himself pursued by shadowy agency.Premiered Fall 2002.
Other films/TV shows similar to that in the long history of films/TV :0
God what was I thinking.
Learn the diff between a similarity and a rip-off.
One, Bourne wasn't near super human. He was simply a kickass spy/assassin. John Doe was super human. He knew "everything"
Two, John Doe didn't wash up on shore
Three, well, there was 3 months in-between the release of Bourne and John Doe. Time to rip-off a movie?
All you saw was stranger with amnesia = rip-off.
Dumb. The stories are completely different. Similarity does not necessarily = rip-off.
Too late, I can't take it back now. You'll just have to live with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BusymanNo I loved Firefly. I'm talking about it's failure commercially.Quote:
Originally Posted by mjmacky
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Originally Posted by manker
And you have a silly habit of taking everything absolutely literally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
Anyway if you look I said key points not movie and nothing you have said dissuades me from that .
OK so John Doe didn't "wash ashore " he only speculates that he may have washed ashore and before that he doesn't fall into the water and get picked up suffering from amnesia by a fishing boat crewed by a bunch of people who aren't English speaking .
And then he doesn't proceed to display abilities "far in excess" of a normal person.
No wait yes he does.
Of course John Doe's premise predates the release of The Bourne Identity but aspects could easily have been revised in 3 months to mimic it.
Coincidences in Hollywood being as rare as ethics.
Btw I'm going to give you credit for not being stupid and only egotistical to the point of not being able to admit that you may be wrong.
That fact is, numbnuts, that the stories are completely different so calling it a rip-off is extreme.
Again, learn the difference between similarity and rip-off. You said shitall about key points. You called it a blatant rip-off.
Now you are even backtracking by reaching with "far in excess of a normal person". How about just saying Doe is a rip-off by "having a male in the starring role" to prove your point.
If John Doe's premise "of course" predates the release of Bourne howz about a little less talking and a little more STFU about it being a blatant rip-off since you obviously haven't the slightest clue wtf you are arguing anymore? :ermm:
I'm not backtracking I was trying to be more literal so that a person of your obviously limited understanding doesn't have to make any of those tricky supposition things.
Also like I said see original post re key points. See later posts for annotation of those.
If you like you can continue to rant incoherently now for all the good it's doing you.
You are doing a better job arguing about....nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
Plus you are backtracking if you say the premise predates Bourne yet Doe rips it off. Around we go.
Finding similarities then calling those similarities a rip-off shows you have the understanding of an imbecile.
Rip-offs go farther than your pedestrian findings.
I think this is what it was like for Idol (or anyone else) to watch me and Darthy argue about carbon-carbon bond "flexibility". I now submit my apologies, world.
As much as I'd like to agree, because you're a lovely lady for an American, it most certainly is not.Quote:
Originally Posted by mjmacky
Idol and Busy arguing made me lol a few times and is kind of interesting to see them disagree violently about something which they clearly agree upon.
By way of contrast, I wasn't even aware that you and Darthy were disagreeing about anything. It was just walls of text which after reading in their entirety, made me want to tear my modem apart like it was a mere telephone directory and set the wreckage ablaze with paper kindling and faggots.
Spoiler: Showdidn't really read them in their entirety, i skimmed over the first couple and the exposure to that level of banality invoked the avoid button in my brain.
Why is it so hard for you to understand that I am talking of a specific scene(s) and not overall premise ,storylines,character arches or the colour cerulean blue*?Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
Anyway as I seem to have been afforded the luxury of some class and so am not as quite into name calling as you I suggest we settle this by either Indian wrestling or camels at 20 paces.
Other than that, like Mary, I really no longer give a fuck.
*X Files reference from the episode Pusher which I'm fairly certain they stole from somewhere.
RiddleQuote:
Originally Posted by manker
What do Robert Pattinson and Darth Cicero have in common?
They are both more interesting when they're dead.
I don't know nor remember anything about either the Bourne movie or Bourne TV show, and I was grouping myself with others on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
P.S., on that note, it came down to the use of English, Darthy was being too strict about his interpretation of diction on an internet board.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
They ripped off the Bourne movie from the Bourne TV miniseries with Richard Chamberlain.Quote:
Originally Posted by mjmacky
They're very much alike except for the fact that one is good and one is utter shite.
Best one, in my opinion, is "Lie to me". I liked this show, it was different than all others existing right now.
I never watched it. A friend of mine loved it. Must get....Quote:
Originally Posted by redwhitevision